Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings, Blah Blah 14.0 Eddie Najera Edicion

[Godaddycurse]

The whole point of adding THJ is to not bring back DD though.

I presume THJ is just salary filler. He also doesnt fill the SF hole that letting DDR and caruso go will create. I doubt chicago is tanking so they will bring back derozan

THJ played a majority of his minutes at the 3.

Regardless, there is little difference between a 2 and 3 in today's NBA. This isn't 2004.

He's considered a SF on paper because doncic is a PG... but on D doncic guards the bigger player. There's a difference on defense.

[Colbinii]

I presume THJ is just salary filler. He also doesnt fill the SF hole that letting DDR and caruso go will create. I doubt chicago is tanking so they will bring back derozan

THJ played a majority of his minutes at the 3.

Regardless, there is little difference between a 2 and 3 in today's NBA. This isn't 2004.

He's considered a SF on paper because doncic is a PG... but on D doncic guards the bigger player. There's a difference on defense.

Hardly a difference in the current NBA with the amount of switching.

[Mavrelous]

5 years and 5 months (Feb 1st 2019 to 2024 draft), I had a mortgage that last less time

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[jayjaysee]

Assuming Dallas stays about where they are salary wise after their “big” move this offseason…

Say the “big move” is THJ+first for Caruso ish..

Would you hard cap yourself if you could drop far enough under the tax to use the full MLE and split it between DJJ and Exum?

Give DJJ a “3yr22-24” and give Exum a new 3yr16ish, sort of just renegotiating Exum’s 1yr3 to keep him, while getting DJJ a bit extra..

I keep going back to this idea, I know. I just really like having those two around..

Or all of that is unnecessary to keep DJJ and you just keep Exum for one year, if he leaves he leaves?

Chicago is at 128M right now. Patrick william will get about 16-20M, if they bring back derozan that will be another 20+ potentially. Add in their draft pick and i dont think they are willing to take on THJs extra salary for caruso (likely puts them into tax)

Well, running it back should be a really sad option for Chicago.

But I really put no work into that idea as it was just the tool to get Dallas close enough under the tax to wiggle with, it only trims 7 million but that matters.

Maybe Chicago would go over the tax temporarily and plan to move one of Vuc, LaVine, THJ, Ball later in the season depending on how the year is going or whether there would just be a third team involved.. THJ only makes 16 mil next year, so I don’t really think it’ll be hard to move him.

Didn’t put much work in that because it wasn’t the point of the post. The idea was the rest of the post about not guaranteeing Exum’s beautiful little 3 million deal for next year and locking him and DJJ up. I like it, but hard capping yourself at the first apron for two bench guys when you need a third best player - feels unwise.

[zimpy27]

5 years and 5 months (Feb 1st 2019 to 2024 draft), I had a mortgage that last less time

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Porzingis+THJ
for
DSJ+#21(Keon Johnson)+#25(2024)


How do we grade this?

[jayjaysee]

5 years and 5 months (Feb 1st 2019 to 2024 draft), I had a mortgage that last less time

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Porzingis+THJ
for
DSJ+#21(Keon Johnson)+#25(2024)


How do we grade this?

Hindsight trades aren’t fun for the losers.

Dallas took a bad bet and it cost them a lot of flexibility to add a star next to Luka. Maybe they handle everything different if they didn’t make that first move..

(If Kyrie and Gafford keep this up, it’s all okay)

[daoneandonly]

5 years and 5 months (Feb 1st 2019 to 2024 draft), I had a mortgage that last less time

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Porzingis+THJ
for
DSJ+#21(Keon Johnson)+#25(2024)


How do we grade this?

Hindsight trades aren’t fun for the losers.

Dallas took a bad bet and it cost them a lot of flexibility to add a star next to Luka. Maybe they handle everything different if they didn’t make that first move..

(If Kyrie and Gafford keep this up, it’s all okay)

I get a lot of things wrong admittedly, but I knew this was an overpay at the time. Dallas gave up massive cap space and 2 FRP for a guy coming off an ACL tear and already showed lack of character, plus having to take on crap like COurtney Lee, Trey Burke, and the aforementioned THJ. It was a massive miss that really set the team back.

[zimpy27]

5 years and 5 months (Feb 1st 2019 to 2024 draft), I had a mortgage that last less time

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Porzingis+THJ
for
DSJ+#21(Keon Johnson)+#25(2024)


How do we grade this?

Hindsight trades aren’t fun for the losers.

Dallas took a bad bet and it cost them a lot of flexibility to add a star next to Luka. Maybe they handle everything different if they didn’t make that first move..

(If Kyrie and Gafford keep this up, it’s all okay)

I never quite worked out why KP and Luka didn't work together, was it coaching. KP clearly has talent, was it maturity? Is that still not a flaw of coaching?

[Mavrelous]

I never quite worked out why KP and Luka didn't work together, was it coaching. KP clearly has talent, was it maturity? Is that still not a flaw of coaching?

Luka and KP were young and immature, both are also hot heads, Luka wasn't yet established as a star and KP came from the big Apple hype and saw himself as equal to Luka, it worked in the 1st year until KP went down in game 3 with meniscus tear, he came back hobbled the season after, and RC reduced his offensive role, he didn't like it and he admitted to not putting full effort in the PO, when Luka was killing himself against the Clips and Brunson went MIA.
Once he started complaining of a knee pain again in 22 they shipped him off for pennies on the dollar.

[daoneandonly]

I never quite worked out why KP and Luka didn't work together, was it coaching. KP clearly has talent, was it maturity? Is that still not a flaw of coaching?

Luka and KP were young and immature, both are also hot heads, Luka wasn't yet established as a star and KP came from the big Apple hype and saw himself as equal to Luka, it worked in the 1st year until KP went down in game 3 with meniscus tear, he came back hobbled the season after, and RC reduced his offensive role, he didn't like it and he admitted to not putting full effort in the PO, when Luka was killing himself against the Clips and Brunson went MIA.
Once he started complaining of a knee pain again in 22 they shipped him off for pennies on the dollar.

Essentially this! KP didnt have any fight in him in Dallas and then they traded him for a heap of crap from Washington.

Its ridiculous that Dallas is responsible in some way for 3 of the best teams in the Eat due to some incompetent decisions

KP trade to Wash, who was then shipped to Boston who became a juggernaut
Letting Brunson go to NY for nothing
Hiring Kidd over Mosley who's a huge part of Orl's success

[Texas Chuck]

5 years and 5 months (Feb 1st 2019 to 2024 draft), I had a mortgage that last less time

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Porzingis+THJ
for
DSJ+#21(Keon Johnson)+#25(2024)


How do we grade this?

Don't forget the $60M in salary dumps the Knicks also got here. Said it then and said it now, New York got great value out of a guy who was injured and that they didn't want to give his next contract too. Doesn't matter that they didn't get a premium asset out of the deal. They got a lot of value out of a dead asset.

[Godaddycurse]

I never quite worked out why KP and Luka didn't work together, was it coaching. KP clearly has talent, was it maturity? Is that still not a flaw of coaching?

Luka and KP were young and immature, both are also hot heads, Luka wasn't yet established as a star and KP came from the big Apple hype and saw himself as equal to Luka, it worked in the 1st year until KP went down in game 3 with meniscus tear, he came back hobbled the season after, and RC reduced his offensive role, he didn't like it and he admitted to not putting full effort in the PO, when Luka was killing himself against the Clips and Brunson went MIA.
Once he started complaining of a knee pain again in 22 they shipped him off for pennies on the dollar.

Essentially this! KP didnt have any fight in him in Dallas and then they traded him for a heap of crap from Washington.

Its ridiculous that Dallas is responsible in some way for 3 of the best teams in the Eat due to some incompetent decisions

KP trade to Wash, who was then shipped to Boston who became a juggernaut
Letting Brunson go to NY for nothing
Hiring Kidd over Mosley who's a huge part of Orl's success

Also rick carlisle and Pacers..

[daoneandonly]

Luka and KP were young and immature, both are also hot heads, Luka wasn't yet established as a star and KP came from the big Apple hype and saw himself as equal to Luka, it worked in the 1st year until KP went down in game 3 with meniscus tear, he came back hobbled the season after, and RC reduced his offensive role, he didn't like it and he admitted to not putting full effort in the PO, when Luka was killing himself against the Clips and Brunson went MIA.
Once he started complaining of a knee pain again in 22 they shipped him off for pennies on the dollar.

Essentially this! KP didnt have any fight in him in Dallas and then they traded him for a heap of crap from Washington.

Its ridiculous that Dallas is responsible in some way for 3 of the best teams in the Eat due to some incompetent decisions

KP trade to Wash, who was then shipped to Boston who became a juggernaut
Letting Brunson go to NY for nothing
Hiring Kidd over Mosley who's a huge part of Orl's success

Also rick carlisle and Pacers..

Oh yea. Wow, the East is garbage as is, imagine how bad it would eb if Dallas was competently run.

[Colbinii]

Essentially this! KP didnt have any fight in him in Dallas and then they traded him for a heap of crap from Washington.

Its ridiculous that Dallas is responsible in some way for 3 of the best teams in the Eat due to some incompetent decisions

KP trade to Wash, who was then shipped to Boston who became a juggernaut
Letting Brunson go to NY for nothing
Hiring Kidd over Mosley who's a huge part of Orl's success

Also rick carlisle and Pacers..

Oh yea. Wow, the East is garbage as is, imagine how bad it would eb if Dallas was competently run.

Every team makes mistakes. This isn't a Dallas only thing.

Come on man.

[daoneandonly]

Also rick carlisle and Pacers..

Oh yea. Wow, the East is garbage as is, imagine how bad it would eb if Dallas was competently run.

Every team makes mistakes. This isn't a Dallas only thing.

Come on man.

Agreed. absolutely. Just an observation, the already pathetic East would be worse if not for some moves from Dallas that directly improved 3teams, and even Boston through 2 degrees of separation

[Colbinii]

Oh yea. Wow, the East is garbage as is, imagine how bad it would eb if Dallas was competently run.

Every team makes mistakes. This isn't a Dallas only thing.

Come on man.

Agreed. absolutely. Just an observation, the already pathetic East would be worse if not for some moves from Dallas that directly improved 3teams, and even Boston through 2 degrees of separation

Yeah, most teams you can do this with.

If Minnesota chose Butler in 2019 and decided to embrace and build with him at the forefront, Miami would never exist with their 2020-2023 runs of 2 NBA Finals appearances.

[daoneandonly]

Every team makes mistakes. This isn't a Dallas only thing.

Come on man.

Agreed. absolutely. Just an observation, the already pathetic East would be worse if not for some moves from Dallas that directly improved 3teams, and even Boston through 2 degrees of separation

Yeah, most teams you can do this with.

If Minnesota chose Butler in 2019 and decided to embrace and build with him at the forefront, Miami would never exist with their 2020-2023 runs of 2 NBA Finals appearances.

My point is the multiple team impact, your example only references one team who improved as a result

[Colbinii]

Agreed. absolutely. Just an observation, the already pathetic East would be worse if not for some moves from Dallas that directly improved 3teams, and even Boston through 2 degrees of separation

Yeah, most teams you can do this with.

If Minnesota chose Butler in 2019 and decided to embrace and build with him at the forefront, Miami would never exist with their 2020-2023 runs of 2 NBA Finals appearances.

My point is the multiple team impact, your example only references one team who improved as a result

Thibs > New York

Gobert Trade > Maybe Minnesota picks JJJ instead of Keyonte George

The Spurs are another good one. Traded White and Murray out east.

[Texas Chuck]

so Woj reporting Lore/Arod had a budget that would have had the payroll under the tax next year. Not one of the aprons, the tax.

Wonder the explanation all those guys yelling money wasn't an issue will have for this after insisting their net worth was some 5x what Forbes had it at. Seems like Whalers was on this correctly all along.

[HartfordWhalers]

so Woj reporting Lore/Arod had a budget that would have had the payroll under the tax next year. Not one of the aprons, the tax.

Wonder the explanation all those guys yelling money wasn't an issue will have for this after insisting their net worth was some 5x what Forbes had it at. Seems like Whalers was on this correctly all along.

I will do you one worse.

{No, this isn’t disinformation put out by snake Taylor about a hypothetical that is in doubt anyway, that is the absurd take, woj reporting that it is writing shared with the whole nba isn’t a credibility bridge woj would sell.}

But this coming out now, ~20 days after it was in writing is real bad. It suggests to me that, yes it’s true but even worse, Taylor doesn’t have the legal right and is trying to win public opinion but … Lore and Arod will win arbitration and then have to cut salary.


Hopefully I’m wrong as I would love to see the best scenario for Twolves ownership. And if I rank them they would be:
1) Rich Lore Arod
2) Glenn Taylor with an extra 600m
3) Poor Lore Arod

Edit: Oh I feel so much worse about the tenor of this. Just read the whole article including the NBA gag ordered all parties.

So after the NBA prevents public rebuttal (this wasn’t reported end of March and both were making statements back and forth) there is a full attack piece on how bad Lore and Arod would have been that they cannot reply about ? Yeah this feels both sleazy and unfortunately true.