Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj]

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Who won the trade?

Lakers
21
48%
Thunder
7
16%
Both
15
34%
Neither
1
2%
 
Total votes: 44

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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#121 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:03 am

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In the meantime, there’s the little issue of Green projecting as a more valuable player than Schröder.



Think DG should be more impactful next season depending on his team. I think a more accurate comparison would be Rondo via MLE + DG + 28 vs Schröder + MLE + DG replacement.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#122 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:57 am

Also this getting done now means a Paul trade is a given and they are still deciding between offers but that their minimum threshold for dealing him has been met right?
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#123 » by Buzzard » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:12 am

Texas Chuck wrote:Also this getting done now means a Paul trade is a given and they are still deciding between offers but that their minimum threshold for dealing him has been met right?

I hope the Knicks take him or Westbrook. I can see either headed that way.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#124 » by Buzzard » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:19 am

Texas Chuck wrote:Also this getting done now means a Paul trade is a given and they are still deciding between offers but that their minimum threshold for dealing him has been met right?

Most everyone thought Presti would flip CP3 right after trading for him. That did not happen. I think Green is going to be similar. I see Green and Adams as his least valued assets right now and CP3 as his most valued that he wants to move.

Now when teams start thinking about cutting cap for 2021, I can see things heating up for both Green and Adams at the deadline. CP3 goes first in my opinion and its not close.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#125 » by Slava » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:26 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:Added a poll, as they are always fun to look at in a year.

I have this as solid value for OKC, especially if Green gets flipped as I assume he will. For Lakers? It is tough as I tend to agree with things like:

In the meantime, there’s the little issue of Green projecting as a more valuable player than Schröder.


https://theathletic.com/2198838/2020/11/15/dennis-schroder-lakers-trade-hollinger-analysis/?source=rss

That said, I see how Dennis fits there. I think I have to vote OKC over both, based off some concern about which Schroder will be there next season:

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I struggle with valuing Schroder off last year, but I also do see some reasons to.

He was a very stable shooter with around a 51% TS% and then last year his efficiency jumped dramatically to 57.5%. He was a 34% 3 point shooter and now he is a 38.5% one.

What also happened is he jumped from being assisted 33% of the time to roughly 50%. That is a huge change, and immediately would raise some concern that this is a product of playing offball with 2 other pg's (Paul and SGA) and may not be replicable elsewhere.

But also his shooting from 3 when wide open or open 4+ feet before nearest defender improved dramatically. His shooting from 3 when touching he ball for under two seconds improved considerably. It is possible these are better open looks, and it is the product of Chris Paul. Or it is possible that Schroder has worked on and can now reliably burn defenses that leave him open from 3.

The gap between a 15m a year pg that is defensively weak and shoots 51% TS ... and one that can initiate and drive while also hitting 3's at 38.5% is huge.

One would destroy an already lacking spacing and be clearly negative value at that price tag,while the other could be quite useful (ignoring salary matching). And there is no guarantee that what you are getting is one or the other.


Pelton gives the Lakers a C as well, which tempered my initial excitement a bit although he doesn't rank based on player quality but on Lakers depleting all their best assets in one move so he suggests viewing it in context depending on what they do in free agency.

I still think Green was on the way out as the Lakers were going to invest in KCP and with the investment Caruso, the SG spot is fairly loaded. Neither Green nor the other guys can guard bigger wings anyways so that addition always had to come from the MLE or a trade with Kuzma/McGee/Bradley/Cook or whichever of them opts in.
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