WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore).

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Valanciunas/capspace/17 for Bledsoe/Adams/picks: your take?

JV Squad: Pelicans win, getting cap now and later without dropping out of the draft
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36%
Adams family: Grizzlies win, moving up in the draft and improving their big-man defence
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23%
I Feel a Draft Coming on: both teams win; Pelicans clear cap from bad fits, while the Griz get that top-10 pick they crave
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38%
Bled Dry: both teams lose; Griz shouldn't be tying up future cap and the Pelicans overpaid
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3%
 
Total votes: 90

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Re: [Woj]: Memphis/New Orleans (Bledsoe/Adams/Valanciunas/picks) 

Post#121 » by R-DAWG » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:36 pm

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VCfor3 wrote:I can see what Memphis was thinking, but it feels like an absolute win for the Pelicans. Don't love this for Memphis.


I like it quite a bit. Essentially this is JV/17 for Adams/10 which is the sort of move they should have been looking for. Then Bledsoe for the future Laker pick as a requirement for the first part. They lose a bit of value on that 2nd bit, but this gives them a chance to get the kind of offensive-minded prospect they need out of this draft.

For the Pels I love it too. They upgrade center(though I would probably be trying to move him on as well as he's an odd fit next to Zion) and clear some money towards an aggressive free agency push.


I thought a deal of Bledsoe + Adams into cap space for #10 seemed fair. And in this deal I think you need to view JV as a positive value asset. I guess #17 for a future 1st makes some sense if Memphis isn't in love with anyone in this years draft and prefers a future pick for trade purposes.

Anyway, excellent trade for the Pelicans as they create cap space and improve their roster while only moving down 7 slots (with a ton of draft capital to move back up if there is a player that they love).

And respect to Memphis for stepping up and getting a prime asset, the #10 pick, Memphis isn't necessarily a free agent destination, so having essentially $21 MM (difference between JV and Adams/Bledsoe) this year and $21MM next year tied plus letting JV go isn't a horrible price for a top 10 pick in a strong draft. So I guess, JV + #17 for Adams and #10 is fair, even with the extra money. And Bledsoe + a future 1st into cap space is fair.

So, again, respect for Memphis for being bold and making a move into the top 10.
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Re: WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore). 

Post#122 » by Euphonetiks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:55 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Griffin's getting fired. Maybe not tomorrow, but that's the No. 10 pick and JV in postseason is what he is.

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Jaxson Hayes can take over for JV in the post season or we can go smaller depedning in the match up. JV if we keep him will be very useful in the regular season just like he was for Memphis.
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Re: WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore). 

Post#123 » by PELICANSFAN » Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:34 pm

E S V L wrote:Adams is going to be a beast next to Ja.

Bledsoe-Melton-Bane from the bench? OMG. I can’t wait.

Maybe if Memphis can load manage Adams. His body is really breaking down for how young he is. He will be great the first 1/4 to 1/3 of the season, but unless load managed, will be a non-factor for much of the rest of the season. He is unplayable late in games due to his FT shooting. However, I expect he will get more involved in scoring for Memphis as he will not have Zion next to him inside.
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Re: WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore). 

Post#124 » by Resistance » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:19 am

jbk1234 wrote:Griffin's getting fired. Maybe not tomorrow, but that's the No. 10 pick and JV in postseason is what he is.

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Other than negotiating the protections on the LAL picks in the Davis trade, I am struggling to think of anything that he has done that shows he is an above average FO Exec.
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Re: WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore). 

Post#125 » by VCfor3 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:11 am

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jbk1234 wrote:Griffin's getting fired. Maybe not tomorrow, but that's the No. 10 pick and JV in postseason is what he is.

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Other than negotiating the protections on the LAL picks in the Davis trade, I am struggling to think of anything that he has done that shows he is an above average FO Exec.

He brought that lottery luck and got Zion. What does that count as?
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Re: WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore). 

Post#126 » by babyjax13 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:36 am

Val can stretch the court a little bit, so I actually think he is a better stylistic fit with Zion. I do think this means Hayes/17 for something is on the horizon.
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Re: WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore). 

Post#127 » by MKWB » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:01 am

babyjax13 wrote:Val can stretch the court a little bit, so I actually think he is a better stylistic fit with Zion. I do think this means Hayes/17 for something is on the horizon.


Highly doubtful. Hayes showed huge leaps last season, but his body and game IQ still needs to grow. Val is just a much better fitting vet starting C, while Hayes continues his development coming off the bench. Also remember, Val is on a 1 year contract. It's even possible he is re-routed to another team this offseason, or at the trade deadline.

Unless it's an overpay from another team, or included in a trade for a clear star-- Hayes is definitely in Griffin's future plans.
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Re: WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore). 

Post#128 » by babyjax13 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:06 am

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babyjax13 wrote:Val can stretch the court a little bit, so I actually think he is a better stylistic fit with Zion. I do think this means Hayes/17 for something is on the horizon.


Highly doubtful. Hayes showed huge leaps last season, but his body and game IQ still needs to grow. Val is just a much better fitting vet starting C, while Hayes continues his development coming off the bench. Also remember, Val is on a 1 year contract. It's even possible he is re-routed to another team this offseason, or at the trade deadline.

Unless it's an overpay from another team, or included in a trade for a clear star-- Hayes is definitely in Griffin's future plans.


I really like Hayes, this does make some sense, although I wonder why you'd move down if the plan were to give the reigns to Jaxson.
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Re: WOJ: Jonas Valančiūnas to New Orleans (Adams, Bledsoe, and picks galore). 

Post#129 » by PaKwAn » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:32 am

I liked what i saw with Hayes last season especially towards the end when he started taking and making some 3pt shots... i still think he needs at least a year more to learn and develop some more...he still fouls a lot at times and he can even play with val now unlike with adams last year

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