Rumors, Random Thoughts, and Non-threadworthy Posts The 19th Hole

daoneandonly · Post #1341 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:32 pm

Yet another surgery for AD and why he didnt have this earlier is a valid question. Just ridiculous with this guy

HadAnEffectHere · Post #1342 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:39 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Yet another surgery for AD and why he didnt have this earlier is a valid question. Just ridiculous with this guy

He gets hit in the face 30k times a season and already has vision problems and was hoping to avoid an eye surgery.

jayjaysee · Post #1343 » by **jayjaysee** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:58 pm

I know it’s not a surgery that will keep him out… Tanking with AD and Kyrie in suits is not a bad result for the season

Kyrie/Peterson/Flagg/AD/Lively next season would feel like a playoff team with a really high short term and long term ceiling..

Post #1344 » by **oldncreaky** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:23 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:
JHFVF07 wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
I think perhaps we take a step back and decide what does NY need? Moving Bridges or OG is a must? If so, what is the most glaring hole that needs plugging?

I think they need a good player who can create his own shot and help to run the offense while Brunson rests.

Use Bridges or OG cause they are good players but NYK needs more help with offense(creation).

I'd just try keeping them and seeing if Beal will sign cheap. If that fails, perhaps bring Brogdon in cheap.

Agree. I think trading OG or Bridges for creation help risks creating a bigger hole than it plugs. Also, NYK has already acquired Jordan Clarkson to provide a bit of juice off the bench

PistolPeteJR · Post #1345 » by **PistolPeteJR** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:45 pm

oldncreaky wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
JHFVF07 wrote:
I think they need a good player who can create his own shot and help to run the offense while Brunson rests.

Use Bridges or OG cause they are good players but NYK needs more help with offense(creation).

I'd just try keeping them and seeing if Beal will sign cheap. If that fails, perhaps bring Brogdon in cheap.

Agree. I think trading OG or Bridges for creation help risks creating a bigger hole than it plugs. Also, NYK has already acquired Jordan Clarkson to provide a bit of juice off the bench

Yeah, but he's no playmaker. He's simply a microwave scorer at best. I think JHFVF07 was looking for someone to take the ball out of Brunson's hands to make good decisions rather than the blinders being put on.

daoneandonly · Post #1346 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 9:52 pm

Gafford to the Indy
Jarace Walker to OKC
Aaron Wiggins to Dallas

Indy has Pascal & Toppin at the 4, so they turn Jarace into their Myles replacement. Okc has a guard surplus so this gets them a bigger forward. Dallas gets a starting caliber SG.

Then see if Philly would do Klay for Oubre/Drummond. Dal would need to trim their roster still, but a lot more balanced and cleaner

Lively/Drummond
AD/PJ
Flagg/Naji/Martin
Wiggins/Christie/Oubre
Kyrie/DLow/Exum

jayjaysee · Post #1347 » by **jayjaysee** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:48 am

Real random bad idea.

Was thinking of Olynyk/Champagnie for Rozier/2026 swap (off of OKC first)

But due to aggregating it would have to be..

Olynyk for Simone and a second
Kispert, AJ Johnson, Champagnie for Terry and a swap

Terrible?

Gets Miami far enough under tax to use full MLE once they trim roster down..

Post #1348 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:50 am

I’ve been thinking about Zion to Phoenix and the more I think about it the more I like it.

Godaddycurse · Post #1349 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:50 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I’ve been thinking about Zion to Phoenix and the more I think about it the more I like it.

For what though

Godaddycurse · Post #1350 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:51 am

daoneandonly wrote:Gafford to the Indy
Jarace Walker to OKC
Aaron Wiggins to Dallas

Indy has Pascal & Toppin at the 4, so they turn Jarace into their Myles replacement. Okc has a guard surplus so this gets them a bigger forward. Dallas gets a starting caliber SG.

Then see if Philly would do Klay for Oubre/Drummond. Dal would need to trim their roster still, but a lot more balanced and cleaner

Lively/Drummond
AD/PJ
Flagg/Naji/Martin
Wiggins/Christie/Oubre
Kyrie/DLow/Exum

Okc keeps wiggins over walker (need new contract soon).

Post #1351 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:55 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I’ve been thinking about Zion to Phoenix and the more I think about it the more I like it.

For what though

Jalen Green.

Or some version of filler and Maluch.

I think the Suns have like 7m or so under the 2nd apron after stretch waiving Beal.

Post #1352 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:16 am

anyone know what the Spurs are doing?

It's like they are half committed to being a competitive team and half not.

Devilanche · Post #1353 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:19 am

jayjaysee wrote:Real random bad idea.

Was thinking of Olynyk/Champagnie for Rozier/2026 swap (off of OKC first)

But due to aggregating it would have to be..

Olynyk for Simone and a second
Kispert, AJ Johnson, Champagnie for Terry and a swap

Terrible?

Gets Miami far enough under tax to use full MLE once they trim roster down..

This trade still works with the other champagnie twin ?

Devilanche · Post #1354 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:20 am

zimpy27 wrote:anyone know what the Spurs are doing?

It's like they are half committed to being a competitive team and half not.

I think vet depth . Spacer for those non victor minutes

Post #1355 » by **penbeast0** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:26 am

jayjaysee wrote:Real random bad idea.

Was thinking of Olynyk/Champagnie for Rozier/2026 swap (off of OKC first)

But due to aggregating it would have to be..

Olynyk for Simone and a second
Kispert, AJ Johnson, Champagnie for Terry and a swap

Terrible?

Gets Miami far enough under tax to use full MLE once they trim roster down..

AJ was a 1st last year and showed some talent (and Champagnie was terrific for that matter). Interested in Kispert, Smart, and a 2nd (or Florida State guard Jamir Watkins) for Terry, Fontecchio and the swap?

Bornstellar · Post #1356 » by **Bornstellar** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 2:27 am

zimpy27 wrote:anyone know what the Spurs are doing?

It's like they are half committed to being a competitive team and half not.

Huh? They clearly plan on being a competitive team. They addressed a huge area of need (bench bigs/shooting), and added two rookies who at least one of should be able to contribute positively. Not to mention adding a fully healthy Fox with a summer training with the team under his belt + getting a healthy Wemby back. Spurs still have two open roster spots too. They are making incremental improvements. It's clear they are not trying to go all out yet but are being patient but they should still be much improved from this past year. I expect them to be in the playoff mix next season

Godaddycurse · Post #1357 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 2:36 am

zimpy27 wrote:anyone know what the Spurs are doing?

It's like they are half committed to being a competitive team and half not.

Wait to see how wemby is health and effectiveness wise before commiting all in?

Post #1358 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:31 am

Bornstellar wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:anyone know what the Spurs are doing?

It's like they are half committed to being a competitive team and half not.

Huh? They clearly plan on being a competitive team. They addressed a huge area of need (bench bigs/shooting), and added two rookies who at least one of should be able to contribute positively. Not to mention adding a fully healthy Fox with a summer training with the team under his belt + getting a healthy Wemby back. Spurs still have two open roster spots too. They are making incremental improvements. It's clear they are not trying to go all out yet but are being patient but they should still be much improved from this past year. I expect them to be in the playoff mix next season

Don't think they made any serious competitive moves though. More like a couple moves on the edges.

Are they going to extend Fox at the max? 4 years $230m?

YayBasketball · Post #1359 » by **YayBasketball** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:36 am

Smart + Kispert
for
Murray + Hawkins + 2nds + Matkovic

An exact salary match at 35.5 m. Any chance Wiz go for that?

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #1360 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:38 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:anyone know what the Spurs are doing?

It's like they are half committed to being a competitive team and half not.

Huh? They clearly plan on being a competitive team. They addressed a huge area of need (bench bigs/shooting), and added two rookies who at least one of should be able to contribute positively. Not to mention adding a fully healthy Fox with a summer training with the team under his belt + getting a healthy Wemby back. Spurs still have two open roster spots too. They are making incremental improvements. It's clear they are not trying to go all out yet but are being patient but they should still be much improved from this past year. I expect them to be in the playoff mix next season

Don't think they made any serious competitive moves though. More like a couple moves on the edges.

Are they going to extend Fox at the max? 4 years $230m?

Did they trade for him not to pay him?