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[jojimbo]

Not sure what we could get for him but it sounds like he's available and teams are calling...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SHowardCooper/status/745325758806171649[/tweet]

I don't know about other teams, but I'd put good money on Presti wanting to kick the tires on him. Fits the profile of some of his recent trades (next year RFA, underachieving) and fits a team need.

Dallas had interest at the deadline and still should now. But all we can do is either the Matthews for Koufos/McLemore deal that was well received. Or maybe Devin Harris for Ben/Tuff Juice ?

I'm still on board for the Ben/Koufos for Matthews+filler if we're unable include Koufos in a better deal (which I think we will). It'd be a reasonable move to address our SG need at a price that we could expect to pay a SG like Fournier or Bazemore with the cap jump anyway. I wouldn't love it, but I think it'd be a good move for the Kings for where we're at.

[Andre Roberstan]

Don't know if this belongs under this thread, but Houston's draft and stash Alessandro Gentile wants to come play in the NBA, whether for the Rockets or for someone else, per Woj.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/euroleague-star-wants-to-play-for-rockets-193834389.html

[Dr Positivity]

If Celtics like Noel, #3 for him looks good to me and if Celtics need more Philly has the assets. Colangelo usually treats getting the guy he wants as more important than asset value so if it takes throwing in 24 or 26 to grease the wheels probably a decent chance he'd be in

[Homerclease]

If Celtics like Noel, #3 for him looks good to me and if Celtics need more Philly has the assets. Colangelo usually treats getting the guy he wants as more important than asset value so if it takes throwing in 24 or 26 to grease the wheels probably a decent chance he'd be in

I doubt the Celtics would take another pick seeing as they have 8 of them. It's going to take a player or future picks to make it happen

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Sounds like Thon Maker has really been rising up some draft boards: http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/thon-maker-nba-draft-mixtape-australia-south-sudan-ontario-pacers-bucks/10zvz5luexx8z12xvx17f1dz36

Interest in Maker has reached the late-lottery stage of Thursday’s draft, and there’s a chance he could go as high as No. 10 to Milwaukee. The Pacers, at No. 20, have strong interest, and one league source described the Indiana pick as Maker’s floor—perhaps fitting, since he listed both Indiana and Notre Dame as two schools he was considering attending.

[Texas Chuck]

Put me down in the drafting Thon Maker in the lottery is a bad bad idea. I have no issue with teams in the 20's wanting to take fliers on long-shots, but at 10 you should be able to come away with a player.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

I wonder if teams ever hear rumors about another teams preferred player, and use that as a resource.

In other words, the Spurs are known for their great scouting, I wonder if a team ever hears "Spurs interested in ...." and then start thinking they should scout that player more.

[Texas Chuck]

I wonder if teams ever hear rumors about another teams preferred player, and use that as a resource.

In other words, the Spurs are known for their great scouting, I wonder if a team ever hears "Spurs interested in ...." and then start thinking they should scout that player more.

I'm sure agents try that all the time, yes.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I'm sure when Bryan Colangelo brings up to Danny Ainge,
the 3rd pick in exchange for Noel, Ainge quickly changes the subject
and says: "Let me tell you about the wonders of Marcus Smart.
Even his flops are a work of art."

Yeah, Boston has all the leverage. Philly needs to move out one of the Okafor/Noel tandem,
and they badly need a Big Time PG... and Ainge can deliver one to them.

I could see the 3rd pick being in play if it was Noel and something good... not Philly's picks in the 20s.

Here's a wild trade that gives Philly the best Defensive Backcourt in the NBA:

3 (Dunn) & Bradley for Noel, Saric & the Lakers pick.

[Texas Chuck]

I'm sure when Bryan Colangelo brings up to Danny Ainge,
the 3rd pick in exchange for Noel, Ainge quickly changes the subject
and says: "Let me tell you about the wonders of Marcus Smart.
Even his flops are a work of art."

Yeah, Boston has all the leverage. Philly needs to move out one of the Okafor/Noel tandem,
and they badly need a Big Time PG... and Ainge can deliver one to them.

I could see the 3rd pick being in play if it was Noel and something good... not Philly's picks in the 20s.

Here's a wild trade that gives Philly the best Defensive Backcourt in the NBA:

3 (Dunn) & Bradley for Noel, Saric & the Lakers pick.

Boston isn't getting that return for Bradley and the 3. It's too much.

[Homerclease]

I'm sure when Bryan Colangelo brings up to Danny Ainge,
the 3rd pick in exchange for Noel, Ainge quickly changes the subject
and says: "Let me tell you about the wonders of Marcus Smart.
Even his flops are a work of art."

Yeah, Boston has all the leverage. Philly needs to move out one of the Okafor/Noel tandem,
and they badly need a Big Time PG... and Ainge can deliver one to them.

I could see the 3rd pick being in play if it was Noel and something good... not Philly's picks in the 20s.

Here's a wild trade that gives Philly the best Defensive Backcourt in the NBA:

3 (Dunn) & Bradley for Noel, Saric & the Lakers pick.

Boston isn't getting that return for Bradley and the 3. It's too much.

It's only too much if you assume the lakers are going to be just as bad next year as this past one. If they max out 2 guys and become a playoff team then it becomes a fairly even trade

[Texas Chuck]

I'm sure when Bryan Colangelo brings up to Danny Ainge,
the 3rd pick in exchange for Noel, Ainge quickly changes the subject
and says: "Let me tell you about the wonders of Marcus Smart.
Even his flops are a work of art."

Yeah, Boston has all the leverage. Philly needs to move out one of the Okafor/Noel tandem,
and they badly need a Big Time PG... and Ainge can deliver one to them.

I could see the 3rd pick being in play if it was Noel and something good... not Philly's picks in the 20s.

Here's a wild trade that gives Philly the best Defensive Backcourt in the NBA:

3 (Dunn) & Bradley for Noel, Saric & the Lakers pick.

Boston isn't getting that return for Bradley and the 3. It's too much.

It's only too much if you assume the lakers are going to be just as bad next year as this past one. If they max out 2 guys and become a playoff team then it becomes a fairly even trade

But the deal is being made now not after free agency. You wouldn't de-value the Nets picks in this manner, would you?

[Homerclease]

Boston isn't getting that return for Bradley and the 3. It's too much.

It's only too much if you assume the lakers are going to be just as bad next year as this past one. If they max out 2 guys and become a playoff team then it becomes a fairly even trade

But the deal is being made now not after free agency. You wouldn't de-value the Nets picks in this manner, would you?

Is it? Or is it being consummated later? Not familiar enough with the rules involving the trading of draft picks

[Andre Roberstan]

I'm sure when Bryan Colangelo brings up to Danny Ainge,
the 3rd pick in exchange for Noel, Ainge quickly changes the subject
and says: "Let me tell you about the wonders of Marcus Smart.
Even his flops are a work of art."

Yeah, Boston has all the leverage. Philly needs to move out one of the Okafor/Noel tandem,
and they badly need a Big Time PG... and Ainge can deliver one to them.

I could see the 3rd pick being in play if it was Noel and something good... not Philly's picks in the 20s.

Here's a wild trade that gives Philly the best Defensive Backcourt in the NBA:

3 (Dunn) & Bradley for Noel, Saric & the Lakers pick.

Boston isn't getting that return for Bradley and the 3. It's too much.

It's only too much if you assume the lakers are going to be just as bad next year as this past one. If they max out 2 guys and become a playoff team then it becomes a fairly even trade

It really doesn't. And I wouldn't roll the dice on that.

[Texas Chuck]

It's only too much if you assume the lakers are going to be just as bad next year as this past one. If they max out 2 guys and become a playoff team then it becomes a fairly even trade

But the deal is being made now not after free agency. You wouldn't de-value the Nets picks in this manner, would you?

Is it? Or is it being consummated later? Not familiar enough with the rules involving the trading of draft picks

Doesn;t matter when you consummate the deal--with a 2016 pick included the deal would be agreed to by the time that pick is on the clock at the latest--so anything that happens prior to the deal being finalized would have no impact on the deal--or the team pulling that stunt would find it nearly impossible to ever get another team to deal with them ever again.

[Homerclease]

Boston isn't getting that return for Bradley and the 3. It's too much.

It's only too much if you assume the lakers are going to be just as bad next year as this past one. If they max out 2 guys and become a playoff team then it becomes a fairly even trade

It really doesn't. And I wouldn't roll the dice on that.

It really does, unless you are telling me Saric has more value than Bradley despite having never played a game in the NBA and that Noel has more value than the third pick given Phillys roster composition and Noel's salary situation. I consider the 3 to be > Noel and Bradley > Saric so it all really boils down to gambling on the lakers who have openly admitted their tank is over

[wolves_89]

I'm sure when Bryan Colangelo brings up to Danny Ainge,
the 3rd pick in exchange for Noel, Ainge quickly changes the subject
and says: "Let me tell you about the wonders of Marcus Smart.
Even his flops are a work of art."

Yeah, Boston has all the leverage. Philly needs to move out one of the Okafor/Noel tandem,
and they badly need a Big Time PG... and Ainge can deliver one to them.

I could see the 3rd pick being in play if it was Noel and something good... not Philly's picks in the 20s.

Here's a wild trade that gives Philly the best Defensive Backcourt in the NBA:

3 (Dunn) & Bradley for Noel, Saric & the Lakers pick.

Boston isn't getting that return for Bradley and the 3. It's too much.

It's only too much if you assume the lakers are going to be just as bad next year as this past one. If they max out 2 guys and become a playoff team then it becomes a fairly even trade

That's something that factors into the value, but at this point I don't see the Lakers making a big jump in the standing due to free agency. Looking at the FA class there just isn't much of anyone that the Lakers could realistically sign that is going to make much of an impact.

[Andre Roberstan]

It's only too much if you assume the lakers are going to be just as bad next year as this past one. If they max out 2 guys and become a playoff team then it becomes a fairly even trade

It really doesn't. And I wouldn't roll the dice on that.

It really does, unless you are telling me Saric has more value than Bradley despite having never played a game in the NBA and that Noel has more value than the third pick given Phillys roster composition and Noel's salary situation. I consider the 3 to be > Noel and Bradley > Saric so it all really boils down to gambling on the lakers who have openly admitted their tank is over

The Lakers have swung and missed in free agency twice already. They didn't go into this with the expectation of staying tanked.

And I don't know that I'd put the 3 over Noel in this draft. Bradley's better than Saric right now, but for a team on Philly's timetable it makes little sense to trade for Bradley when you can just work with the assets you have. By the time they need a guy like Bradley they'll have their roster developed.

That's part of the reason Noel is being shopped—he doesn't fit the timetable.

[Homerclease]

But the deal is being made now not after free agency. You wouldn't de-value the Nets picks in this manner, would you?

Is it? Or is it being consummated later? Not familiar enough with the rules involving the trading of draft picks

Doesn;t matter when you consummate the deal--with a 2016 pick included the deal would be agreed to by the time that pick is on the clock at the latest--so anything that happens prior to the deal being finalized would have no impact on the deal--or the team pulling that stunt would find it nearly impossible to ever get another team to deal with them ever again.

True, still don't think this deal is as far off as people think. However if LA stinks next year it's a massive blunder by philly and I wouldn't blame them for turning this down based on that

[HartfordWhalers]

The 3rd pick has never played a game either if thats a legit argument for you the otherway....