GM a Team Part 3 (Transactions) unsticky plz

[dunkonu21]

I'd like to veto the Washington and Knicks deal...I don't see how that helps Washington

[revprodeji]

You do not veto if you do not like it. Klomp is a good gm and has a plan. Randomly vetoing trades that do not make sense to you is just being a jerk and proof the veto system is flawed.

[Raptors90102]

I'd like to veto the Washington and Knicks deal...I don't see how that helps Washington

I, too, have mixed feelings about this trade.

Arenas >> Ben Gordon + David Lee
Blache >>> Morris
Nick Young >>> Marubury

Not only does Washington pay heavily by taking on Marbury's contract, they give away 3 valuable pieces, one of which is a superstar talent, for Gordon and David Lee.

But if he thinks he is getting a good deal and that this trade will help him in the long run, than all the power to him

[revprodeji]

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So revprodeji, just sign an NBDL player and your trade is accepted.

I know you said NBDL, but Julius Hodge is in the NBL Australian league. He is a former nugget, but also a childhood friend of mine(any wolf poster can attest to this) so I would like to sign him. I can text him, I am sure he would accept.

[Klomp]

Guys, I am fine with the deal. I originally had wanted more, but the Knicks GM didn't want to go that far. I know I might have given up alot, but I think it is worth it.

I traded one starter and got 3 back (I think Lee is starter quality, even though he doesn't start on the Knicks. How many players in the league are there who can give you 10/10 off the bench.

Everyone says Marbury's contract is terrible. Yes its large, but it only runs until next season. Thats a big expiring for next year.

Plus it was already approved by league office anyways.

[bryant08]

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I know you said NBDL, but Julius Hodge is in the NBL Australian league. He is a former nugget, but also a childhood friend of mine(any wolf poster can attest to this) so I would like to sign him. I can text him, I am sure he would accept.

LMAO, k honestly, fine. But plz no other free agents outside the NBA, I know it's a double standard but rarely to we have an NBA player that actually knows a poster. Add him to your roster for the league minimum.

[bryant08]

Alright I think I'm going to extend the trade acceptance time, since people are coming in after trades have been approved and then trying to veto or argue the deals. About 18 hours should be enough to ensure that even if a deal occurs overnight, a poster can still come in the next day and veto it.

[Klomp]

So the Denver Washington Deal is officially approved?

[revprodeji]

Thanks. Sorry for being difficult. I will sign Hodge for the rest of the year at the vet min. I will likely sign some NBDL players 10 days later.

[#1knickfan]

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I, too, have mixed feelings about this trade.

Arenas >> Ben Gordon + David Lee
Blache >>> Morris
Nick Young >>> Marubury

Not only does Washington pay heavily by taking on Marbury's contract, they give away 3 valuable pieces, one of which is a superstar talent, for Gordon and David Lee.

But if he thinks he is getting a good deal and that this trade will help him in the long run, than all the power to him

well everyone can play the this guy is > than this guy game and you can put names in many different orders to make your point seem stronger than it might be in reality. It is also nice that you convieniently forget to mention they dump Etan Thomas' contract in this deal.

Lets get some facts straight here. Arenas has said he will opt out after this season and the significance of that should not be discounted. How can a team possibly get full value for a guy who has openly stated he is going to leave 12 million dollars on the table to try and make big money as a free agent. Secondly, Washington could resign him but it will cost them a lot of money and one has to question why they would want to keep a guy who is putting money above loyalty to the team. In aquiring Ben Gordon they get a guy who is capable of doing many of the same things as Arenas but at a fraction of the cost. Money is no object to the Knicks so they are more than willing too pay the extra cost for the extra production. Lets also not forget that they get a dirt cheap guy who can easily average a double double in David Lee who is also the consumate team player. They also dump long term salary and pick up a guy who along with Gordon should be more than capable of making up for Arenas lost production.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Thanks. Sorry for being difficult. I will sign Hodge for the rest of the year at the vet min. I will likely sign some NBDL players 10 days later.

I live in NC. I know about Julius Hodge and how he constantly got whipped by my Tar Heels.

He was a great college player though, I never thought he would make it in the NBA though. Getting shot really sucked. How is he doing? Does he think he'll make it back in the NBA?

[#1knickfan]

Guys, I am fine with the deal. I originally had wanted more, but the Knicks GM didn't want to go that far. I know I might have given up alot, but I think it is worth it.

I traded one starter and got 3 back (I think Lee is starter quality, even though he doesn't start on the Knicks. How many players in the league are there who can give you 10/10 off the bench.

Everyone says Marbury's contract is terrible. Yes its large, but it only runs until next season. Thats a big expiring for next year.

Plus it was already approved by league office anyways.

That is also a matter of perspective because I think this deal gives you more value than the deal your originally proposed. In the original deal you kept Young but got Balkman. I think most people would agree that Gordon is more valuable than Balkman and Young.

[Raptors90102]

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well everyone can play the this guy is > than this guy game and you can put names in many different orders to make your point seem stronger than it might be in reality. It is also nice that you convieniently forget to mention they dump Etan Thomas' contract in this deal.

Lets get some facts straight here. Arenas has said he will opt out after this season and the significance of that should not be discounted. How can a team possibly get full value for a guy who has openly stated he is going to leave 12 million dollars on the table to try and make big money as a free agent. Secondly, Washington could resign him but it will cost them a lot of money and one has to question why they would want to keep a guy who is putting money above loyalty to the team. In aquiring Ben Gordon they get a guy who is capable of doing many of the same things as Arenas but at a fraction of the cost. Money is no object to the Knicks so they are more than willing too pay the extra cost for the extra production. Lets also not forget that they get a dirt cheap guy who can easily average a double double in David Lee who is also the consumate team player. They also dump long term salary and pick up a guy who along with Gordon should be more than capable of making up for Arenas lost production.

Gordon won't come at fraction of the cost. He wanted a 70 mill contract past off-season. Thats not chump change. Clearly Arenas is going to get more than that but it still is significant money.

But I am not disputing the deal, thats why I said, if the Washintong GM is doing it, he clearly has a plan. And if thats what he wants to do, fair play to him.

I still feel, you got a lot more value than Wizards, but thats just me. The pieces he got in return clearly hold more value for him and thats the only thing that mattered.

[bryant08]

Guys, we don't need the discussion, the trade is already approved.

I have 3 moves I'd like to make (clydestudent if you could please accep/reject them):

The Toronto Raptors waive Darrick Martin (remains on cap)
The Toronto Raptors would like to sign Andre Barrett of the D-League to a 1 year, $798,328 contract. (3 years of experience in the NBA)
The Toronto Raptors would like to sign Marcus Williams of the D-League to a 1 year, $427,163 contract. (0 years of experience in the NBA)

[Raptors90102]

Guys, we don't need the discussion, the trade is already approved.

I have 3 moves I'd like to make (clydestudent if you could please accep/reject them):

The Toronto Raptors waive Darrick Martin (unguaranteed contract)
The Toronto Raptors would like to sign Andre Barrett of the D-League to a 1 year, $798,328 contract. (3 years of experience in the NBA, unguaranteed)
The Toronto Raptors would like to sign Marcus Williams of the D-League to a 1 year, $427,163 contract. (0 years of experience in the NBA, unguaranteed)

Isn't DMart's contract guaranteed now that the deadline to cut unguaranteed players has passed?

[bryant08]

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Isn't DMart's contract guaranteed now that the deadline to cut unguaranteed players has passed?

Correct, making that change now. Also all D-Leaguers must be signed to GUARANTEED contracts to ensure people aren't brought in and out quickly. (I totally forgot about that )

[clydestudent1276]

The Toronto Raptors waive Darrick Martin (unguaranteed contract)
The Toronto Raptors would like to sign Andre Barrett of the D-League to a 1 year, $798,328 contract. (3 years of experience in the NBA, unguaranteed)
The Toronto Raptors would like to sign Marcus Williams of the D-League to a 1 year, $427,163 contract. (0 years of experience in the NBA, unguaranteed)

Raptors waiving Darrick Martin is approved. However his deal is guaranteed for a portion of the vet min for his experience. The Raptors are required to pay $770,610 of his contract which expires at the end of this season.
Raptors signing Andre Barrett to the remainder of this season to a guaranteed contract of $798,328 is approved.
Raptors signing Marcus Williams to the remainder of this season to a guaranteed contract of $427,163 is approved.

All signings of NBDL players will be guaranteed contracts till the end of this season. If you wish to sign them for longer deals, it must be done during the offsesaon.

[dunkonu21]

You do not veto if you do not like it. Klomp is a good gm and has a plan. Randomly vetoing trades that do not make sense to you is just being a jerk and proof the veto system is flawed.

I veto trades that make the game flawed. I am also vetoing the trade to help out Washington (even tho he prolly doesn't want it). New York just dealt one of the worst contracts in the league in Marbury, and get a ton of value for it. He gets Arenas for Ben Gordon, which is an obvious upgrade; their contract situations are very similar so both of these guys will get paid. Then he is getting Blatche who is arguably equal to David Lee. Add on a first round pick in Nick Young, who has a TON of potential. Etan Thomas is cleared to practice and he is better than Randolph Morris.

So this is the trade break down:

Crappy Contract, Tweener shooting guard who has trouble making own shot, Nice young PF prospect, young 2nd round center.

for

One of the best scorers in the league and a team building block, equally nice PF/C prospect, FIRST ROUND PICK and high potential SG, good big body with decent contract. All while saving a bunch of money.


I think everyone should veto this trade, it's not good.

...Rev maybe you should play this game a little bit longer before you start criticizing people.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

I agree, it should be vetoed. I can't grasp why the Wizards GM would do this. If the Knicks GM is capable of trades like this he should be hired to replace Thomas immediately.

[revprodeji]

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I live in NC. I know about Julius Hodge and how he constantly got whipped by my Tar Heels.

He was a great college player though, I never thought he would make it in the NBA though. Getting shot really sucked. How is he doing? Does he think he'll make it back in the NBA?

Playing down under and doing very very well. I think he will return to the league. He is a good defender with natural pg vision and leadership. Problem is his jumper is still average if not below average. I do not think he was given enough time to learn the league.