Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

[Texas Chuck]

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Whalers loves this guy but none of the teams who have employed him seem to feel the same. Not sure what to think.

[MoneyTalks41890]

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Whalers loves this guy but none of the teams who have employed him seem to feel the same. Not sure what to think.

He’s either coming back on less than the QO, which I don’t think is the case, or they are moving on. He wasn’t horrible. OKC has zero centers. I’m definitely reading too much into this but I think OKC is trying to retain max flexibility going into draft night. Now someone tell me why the QO doesn’t matter one way or another for that.

[Kupchak9]

I'm convinced the one thing holding up the Hield for Kuzma deal is whether or not Harrell opts in. They're probably considering bringing in a 3rd team that's willing to take Harrell in using space or scraps. Likely consulting with him on what team he would prefer to go to. My best guess is the Hawks, whom could really use Harrell off the bench. Also would renuite him with Lou Williams, the one PG that made him look good. Kris Dunn also just opted in and doesn't really have a place on the roster. They can move him to match salaries a bit.

LAL in: Hield
SAC in: Kuzma, Dunn
ATL in: Harrell

I'm sure there will be some picks going around, but that's probably the general framework.

[Texas Chuck]

Lou is a FA that Atlanta is unlikely to bring back and even with OO's injury a non-defending center who can't space wouldn't seem to fit. They can play both Collins and Gallo at center if they are willing to play a non-defender there. Makes little sense for Atlanta to spend $10M on a guy who would regularly DNP-CD and certainly they wouldn't use him come playoff time.

[Resistance]

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Whalers loves this guy but none of the teams who have employed him seem to feel the same. Not sure what to think.

He’s either coming back on less than the QO, which I don’t think is the case, or they are moving on. He wasn’t horrible. OKC has zero centers. I’m definitely reading too much into this but I think OKC is trying to retain max flexibility going into draft night. Now someone tell me why the QO doesn’t matter one way or another for that.

.......................QO............Cap Hold
Tony Bradley..$5,277,669....$10,626,180


42. What is restricted free agency?

In order to make their free agent a restricted free agent, a team must submit a qualifying offer to the player between the day following the last game of the NBA Finals and June 29. The qualifying offer is a standing offer for a one-year guaranteed contract, which becomes a regular contact if the player decides to sign it. This ensures that the team does not gain the right of first refusal without offering a contract themselves. The amount of the qualifying offer depends on the situation:

Without QO

If prior discussions with his agent were about a contract starting at $5 million and another team offers him $6 million, then he can leave because OKC doesn't have the right to match/accept the $6 million contract offer.

[rpa]

I'm convinced the one thing holding up the Hield for Kuzma deal is whether or not Harrell opts in. They're probably considering bringing in a 3rd team that's willing to take Harrell in using space or scraps. Likely consulting with him on what team he would prefer to go to. My best guess is the Hawks, whom could really use Harrell off the bench. Also would renuite him with Lou Williams, the one PG that made him look good. Kris Dunn also just opted in and doesn't really have a place on the roster. They can move him to match salaries a bit.

LAL in: Hield
SAC in: Kuzma, Dunn
ATL in: Harrell

I'm sure there will be some picks going around, but that's probably the general framework.

I still think the holdup is Holmes. The primary reason for the Kings to make this trade is to have enough cap space to keep Holmes, but Holmes isn't going to give them a commitment until he tests the market.

[Scoot McGroot]

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Whalers loves this guy but none of the teams who have employed him seem to feel the same. Not sure what to think.

He’s either coming back on less than the QO, which I don’t think is the case, or they are moving on. He wasn’t horrible. OKC has zero centers. I’m definitely reading too much into this but I think OKC is trying to retain max flexibility going into draft night. Now someone tell me why the QO doesn’t matter one way or another for that.

Anything on draft night, Bradley is still on the books since it uses this past years salaries. Otherwise, with or without the QO, his cap hold is still the same ($10.6m) until OKC otherwise renounces him. This way, he just can’t sign the QO immediately and lock OKC into his salary.

[gambitx777]

As a wizards fan. I'm ready to move on. I hope we find a home for brad by thursday .

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[HartfordWhalers]

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I want him back, he was great.

[NYG]

What are we putting in the smokescreen category and what seems legit?

[NYG]

As a wizards fan. I'm ready to move on. I hope we find a home for brad by thursday .

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The problem is the best offer is likely the Warriors deal and I'm not sure that's enough if he leaves the door open on re-signing

[Texas Chuck]

What are we putting in the smokescreen category and what seems legit?

To each their own, right? I apply logic. Can I make it make sense? If so then I am unlikely to outright dismiss it unless its from a real known hack. Does it make no sense? If not I figure its bad speculation or someone has an agenda and is using someone willing to be used to further it.

Right now Dallas has been linked to PG's and prioritizing THJ. It's logical enough and Stein has been reporting it and his credibility on Maverick stuff has always been top notch(Note: I have no idea if the regime change impacts his ability to get info from them now, but he gets the benefit of the doubt from me.)

On the flip side, known hack Mike Fisher has ran with stories like KP could be the center of a Dame trade or the Kings could give Barnes and 9 for him that I dismiss out of hand based on both the source and just the utter nonsense of the rumor.

[eminence]

None of the Jazz rumors have felt particularly legit, other than trying to get off Favors money.

On the flipside pretty much all of the GS rumors have felt a little legit, lol.

[Dn4sty]

What are we putting in the smokescreen category and what seems legit?

When Lowe and Schmitz say they don’t believe the SGA rumors, I tend to put a lot more weight into that then what is being put out by other outlets. Both of those guys have connections/direct access to people and sources that others simply don’t

[NYG]

I buy the Knicks trying to trade up, but I bet they only do it if it's worth it and I don't see any one trading down from a pick that is worth it.

[VCfor3]

The only solid Grizz rumor was a 10+Bledsoe for 17 deal and I reckon that was fairly legit seeing as it happened ha. I don't buy really any of the speculation on which prospect we are targeting seeing as we have been linked to just about anyone who could logically go in the 6-10 range.

I half expect two trades on draft night for Memphis. One to move up from 10 (feels like 7 or 8 is the most likely) and one to move up from #40 (Tyus or Allen or future 2nd as incentive?)

[AmusingFiddle]

I'm convinced the one thing holding up the Hield for Kuzma deal is whether or not Harrell opts in. They're probably considering bringing in a 3rd team that's willing to take Harrell in using space or scraps. Likely consulting with him on what team he would prefer to go to. My best guess is the Hawks, whom could really use Harrell off the bench. Also would renuite him with Lou Williams, the one PG that made him look good. Kris Dunn also just opted in and doesn't really have a place on the roster. They can move him to match salaries a bit.

LAL in: Hield
SAC in: Kuzma, Dunn
ATL in: Harrell

I'm sure there will be some picks going around, but that's probably the general framework.

I still think the holdup is Holmes. The primary reason for the Kings to make this trade is to have enough cap space to keep Holmes, but Holmes isn't going to give them a commitment until he tests the market.

If legit the hold up could be many things.Timing for 1, Trade has to happen in Aug; when Kuz new salary kicks in

If Trez is involved it would be his option situation not Holmes. Trez would be Holmes replacement.



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[NYG]

It feels like the top 3 is...

Pistons - Cunningham
Rockets - Green
Cavaliers - Mobley

What does Toronto do at 4? Trade the pick for a vet? Draft Suggs, Barnes, Kuminga, Bouknight? Trade Down?

[bondom34]

Wouldn't particularly buy any rumors from Fischer/Amico/other notably non-reliable ones (Edit: Sheridan too). Same for the SGA guy (tbh seemed to be debunked a bit by Lowe's pod). Believe the more reliable guys.

[rpa]

If Trez is involved it would be his option situation not Holmes. Trez would be Holmes replacement.

Trez isn't a Holmes replacement and wouldn't have any interest going to the Kings (especially not on a contract where he took a paycut to compete for a title).