Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

[Devilanche]

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This means no trades right?

Which offseason has the most trades ?

The last one ? If so they are expecting the top half of the draft to have a lot of changes and Presti to keep using all his TPEs and picks to move around. More so since we don’t really have the players to move like last offseason.

[zimpy27]

So can an SnT be added to other players to salary match a more expensive player?

Some people say yes and some people say no.

Can Schroder, Kuzma, KCP be combined to salary match for Westbrook in a trade?

[HartfordWhalers]

So can an SnT be added to other players to salary match a more expensive player?

Some people say yes and some people say no.

Can Schroder, Kuzma, KCP be combined to salary match for Westbrook in a trade?

Yes.

The only actual issues are:
A) It would hardcap the receiver of the sign and traded player (Washington)
B) if byc comes up, it reduces the matching ability (you cannot make a 3m a year player worth 20m on matching all of a sudden; not applicable here)
C) it needs to wait until free agency and after the draft (cough Milwaukee last season)

[zimpy27]

So can an SnT be added to other players to salary match a more expensive player?

Some people say yes and some people say no.

Can Schroder, Kuzma, KCP be combined to salary match for Westbrook in a trade?

Yes.

The only actual issues are:
A) It would hardcap the receiver of the sign and traded player (Washington)
B) if byc comes up, it reduces the matching ability (you cannot make a 3m a year player worth 20m on matching all of a sudden; not applicable here)
C) it needs to wait until free agency and after the draft (cough Milwaukee last season)

Ok great, yes this is what I read in CBA but their seems to be people spreading that it can't be combined with other players.

[HartfordWhalers]

So can an SnT be added to other players to salary match a more expensive player?

Some people say yes and some people say no.

Can Schroder, Kuzma, KCP be combined to salary match for Westbrook in a trade?

Yes.

The only actual issues are:
A) It would hardcap the receiver of the sign and traded player (Washington)
B) if byc comes up, it reduces the matching ability (you cannot make a 3m a year player worth 20m on matching all of a sudden; not applicable here)
C) it needs to wait until free agency and after the draft (cough Milwaukee last season)

Ok great, yes this is what I read in CBA but their seems to be people spreading that it can't be combined with other players.

Yeah, it comes up a lot, and sometimes people can be quite insistent even if wrong. This seems a global feature of humans.

The last Durant trade was a S&T combining players for instance.

[Scoot McGroot]

Yes.

The only actual issues are:
A) It would hardcap the receiver of the sign and traded player (Washington)
B) if byc comes up, it reduces the matching ability (you cannot make a 3m a year player worth 20m on matching all of a sudden; not applicable here)
C) it needs to wait until free agency and after the draft (cough Milwaukee last season)

Ok great, yes this is what I read in CBA but their seems to be people spreading that it can't be combined with other players.

Yeah, it comes up a lot, and sometimes people can be quite insistent even if wrong. This seems a global feature of humans.

The last Durant trade was a S&T combining players for instance.

Also, New Orleans S&T a BUNCH of people in the Jrue Holiday deal in order to get Steven Adams there. Zylan Cheatham, Joshia Gray, and Kenrich Williams were all S&T in that deal, and combined outgoing with Jrue and Darius Miller, amongst others. The deal even required all 3 because of BYC rules and the like.

[Scoot McGroot]

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[Resistance]

I hope that people doublecheck the Twitter sites that they quote because seeing quotes from Fake Twitter accounts gets old.

[Godaddycurse]

Lowry wants 90M/3? Who would pay him that much?

[loserX]

Saw this on the GB as a recap of the latest Woj/Lowe chat. In the interest of full disclosure I did *not* hear the content myself, but other people on the GB confirmed this is what was said (and much of this is not news), so take that FWIW:

* 9th (Kings) and 10th (Pelicans) pick are open for trade
* Cavs like the idea of pairing Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley
* Thunder are expected to push for 3rd (Cavs) and 4th (Raptors) pick
* Darius Garland or Collin Sexton won't be moved for picks and young players
* Bradley Beal is not and may not be available
* Warriors are not interested in Ben Simmons
* Bradley Beal is currently uncertain about his future
* Celtics are unlikely to offer Jaylen Brown for Bradley Beal
* No indication of Kawhi considering leaving the Clippers
* Kawhi might miss next season
* Sixers are engaged in Ben Simmons trade talks
* Ben Simmons' situation could get serious during draft week
* Bulls, Knicks, Pelicans and Mavs might be interested in Dennis Schroder
* Kyle Kuzma and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope are being offered around the league
* Kyle Lowry has a big market
* Blake Griffin is likely to stay with the Nets

[daoneandonly]

Saw this on the GB as a recap of the latest Woj/Lowe chat. In the interest of full disclosure I did *not* hear the content myself, but other people on the GB confirmed this is what was said (and much of this is not news), so take that FWIW:

* 9th (Kings) and 10th (Pelicans) pick are open for trade
* Cavs like the idea of pairing Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley
* Thunder are expected to push for 3rd (Cavs) and 4th (Raptors) pick
* Darius Garland or Collin Sexton won't be moved for picks and young players
* Bradley Beal is not and may not be available
* Warriors are not interested in Ben Simmons
* Bradley Beal is currently uncertain about his future
* Celtics are unlikely to offer Jaylen Brown for Bradley Beal
* No indication of Kawhi considering leaving the Clippers
* Kawhi might miss next season
* Sixers are engaged in Ben Simmons trade talks
* Ben Simmons' situation could get serious during draft week
* Bulls, Knicks, Pelicans and Mavs might be interested in Dennis Schroder
* Kyle Kuzma and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope are being offered around the league
* Kyle Lowry has a big market
* Blake Griffin is likely to stay with the Nets

I gave you an And-1 before seeing the Mavs interest in Shroder. But I'll keep it as is as its not the messenger's fault.

[K_chile22]

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Still doubt a trade happens but all the smoke is getting my hopes up

[zimpy27]

Saw this on the GB as a recap of the latest Woj/Lowe chat. In the interest of full disclosure I did *not* hear the content myself, but other people on the GB confirmed this is what was said (and much of this is not news), so take that FWIW:

* 9th (Kings) and 10th (Pelicans) pick are open for trade
* Cavs like the idea of pairing Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley
* Thunder are expected to push for 3rd (Cavs) and 4th (Raptors) pick
* Darius Garland or Collin Sexton won't be moved for picks and young players
* Bradley Beal is not and may not be available
* Warriors are not interested in Ben Simmons
* Bradley Beal is currently uncertain about his future
* Celtics are unlikely to offer Jaylen Brown for Bradley Beal
* No indication of Kawhi considering leaving the Clippers
* Kawhi might miss next season
* Sixers are engaged in Ben Simmons trade talks
* Ben Simmons' situation could get serious during draft week
* Bulls, Knicks, Pelicans and Mavs might be interested in Dennis Schroder
* Kyle Kuzma and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope are being offered around the league
* Kyle Lowry has a big market
* Blake Griffin is likely to stay with the Nets

I gave you an And-1 before seeing the Mavs interest in Shroder. But I'll keep it as is as its not the messenger's fault.

I've had a couple proposals on here that had Schröder going to Mavs. Mavs fans hate it but I think it makes sense if Mavs want to keep THJ, they need a starting playmaker guard that can defend PGs.

[MoneyTalks41890]

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[Texas Chuck]

I've had a couple proposals on here that had Schröder going to Mavs. Mavs fans hate it but I think it makes sense if Mavs want to keep THJ, they need a starting playmaker guard that can defend PGs.

I think Schroder on a reasonable number (MLE or less) is a fine plan D or E for Dallas. Him as plan A or him anywhere near the $100-120M he thinks he's worth is something I think all fans would hate, Dallas or otherwise. He's simply not that kind of player.

But my guess is Dallas looks at Lowry hard. If Paul comes free they look at him. If Dragic comes free they look at him. Otherwise I think they spend elsewhere and just run it back with Brunson who is a very good backup PG.

If the off-season is Dennis and Timmy combining to start at $35M then Dallas had a really poor off-season.

[Texas Chuck]

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IF this is true this is a huge win for the Pels though I don't totally understand JV for them--could be moved forward? Don't hate it for Memphis either. I wanted them to come up to get this pick. Protections added to that Laker pick a nice get for the Pels.

[zimpy27]

I've had a couple proposals on here that had Schröder going to Mavs. Mavs fans hate it but I think it makes sense if Mavs want to keep THJ, they need a starting playmaker guard that can defend PGs.

I think Schroder on a reasonable number (MLE or less) is a fine plan D or E for Dallas. Him as plan A or him anywhere near the $100-120M he thinks he's worth is something I think all fans would hate, Dallas or otherwise. He's simply not that kind of player.

But my guess is Dallas looks at Lowry hard. If Paul comes free they look at him. If Dragic comes free they look at him. Otherwise I think they spend elsewhere and just run it back with Brunson who is a very good backup PG.

If the off-season is Dennis and Timmy combining to start at $35M then Dallas had a really poor off-season.

Oh agree entirely. I expect he gets 18m a year maximum. 35m for Dennis and THJ is not bad price wise but not a very productive off-season agreed.

I actually prefer Dennis over THJ since multi year impact stats have Dennis well above THJ. It's more likely they both had outlier seasons, THJ was up and Dennis was down from normal.

Kidd worked with Dennis a lot and Dennis has some relationship with Dirk. I imagine these things have some influence.

[parsnips33]

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Still doubt a trade happens but all the smoke is getting my hopes up

Would love to see Warriors as the third team in a trade up for #1

[K_chile22]

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Still doubt a trade happens but all the smoke is getting my hopes up

Would love to see Warriors as the third team in a trade up for #1

One would think 2 or 3 alone top any warriors offer. don't think Wiseman+7+14 even gets you one of those picks, so 1 seems out of the question

[parsnips33]

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Still doubt a trade happens but all the smoke is getting my hopes up

Would love to see Warriors as the third team in a trade up for #1

One would think 2 or 3 alone top any warriors offer. don't think Wiseman+7+14 even gets you one of those picks, so 1 seems out of the question

Yeah I think something like Detroit gets 2 or 3 + something from the Warriors, Houston/Cleveland gets 1, and Warriors get something for their troubles. Maybe involving Christian Wood