[Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green

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Green for Horford and picks: your take?

Green means Go: Sixers win. They trade a redundant, expensive luxury for a need and don't have to add that much.
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Green around the gills: Thunder win. They're cycling through productive vets and still adding picks along the way.
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Wait in the Green room: both sides win. Philly improves on the court and OKC improves their stash.
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The Grass is always Green-er: both sides lose. Green is more rep than production, and OKC didn't get paid enough for taking on Horford.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#141 » by jayjaysee » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:23 am

No reason for him not to be in the trade if he picked up his option..
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#142 » by BullyKing » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:27 am

jayjaysee wrote:No reason for him not to be in the trade if he picked up his option..


It does cost the Sixers some money which was presumably one of the reasons for this trade. I feel like if OKC wants to add players so they can operate over the cap then after the trade is complete the Sixers should be able to dump Scott into one of their TPEs for free.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#143 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:33 am

BullyKing wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:No reason for him not to be in the trade if he picked up his option..


It does cost the Sixers some money which was presumably one of the reasons for this trade. I feel like if OKC wants to add players so they can operate over the cap then after the trade is complete the Sixers should be able to dump Scott into one of their TPEs for free.


How about Scott, Zhaire, future 2nd
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#144 » by BullyKing » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:37 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:No reason for him not to be in the trade if he picked up his option..


It does cost the Sixers some money which was presumably one of the reasons for this trade. I feel like if OKC wants to add players so they can operate over the cap then after the trade is complete the Sixers should be able to dump Scott into one of their TPEs for free.


How about Scott, Zhaire, future 2nd


I'm honestly not interested in giving the Thunder any more assets and if this wasn't part of the original trade, I'm not sure why OKC gets to dump Muscala and Roby on Philly. But push to comes to shove I'd give you a bad second to take on Scott. Otherwise might as well see if you can do something productive with his salary.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#145 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:41 am

Lowe Post has Lowe say Marks says Detroit tried to make it a 3 teamer... with no more details.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#146 » by BullyKing » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:43 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:Lowe Post has Lowe say Marks says Detroit tried to make it a 3 teamer... with no more details.


Can't even conceive of what part of this pile of junk they were looking to get a piece of.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#147 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:45 am

BullyKing wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Lowe Post has Lowe say Marks says Detroit tried to make it a 3 teamer... with no more details.


Can't even conceive of what part of this pile of junk they were looking to get a piece of.


The 1st and Horford is my guess. OKC gets expiring Snell and 34 for Green? That would have been my play.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#148 » by BullyKing » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:47 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Lowe Post has Lowe say Marks says Detroit tried to make it a 3 teamer... with no more details.


Can't even conceive of what part of this pile of junk they were looking to get a piece of.


The 1st and Horford is my guess. OKC gets expiring Snell and 34 for Green? That would have been my play.


If that's the case, I think my preference would have been to cut out OKC.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#149 » by jayjaysee » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:48 am

BullyKing wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:No reason for him not to be in the trade if he picked up his option..


It does cost the Sixers some money which was presumably one of the reasons for this trade. I feel like if OKC wants to add players so they can operate over the cap then after the trade is complete the Sixers should be able to dump Scott into one of their TPEs for free.


Feel like Philly saved enough money and adding a bench big that can shoot isn’t a bad thing. Like if he was a free agent, you’d be good with signing him considering the current backup center situation.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#150 » by BullyKing » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:51 am

jayjaysee wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:No reason for him not to be in the trade if he picked up his option..


It does cost the Sixers some money which was presumably one of the reasons for this trade. I feel like if OKC wants to add players so they can operate over the cap then after the trade is complete the Sixers should be able to dump Scott into one of their TPEs for free.


Feel like Philly saved enough money and adding a bench big that can shoot isn’t a bad thing. Like if he was a free agent, you’d be good with signing him considering the current backup center situation.


The problem is that the Sixers would likely end up having to cut someone with a guaranteed contract so it does cost them cash in the end. Maybe OKC sends cash to cover it or something?
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#151 » by BullyKing » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:17 am

Maybe I'm missing something obvious but there has to be more added to this trade right? Otherwise, why couldn't it be completed now if OKC was using the Adams TPE for Horford? Just trade Horford into the TPE. Trade Green into the newly created TPE to Philly. And three seconds later in a separate non-aggregated transaction just dump Ferguson into the remaining Philly TPE.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#152 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:22 am

BullyKing wrote:Maybe I'm missing something obvious but there has to be more added to this trade right? Otherwise, why couldn't it be completed now if OKC was using the Adams TPE for Horford? Just trade Horford into the TPE. Trade Green into the newly created TPE to Philly. And three seconds later in a separate non-aggregated transaction just dump Ferguson into the remaining Philly TPE.


OKC is trying to keep the Adams TPE. I’m not sure what was agreed to between Presti and Morey but obviously there’s a relationship there so I don’t think there’s tension about whatever was worked out. Or uncertainty for them.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#153 » by BullyKing » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:25 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
BullyKing wrote:Maybe I'm missing something obvious but there has to be more added to this trade right? Otherwise, why couldn't it be completed now if OKC was using the Adams TPE for Horford? Just trade Horford into the TPE. Trade Green into the newly created TPE to Philly. And three seconds later in a separate non-aggregated transaction just dump Ferguson into the remaining Philly TPE.


OKC is trying to keep the Adams TPE. I’m not sure what was agreed to between Presti and Morey but obviously there’s a relationship there so I don’t think there’s tension about whatever was worked out. Or uncertainty for them.


That's sort of my point though is that clearly they worked out some addition to the trade for OKC to keep the Adams TPE or this would have been completed immediately after the Adams trade. Here's hoping that the Sixers signing Justin Anderson as a depth defensive wing indicates Hill is being swapped in for Ferguson.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#154 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:28 am

BullyKing wrote:
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BullyKing wrote:Maybe I'm missing something obvious but there has to be more added to this trade right? Otherwise, why couldn't it be completed now if OKC was using the Adams TPE for Horford? Just trade Horford into the TPE. Trade Green into the newly created TPE to Philly. And three seconds later in a separate non-aggregated transaction just dump Ferguson into the remaining Philly TPE.


OKC is trying to keep the Adams TPE. I’m not sure what was agreed to between Presti and Morey but obviously there’s a relationship there so I don’t think there’s tension about whatever was worked out. Or uncertainty for them.


That's sort of my point though is that clearly they worked out some addition to the trade for OKC to keep the Adams TPE or this would have been completed immediately after the Adams trade. Here's hoping that the Sixers signing Justin Anderson as a depth defensive wing indicates Hill is being swapped in for Ferguson.


I saw somewhere that Poirier was being added, but it might have just been a poster on here
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#155 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:01 am

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I saw somewhere that Poirier was being added, but it might have just been a poster on here


Andre Roberstan was posting it on twitter today--his source was in French so I can't speak to exactly what it said, but the gist was Poirier was going to Philly.
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Post#156 » by HartfordWhalers » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:26 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
I saw somewhere that Poirier was being added, but it might have just been a poster on here


Andre Roberstan was posting it on twitter today--his source was in French so I can't speak to exactly what it said, but the gist was Poirier was going to Philly.


It was a couple of places but it doesn’t make the matching work still, unless I’m missing something.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#157 » by HardenToSixers » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:11 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
I saw somewhere that Poirier was being added, but it might have just been a poster on here


Andre Roberstan was posting it on twitter today--his source was in French so I can't speak to exactly what it said, but the gist was Poirier was going to Philly.


It was a couple of places but it doesn’t make the matching work still, unless I’m missing something.

Hill would be nice. Are you going to be a Sixers guy again if Morey starts looking promising?
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#158 » by dakomish23 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 7:24 am

I think CHA could go for Horford if they’re in the playoff mix
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#159 » by getrichordie » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:26 pm

Topic title update anytime soon? You make it sound like Horford and Ferguson plus 2 picks were traded for Green lol.
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Re: [Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green 

Post#160 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:19 pm

If Poirier was involved that’s enough salary to match for Hield and make it a 3 team deal. Not saying it’s going to happen but throw a pick on top and it doesn’t seem outrageous

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