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[LarsV8]

Trying to think of things LAC could do, but there isn't much.

I don't think they can recover their picks, and I think the current core is just going to get worse with age.

What about swapping out distressed assets, but just getting younger.

Harden for Trae
- Don't think the Hawks know what to do with Trae, and Harden could help them in the short term, and could certainly help teach JJ some tricks, like he did with Maxey.
- For LAC, they can't really bottom out, so they have to just try something different and hope to find a spark.

Kawhi for Ja
- Ja in Memphis just seems over, and he looks horrific now. Kawhi is alteast effective when he plays.
- For LAC, same as above, they gamble on talent in the hopes of finding some magic with something different.

you're proposing one or the other, not both right? doesnt make sense to have ja and trae on the same team

Don't know, true to the title, its just a random thought.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Since Dallas isn’t as bad as the tanking teams and Cooper Flagg actually looks better than I expected.. And AD’s value is so low that Dallas realistically might as well keep him, you can cover/ruin Cooper Flagg’s rookie contract by paying AD too much money through the pick debt..

Goal is to just try to win the play-in and be the team to get beat up by OKC or Joker…

What’s the best 2guard Dallas can get for a 2026 swap? Or the 2029 LAL first?

Has to be an upgrade over Christie? Contract doesn’t really matter since Dallas has so much meh money themselves..

Salary has to be Klay, Naji, Martin, Hardy.. Christie if it’s a worthwhile upgrade over Christie.. Lively if he’s actually valued (I assume he isn’t, so just keep him.) .. Gafford probably kept in this scenario with Lively out..

Klay to lakers
Holiday and Duop to Dallas
Naji, Martin/ lakers filler
4th team to talk Dalton

Not sure word Lakers pick but some seconds

Still would love Jrue in Dallas. Seems like a really strong closing line up for two years.

And still have no idea what his value actually is. I do mot think it’s a lot, but some do. I think Portland’s season is going about as expected so they likely aren’t interested in moving Jrue unless he asks to be moved?

But if it costs seconds, yeah Dallas should do it.

Could see the argument to move on from Christie as part of the salary matching instead of Naji or Martin? Figure out the future guards in a couple years but use Christie’s value to upgrade now..

Think some of the value for Portland would be lakers expiring or lakers paying Portland to take Vando.

Think max a perfect low usage player to support kyrie and jrue. Kyrie can take weakest wing option, max and jrue give you options for the best wing option.

[jayu70]

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[jayu70]

What would it cost to get Zubac from LAC?

[zimpy27]

GSW for Giannis or Miami for Giannis are heating up. I still think Orlando would be a cool spot.

[nzahir]

GSW for Giannis or Miami for Giannis are heating up. I still think Orlando would be a cool spot.

Whats GS offering?

Need a team to give some value for Dray/Jimmy and then send Mil Kuminga, Podz, Moody and multiple 1sts amd swaps

No real good prospect or high end picks, but you are betting on future picks being bad

Miami has some assets with Ware, Herro, and Rozier deal for salaries. Picks and swaps too

Lakers work if a 3rd team wants AR

AR, Rui, Vando, Kleber, DK, DK, Thiero, 1st and swaps for Giannis and some salary fillers. Try and get value from Rui too on a 3rd/4th team maybe?

[jayjaysee]

No real good prospect or high end picks, but you are betting on future picks being bad

It’s a pretty good bet that GSW’s future would be bleak though..

LAL would still have Luka.

Miami would still be in Miami.

GS would have Curry and maybe a two year window of Curry. Then an older Giannis with no picks for 4-5 years..

And I do think Dray or Butler would have value

[zimpy27]

GSW for Giannis or Miami for Giannis are heating up. I still think Orlando would be a cool spot.

Whats GS offering?

Need a team to give some value for Dray/Jimmy and then send Mil Kuminga, Podz, Moody and multiple 1sts amd swaps

No real good prospect or high end picks, but you are betting on future picks being bad

Miami has some assets with Ware, Herro, and Rozier deal for salaries. Picks and swaps too

Lakers work if a 3rd team wants AR

AR, Rui, Vando, Kleber, DK, DK, Thiero, 1st and swaps for Giannis and some salary fillers. Try and get value from Rui too on a 3rd/4th team maybe?

GSW would be...
Curry, Hield, Butler, Giannis, Post -- Melton, GP2, TJD, Horford


Bucks get Kuminga, Moody, Podz, Draymond, FRPs
GSW get Giannis, Thanasis, Prince, Harris


The salary works perfect with Draymond as filler, I believe this is why we had articles saying GSW would make Draymond available for Giannis trade.

[nzahir]

GSW for Giannis or Miami for Giannis are heating up. I still think Orlando would be a cool spot.

Whats GS offering?

Need a team to give some value for Dray/Jimmy and then send Mil Kuminga, Podz, Moody and multiple 1sts amd swaps

No real good prospect or high end picks, but you are betting on future picks being bad

Miami has some assets with Ware, Herro, and Rozier deal for salaries. Picks and swaps too

Lakers work if a 3rd team wants AR

AR, Rui, Vando, Kleber, DK, DK, Thiero, 1st and swaps for Giannis and some salary fillers. Try and get value from Rui too on a 3rd/4th team maybe?

GSW would be...
Curry, Hield, Butler, Giannis, Post -- Melton, GP2, TJD, Horford


Bucks get Kuminga, Moody, Podz, Draymond, FRPs
GSW get Giannis, Thanasis, Prince, Harris


The salary works perfect with Draymond as filler, I believe this is why we had articles saying GSW would make Draymond available for Giannis trade.

What would MIL even do with those guys?

Horrible trade

None of the young guys are that good of a prospect

Podz is a solid role guy
Moody is fine

But guys arent special

Kuminga is not very good, especially when u need to pay him

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Think butler draymond and picks could be enough for Giannis. Believe gsw has 3 picks to send?

Would rockets swap Fred and worst pick for draymond?

Butler harder to find a home. Some team might still a first for him.

Thats 5 firsts

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Knicks could do similar by trading kat and OG

[kobe_vs_jordan]

More bad ideas.

Denver sends 2031 first cam, Val , nnaji for zubac, bogs and Dunn.

Zubac an over qualified back up but could get some minutes with joker when rockets and okc play their big lineups.

[Godaddycurse]

More bad ideas.

Denver sends 2031 first cam, Val , nnaji for zubac, bogs and Dunn.

Zubac an over qualified back up but could get some minutes with joker when rockets and okc play their big lineups.

denver cant send 2031 1st

[SkyHook]

Chicago
Out: Vuc, 2026 FRP (POR, top-14 x3)
In: Kuminga
Rumored interest. Mediocre offer for a mediocre player. (Bulls can be cut out if, for some strange reason, Bucks prefer Kuminga.)

Detroit:
Out: T. Harris, 2026 FRP DET
In: Green
Makes sense given the embrace of the Bad Boys culture. Gain a secondary playmaker.

Golden State:
Out: Green, Kuminga, Moody, Podz, 2028 FRP GSW, 2030 FRP GSW (if 1-20 or 2031 unprotected)
In: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
Last push in Curry era.

Milwaukee
Out: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
In: T. Harris, Vuc, Moody, Podz, 4 FRPs
Two (likely) post-Curry GSW FRPs plus two additionally, two good young players, and two serviceable veterans with $48MM in expiring contracts.

[Mavrelous]

Chicago
Out: Vuc, 2026 FRP (POR, top-14 x3)
In: Kuminga
Rumored interest. Mediocre offer for a mediocre player. (Bulls can be cut out if, for some strange reason, Bucks prefer Kuminga.)

Detroit:
Out: T. Harris, 2026 FRP DET
In: Green
Makes sense given the embrace of the Bad Boys culture. Gain a secondary playmaker.

Golden State:
Out: Green, Kuminga, Moody, Podz, 2028 FRP GSW, 2030 FRP GSW (if 1-20 or 2031 unprotected)
In: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
Last push in Curry era.

Milwaukee
Out: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
In: T. Harris, Vuc, Moody, Podz, 4 FRPs
Two (likely) post-Curry GSW FRPs plus two additionally, two good young players, and two serviceable veterans with $58MM in expiring contracts.

That's very low value for Giannis, they need a great piece coming back, they get nothing here.
Green is better than Harris, but Pistons can't afford a non spacing PF when their center and wing defender both can't shoot.

[SkyHook]

Chicago
Out: Vuc, 2026 FRP (POR, top-14 x3)
In: Kuminga
Rumored interest. Mediocre offer for a mediocre player. (Bulls can be cut out if, for some strange reason, Bucks prefer Kuminga.)

Detroit:
Out: T. Harris, 2026 FRP DET
In: Green
Makes sense given the embrace of the Bad Boys culture. Gain a secondary playmaker.

Golden State:
Out: Green, Kuminga, Moody, Podz, 2028 FRP GSW, 2030 FRP GSW (if 1-20 or 2031 unprotected)
In: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
Last push in Curry era.

Milwaukee
Out: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
In: T. Harris, Vuc, Moody, Podz, 4 FRPs
Two (likely) post-Curry GSW FRPs plus two additionally, two good young players, and two serviceable veterans with $58MM in expiring contracts.

That's very low value for Giannis, they need a great piece coming back, they get nothing here.
Green is better than Harris, but Pistons can't afford a non spacing PF when their center and wing defender both can't shoot.

Swing and a miss then.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Chicago
Out: Vuc, 2026 FRP (POR, top-14 x3)
In: Kuminga
Rumored interest. Mediocre offer for a mediocre player. (Bulls can be cut out if, for some strange reason, Bucks prefer Kuminga.)

Detroit:
Out: T. Harris, 2026 FRP DET
In: Green
Makes sense given the embrace of the Bad Boys culture. Gain a secondary playmaker.

Golden State:
Out: Green, Kuminga, Moody, Podz, 2028 FRP GSW, 2030 FRP GSW (if 1-20 or 2031 unprotected)
In: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
Last push in Curry era.

Milwaukee
Out: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
In: T. Harris, Vuc, Moody, Podz, 4 FRPs
Two (likely) post-Curry GSW FRPs plus two additionally, two good young players, and two serviceable veterans with $58MM in expiring contracts.

That's very low value for Giannis, they need a great piece coming back, they get nothing here.
Green is better than Harris, but Pistons can't afford a non spacing PF when their center and wing defender both can't shoot.

What’s the greatest hypothetical piece available?

[Mavrelous]

Chicago
Out: Vuc, 2026 FRP (POR, top-14 x3)
In: Kuminga
Rumored interest. Mediocre offer for a mediocre player. (Bulls can be cut out if, for some strange reason, Bucks prefer Kuminga.)

Detroit:
Out: T. Harris, 2026 FRP DET
In: Green
Makes sense given the embrace of the Bad Boys culture. Gain a secondary playmaker.

Golden State:
Out: Green, Kuminga, Moody, Podz, 2028 FRP GSW, 2030 FRP GSW (if 1-20 or 2031 unprotected)
In: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
Last push in Curry era.

Milwaukee
Out: Antetokounmpo x3, G. Harris, Anthony
In: T. Harris, Vuc, Moody, Podz, 4 FRPs
Two (likely) post-Curry GSW FRPs plus two additionally, two good young players, and two serviceable veterans with $58MM in expiring contracts.

That's very low value for Giannis, they need a great piece coming back, they get nothing here.
Green is better than Harris, but Pistons can't afford a non spacing PF when their center and wing defender both can't shoot.

What’s the greatest hypothetical piece available?

ATL Bucks picks for example.

[Mavrelous]

If no one is offering great piece then at least quantity, 4 picks, 2 of them have no upside isn't cutting it.

[Diop]

Dallas want green back?

Sure, can I interest you in a smiley and shiny Jaden Hardy and allstar and podcaster D'Lo Russel?

Are they expiring? That would be enough for me.
DLo would enjoy playing Balls role while he is injured.

Not saying it will be good, the team is clearly tanking, so it works