Random Rumor and General Offseason Discussion Thread

[nolang1]

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Guess I don't get this with Bagley/Bjelica and Dedmon/Giles unless they don't think Giles can play.

They signed him for the room exception. It's better to sign a player who can play than one who can't.

[Texas Chuck]

[ It's also about the Mavericks dealing rather poorly with another franchise for personal reasons.

I mean you do realize this is a fairly large assumption you are basing everything on, right?

Fine to assume that if you want, but understand that not everyone is going to make the assumption that Dallas would endanger relationships just to poke at the Heat a little. 2006 is a long long time ago and 2011 eased most of that pain.

[BBallFreak]

[ It's also about the Mavericks dealing rather poorly with another franchise for personal reasons.

I mean you do realize this is a fairly large assumption you are basing everything on, right?

Fine to assume that if you want, but understand that not everyone is going to make the assumption that Dallas would endanger relationships just to poke at the Heat a little. 2006 is a long long time ago and 2011 eased most of that pain.

Dude, he asked why people were criticizing Dallas. Is that, or is that not the reason?

[Texas Chuck]

[ It's also about the Mavericks dealing rather poorly with another franchise for personal reasons.

I mean you do realize this is a fairly large assumption you are basing everything on, right?

Fine to assume that if you want, but understand that not everyone is going to make the assumption that Dallas would endanger relationships just to poke at the Heat a little. 2006 is a long long time ago and 2011 eased most of that pain.

Dude, he asked why people were criticizing Dallas. Is that, or is that not the reason?

Emotions are the reason. That much is obvious.

You don't know that Dallas intentionally tried to screw over Miami but have chosen to run with it despite it failing the most basic of logic tests---it goes against their own self-interest being foremost among them.

[BBallFreak]

I mean you do realize this is a fairly large assumption you are basing everything on, right?

Fine to assume that if you want, but understand that not everyone is going to make the assumption that Dallas would endanger relationships just to poke at the Heat a little. 2006 is a long long time ago and 2011 eased most of that pain.

Dude, he asked why people were criticizing Dallas. Is that, or is that not the reason?

Emotions are the reason. That much is obvious.

You don't know that Dallas intentionally tried to screw over Miami but have chosen to run with it despite it failing the most basic of logic tests---it goes against their own self-interest being foremost among them.

You're welcome to believe whatever you'd like. I personally have no problem with your belief, I just don't share it. The fact is, he asked a question and I answered it. End of story. If you'd like to talk about the merits of my belief that's fine. I'm more than willing to engage. But he asked the question, "Why is Dallas getting criticized?" I answered. You don't care for my answer, that much is obvious, but it's the actual answer. People believe Dallas intentionally screwed Miami over and are expressing their thoughts on the matter...

[pacers33granger]

Seems the issue with Dallas was Dragic makes too much for their other plans. There's no real other reason to "want" the worse player on the worse contract unless DJJ is that much of an incentive.

I can't imagine that wasn't communicated. I would guess the trigger happy media ran with it before making sure Dallas was still on board. If there was any indication of true malice or foul play i think we woild hear about it.

[pacers33granger]

And i don't get why it's automatically Dallas being the jerk here. There is no evidence of anything other than bad reporting. It could just as easily be Miami's screw up.

[NYG]

How much cap space is still left?

[Apz]

I'm so happy if we dont get dragic or cousins. Not sure what capspace we got to wiggle within but hopefully we can land D Green and someone more, Korkmaz maybe? Or we just play it cool and sits with that extra cap and wait for desperate franchises at deadline

[MoneyTalks41890]

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Guess I don't get this with Bagley/Bjelica and Dedmon/Giles unless they don't think Giles can play.

They signed him for the room exception. It's better to sign a player who can play than one who can't.

Yes, I think that idea is one held by most GMs.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Where is Cousins going? Back to the Warriors? Do they still have the taxpayer exception?

[Texas Chuck]

Where is Cousins going? Back to the Warriors? Do they still have the taxpayer exception?

I'm still nervous about the Mavs. They've long been said to like him. Clippers on a one year deal also makes a lot of sense.

Probably will be a Laker tho, right?

[nolang1]

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Guess I don't get this with Bagley/Bjelica and Dedmon/Giles unless they don't think Giles can play.

They signed him for the room exception. It's better to sign a player who can play than one who can't.

Yes, I think that idea is one held by most GMs.

Yet you were questioning it for some reason. You don't get to 8-9 players and say "ok that's good, now everyone else can be a minimum salary G leaguer because nobody's gonna get hurt all season."

[NoZoLakers]

maybe Dall gm simply didnt do the math correct? sorta like how Pelinka supposedly "didnt understand" the cap?

[kobe_vs_jordan]

And i don't get why it's automatically Dallas being the jerk here. There is no evidence of anything other than bad reporting. It could just as easily be Miami's screw up.

From the outside perspective , it seems more logical to assume Dallas got buyers remorse rather than Miami is orchestrated Dallas cap and roster without communications. Maybe Cuban thought he could spend the money better and couldn't . Nevertheless, Dal insisting that they want Jones and Heat saying Jones was not available seems to go past miscommunications. One party has to be lying. We likely never find out who.

[jbk1234]

This is the second time the Heat have had a Butler deal fall apart on them after it was supposedly *done.* Maybe the issue isn't with the Mavs.

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[MoneyTalks41890]

This is the second time the Heat have had a Butler deal fall apart on them after it was supposedly *done.* Maybe the issue isn't with the Mavs.

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Was thinking about this but didn't really want to wade into the debate.

[MoneyTalks41890]

They signed him for the room exception. It's better to sign a player who can play than one who can't.

Yes, I think that idea is one held by most GMs.

Yet you were questioning it for some reason. You don't get to 8-9 players and say "ok that's good, now everyone else can be a minimum salary G leaguer because nobody's gonna get hurt all season."

My point is more that I would've addressed other positions with that 10m.

[loserX]

How much cap space is still left?

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[BullyKing]

And i don't get why it's automatically Dallas being the jerk here. There is no evidence of anything other than bad reporting. It could just as easily be Miami's screw up.

From the outside perspective , it seems more logical to assume Dallas got buyers remorse rather than Miami is orchestrated Dallas cap and roster without communications. Maybe Cuban thought he could spend the money better and couldn't . Nevertheless, Dal insisting that they want Jones and Heat saying Jones was not available seems to go past miscommunications. One party has to be lying. We likely never find out who.

Except since Olynyk and Jones still doesn't get Miami enough cap space for what they want to do, I'm more inclined to think Miami is also the team that messed up on this since they seem to be missing a lot of details here.