how to solve Houston's problem (FVV)

[Xman]

[quote="DB23"][quote="Xman"]Rockets:
C - Sengun, Adams, Capela
- set at center with depth

PF - Jabari, DFS, Amen, DFS, Durant
SF - Durant, Eason, Amen, DFS
- more than enough forwards

Guards - Reed, Amen
- needs help

Backups - JeffGreen, Tate, Holiday, Okogie, CamMatthews, Davison, 2 other minimum guys
- These guys are solid cheap backups that are really not needed (except at guard possibly).

What assets I might offer:
any of the backups above
2nd best of firsts in 2027 and/or 2029. I think the picks will be the main thing shipped if a deal is done. While the team could spare Reed or Tari, probably not getting back anything matching their value to the Rockets.

So, while Houston needs guards, it does not have to be a great playmaker - but shooting is key. KD and Amen will be two main ball handlers when they are in the game. So, if Reed has gotten his shooting in line (was supposed to be great shooter), then no problems.

Dream Targets: Melo, Booker, etc. - I just do not think Houston makes such a big move which would require those 2027&29 firsts and probably young talent.

Interesting Old Guys: Jrue $32.4, CJ $30.6, etc. : Most of these guys just cost too much and would cripple the team.

Guys other teams need to keep: DWhite, Nembhard, etc.: Good players but are key to their teams (like many consider Taro for Houston).

More Realistic Targets:
Coby White CHI $12.9 - Expiring and would be good filler. Solid cheap all around guard.
Dillon Brooks PHX $22.1 - matches FVV salary and would be strong to bring him back. Unlikely to happen though.
Hield GS $9.2 - His shooting would be great off of KD.

My December 15 trade:
PHX gets FVV, 2027 2nd best of Hou/BRK/PHX, 2029 second best of HOU/DAL/PHX.
CHI gets three seconds from Phoenix and expiring (some combo of JeffGreen, Tate, Holiday, Davison, Okogie, etc.).
GS gets 2027 worst of Minn/Uta/CLE and expiring (some combo of JeffGreen, Tate, Holiday, Davison, Okogie, etc.).
HOU gets Coby (note that if Reed is solid then I do not thin they need Coby), Brooks (hated to see him go), Hield (the shooting is needed unless either Reed or Jabari become the three point ace they were supposed to be).

Guard: Brooks, Amen, Reed, Coby, Hield
Forward: KD, Jabari, Tari, DFS
Center: Sengun, Adams, Capela

Anyway, I would target Hield right now and Brooks on December 15th. I would have to see how Reed looks in practice but might pull the trigger quickly if Reed has not improved (and Coby can be had cheap enough: if done early then might need to be salary filler and 2027 second best of hou/phx/brk for Coby and some combo of 2nds or that POR top 14 protected first.[/quote]

Why would the warriors do that deal?[/quote]

GS is riding into the sunset on their old guys. Ring chance is almost nil. Even if Curry supercharges them into second round they will crash like last year. Getting expiring contracts and picks makes sense. Only question is how much pick value. Multiple seconds, a low or mid-first?

[DB23]

Rockets:
C - Sengun, Adams, Capela
- set at center with depth

PF - Jabari, DFS, Amen, DFS, Durant
SF - Durant, Eason, Amen, DFS
- more than enough forwards

Guards - Reed, Amen
- needs help

Backups - JeffGreen, Tate, Holiday, Okogie, CamMatthews, Davison, 2 other minimum guys
- These guys are solid cheap backups that are really not needed (except at guard possibly).

What assets I might offer:
any of the backups above
2nd best of firsts in 2027 and/or 2029. I think the picks will be the main thing shipped if a deal is done. While the team could spare Reed or Tari, probably not getting back anything matching their value to the Rockets.

So, while Houston needs guards, it does not have to be a great playmaker - but shooting is key. KD and Amen will be two main ball handlers when they are in the game. So, if Reed has gotten his shooting in line (was supposed to be great shooter), then no problems.

Dream Targets: Melo, Booker, etc. - I just do not think Houston makes such a big move which would require those 2027&29 firsts and probably young talent.

Interesting Old Guys: Jrue $32.4, CJ $30.6, etc. : Most of these guys just cost too much and would cripple the team.

Guys other teams need to keep: DWhite, Nembhard, etc.: Good players but are key to their teams (like many consider Taro for Houston).

More Realistic Targets:
Coby White CHI $12.9 - Expiring and would be good filler. Solid cheap all around guard.
Dillon Brooks PHX $22.1 - matches FVV salary and would be strong to bring him back. Unlikely to happen though.
Hield GS $9.2 - His shooting would be great off of KD.

My December 15 trade:
PHX gets FVV, 2027 2nd best of Hou/BRK/PHX, 2029 second best of HOU/DAL/PHX.
CHI gets three seconds from Phoenix and expiring (some combo of JeffGreen, Tate, Holiday, Davison, Okogie, etc.).
GS gets 2027 worst of Minn/Uta/CLE and expiring (some combo of JeffGreen, Tate, Holiday, Davison, Okogie, etc.).
HOU gets Coby (note that if Reed is solid then I do not thin they need Coby), Brooks (hated to see him go), Hield (the shooting is needed unless either Reed or Jabari become the three point ace they were supposed to be).

Guard: Brooks, Amen, Reed, Coby, Hield
Forward: KD, Jabari, Tari, DFS
Center: Sengun, Adams, Capela

Anyway, I would target Hield right now and Brooks on December 15th. I would have to see how Reed looks in practice but might pull the trigger quickly if Reed has not improved (and Coby can be had cheap enough: if done early then might need to be salary filler and 2027 second best of hou/phx/brk for Coby and some combo of 2nds or that POR top 14 protected first.

Why would the warriors do that deal?

GS is riding into the sunset on their old guys. Ring chance is almost nil. Even if Curry supercharges them into second round they will crash like last year. Getting expiring contracts and picks makes sense. Only question is how much pick value. Multiple seconds, a low or mid-first?

No one on the dubs sees it that way.

Players and coach love him. Zero chance a trade like that happens. Even if remote, they are trying to contend.

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