Offseason Brogdon sweepstakes

[Wizop]

Okay, this may get me laughed off the thread, but…Brogdon for All-Star forward Andrew Wiggins? Wiggins is a great defender and is shooting really well. He would also be a large expiring contract.

If Warren doesn't return healthy this year, the Pacers would have to consider this.

[Scoot McGroot]

Okay, this may get me laughed off the thread, but…Brogdon for All-Star forward Andrew Wiggins? Wiggins is a great defender and is shooting really well. He would also be a large expiring contract.

I think the Warriors would consider it if they felt Kuminga was ready to start; he’s been playing great as of late. Draymond’s absence has forced Steph into a pure point guard role. He’s good at it, but his shooting suffers as a result. The more passers in the Warriors system, the better.

If my math is right, the Pacers would have to add at least $4.2 million more to make it work, cap-wise. Goga, maybe?

I get you mean it well, but I think Indy would be looking for more of a long-term answer rather than a guy for a single year. Like, depending on what the draft provides, I'd see a Brogdon for Kuminga swap being more likely than a Brogdon for Wiggins swap. Plus, if we can ever get Warren back healthy (I know, I know), there's just not a need for both Warren and Wiggins, and even if you feel Wiggins is better, he's not better enough to give up Brogdon for the small upgrade.

[giberish]

Okay, this may get me laughed off the thread, but…Brogdon for All-Star forward Andrew Wiggins? Wiggins is a great defender and is shooting really well. He would also be a large expiring contract.

I think the Warriors would consider it if they felt Kuminga was ready to start; he’s been playing great as of late. Draymond’s absence has forced Steph into a pure point guard role. He’s good at it, but his shooting suffers as a result. The more passers in the Warriors system, the better.

If my math is right, the Pacers would have to add at least $4.2 million more to make it work, cap-wise. Goga, maybe?

I get you mean it well, but I think Indy would be looking for more of a long-term answer rather than a guy for a single year. Like, depending on what the draft provides, I'd see a Brogdon for Kuminga swap being more likely than a Brogdon for Wiggins swap. Plus, if we can ever get Warren back healthy (I know, I know), there's just not a need for both Warren and Wiggins, and even if you feel Wiggins is better, he's not better enough to give up Brogdon for the small upgrade.

A Brogdon for Kuminga swap is very much not an option. At all.

I don't see a Brogdon for Wiggins swap as likely either, but Wiggins wouldn't necessarily be a 1 year only option. He's not ancient and Indy could resign him to a reasonable next contract if they wanted. Also, Warren's enough of a SF/PF to play significant minutes alongside Wiggins.

[LightTheBeam]

Are we sure Indiana is really going to tank? Was listening to Hali talk, was saying the management has called this more of a "soft rebuild". Wouldn't surprise me at all if they just had seen enough of LeVert, and wanted to split up the 2 big men.

Brogdan - Hali - Duarte - TJ - Buddy
Warren - Brissett - 1st Round pick (top 5?)
Turner - Jackson - Goga

Wouldn't surprise me at all to see them keep this squad together and shoot for the playoffs next year. Could try to dump Buddy, or move TJ for more wing depth.

[Scoot McGroot]

Okay, this may get me laughed off the thread, but…Brogdon for All-Star forward Andrew Wiggins? Wiggins is a great defender and is shooting really well. He would also be a large expiring contract.

I think the Warriors would consider it if they felt Kuminga was ready to start; he’s been playing great as of late. Draymond’s absence has forced Steph into a pure point guard role. He’s good at it, but his shooting suffers as a result. The more passers in the Warriors system, the better.

If my math is right, the Pacers would have to add at least $4.2 million more to make it work, cap-wise. Goga, maybe?

I get you mean it well, but I think Indy would be looking for more of a long-term answer rather than a guy for a single year. Like, depending on what the draft provides, I'd see a Brogdon for Kuminga swap being more likely than a Brogdon for Wiggins swap. Plus, if we can ever get Warren back healthy (I know, I know), there's just not a need for both Warren and Wiggins, and even if you feel Wiggins is better, he's not better enough to give up Brogdon for the small upgrade.

A Brogdon for Kuminga swap is very much not an option. At all.

I don't see a Brogdon for Wiggins swap as likely either, but Wiggins wouldn't necessarily be a 1 year only option. He's not ancient and Indy could resign him to a reasonable next contract if they wanted. Also, Warren's enough of a SF/PF to play significant minutes alongside Wiggins.

I doubt that Wiggins will come off of making $33.6m, after making an all star team for the first time, and be willing to take much, if any, of a pay cut. Especially with the rising cap. I doubt reasonable will come into play.

[Wizop]

Are we sure Indiana is really going to tank?

are you talking about next year or the balance of this year? this year we're going to be conservative with injuries and play our youth. next year we'll be back to normal trying to get back into the top 4 in the East. we do not tank a whole year on purpose.

[LightTheBeam]

Are we sure Indiana is really going to tank?

are you talking about next year or the balance of this year? this year we're going to be conservative with injuries and play our youth. next year we'll be back to normal trying to get back into the top 4 in the East. we do not tank a whole year on purpose.

Yea, next year is what I was talking about. That's why I'm not so sure Brogdon is going to be moved yet.

[Wizop]

Yea, next year is what I was talking about. That's why I'm not so sure Brogdon is going to be moved yet.

fair point. we really don't know although most assume he won't be happy unless he is on the ball and that's going to be Hali.

[LightTheBeam]

Yea, next year is what I was talking about. That's why I'm not so sure Brogdon is going to be moved yet.

fair point. we really don't know although most assume he won't be happy unless he is on the ball and that's going to be Hali.

We will see. I don't think a ton of teams are going to line up to give him that job. He had by far his most efficient season playing as the 4th guy in Milwaukee. I think he should settle in fine as the 2nd/3rd guy in Indiana.

[jayjaysee]

8 pages in so this is probably suggested but I’ll go

Brogdon and 22nd for KCP and 9ish

I don’t have Brogdon worth 10 on his own, but if you do then leave out the Cavs first.

Brogdon/Beal/Deni/Kuzma/KP feels like a nice fit staggering Deni/Brogdon and adding some defense

[pacers33granger]

8 pages in so this is probably suggested but I’ll go

Brogdon and 22nd for KCP and 9ish

I don’t have Brogdon worth 10 on his own, but if you do then leave out the Cavs first.

Brogdon/Beal/Deni/Kuzma/KP feels like a nice fit staggering Deni/Brogdon and adding some defense

I'd do that. I also don't have Brogdon worth 10 on his own. Not sure Washington wants to go with so much injury history in it's starting lineup though. As a fan of a team who tried it for years, I'd advise against it.

[jayjaysee]

8 pages in so this is probably suggested but I’ll go

Brogdon and 22nd for KCP and 9ish

I don’t have Brogdon worth 10 on his own, but if you do then leave out the Cavs first.

Brogdon/Beal/Deni/Kuzma/KP feels like a nice fit staggering Deni/Brogdon and adding some defense

I'd do that. I also don't have Brogdon worth 10 on his own. Not sure Washington wants to go with so much injury history in it's starting lineup though. As a fan of a team who tried it for years, I'd advise against it.

Yeah, I’d hope they aim higher and finally go “all in” to get Beal a real talented teammate. Just don’t see it happening.

[tcheco]

8 pages in so this is probably suggested but I’ll go

Brogdon and 22nd for KCP and 9ish

I don’t have Brogdon worth 10 on his own, but if you do then leave out the Cavs first.

Brogdon/Beal/Deni/Kuzma/KP feels like a nice fit staggering Deni/Brogdon and adding some defense

I'd do that. I also don't have Brogdon worth 10 on his own. Not sure Washington wants to go with so much injury history in it's starting lineup though. As a fan of a team who tried it for years, I'd advise against it.

If you are Indiana, you kinda have to take that, right? Further clears the Cap space, have two top-10 picks, Hali, Duarte, Turner, Goga. If you can get something for Hield then, even better. Have one year playing the rookie and whoever is left.
Can even give some 1 year big deals for solid veterans(Rubio is already there, just saying) to give proper leadership for the young players. Many possibilities after that

But not sure Wizards would bite that

[pacers33granger]

8 pages in so this is probably suggested but I’ll go

Brogdon and 22nd for KCP and 9ish

I don’t have Brogdon worth 10 on his own, but if you do then leave out the Cavs first.

Brogdon/Beal/Deni/Kuzma/KP feels like a nice fit staggering Deni/Brogdon and adding some defense

I'd do that. I also don't have Brogdon worth 10 on his own. Not sure Washington wants to go with so much injury history in it's starting lineup though. As a fan of a team who tried it for years, I'd advise against it.

If you are Indiana, you kinda have to take that, right? Further clears the Cap space, have two top-10 picks, Hali, Duarte, Turner, Goga. If you can get something for Hield then, even better. Have one year playing the rookie and whoever is left. Many possibilities after that

Yeah, I'd want to get a few vets for the lockerroom, but it really opens things up and allows us to take two swings instead of one that we may not have again for awhile. KCP should definitely have some sort of value too.

[Topofthekey]

Okay, this may get me laughed off the thread, but…Brogdon for All-Star forward Andrew Wiggins? Wiggins is a great defender and is shooting really well. He would also be a large expiring contract.

I think the Warriors would consider it if they felt Kuminga was ready to start; he’s been playing great as of late. Draymond’s absence has forced Steph into a pure point guard role. He’s good at it, but his shooting suffers as a result. The more passers in the Warriors system, the better.

If my math is right, the Pacers would have to add at least $4.2 million more to make it work, cap-wise. Goga, maybe?

I get you mean it well, but I think Indy would be looking for more of a long-term answer rather than a guy for a single year. Like, depending on what the draft provides, I'd see a Brogdon for Kuminga swap being more likely than a Brogdon for Wiggins swap.

I don't think a Kuminga for Brogdon swap is something that Warriors would entertain. Like at all

He's very much seen by Warriors as an integral part of the future of their team. We'd have to add significant value to Brogdon to make them consider the swap. For example, we could add the Cavs pick or our future picks, and they still would probably prefer to keep Kuminga

To make a Brogdon for Kuminga swap acceptable for them, we're talking about adding Duarte at a minimum, or something around that territory, at which point the cost gets prohibitive for us. It's just a no go situation

[Ell Curry]

8 pages in so this is probably suggested but I’ll go

Brogdon and 22nd for KCP and 9ish

I don’t have Brogdon worth 10 on his own, but if you do then leave out the Cavs first.

Brogdon/Beal/Deni/Kuzma/KP feels like a nice fit staggering Deni/Brogdon and adding some defense

I was going to say that this is too little value for Brogdon since he's a better guard than White and they both miss games. But he's also 2 years older and makes 5M more. But I'd guess the Wizards have to throw in a 3rd tiny asset to secure him this summer and not just have the Pacers keep him and try out the season and also try to create a bidding war at the deadline.

[jayjaysee]

I'd do that. I also don't have Brogdon worth 10 on his own. Not sure Washington wants to go with so much injury history in it's starting lineup though. As a fan of a team who tried it for years, I'd advise against it.

If you are Indiana, you kinda have to take that, right? Further clears the Cap space, have two top-10 picks, Hali, Duarte, Turner, Goga. If you can get something for Hield then, even better. Have one year playing the rookie and whoever is left. Many possibilities after that

Yeah, I'd want to get a few vets for the lockerroom, but it really opens things up and allows us to take two swings instead of one that we may not have again for awhile. KCP should definitely have some sort of value too.

And/or a TJ/Ish swap? Maybe throw in Brissett? Not sure about his fit with Kuz/Rui/Deni/Kispert but it’s something.

Not sure what the line would be for over correcting the original value. But I’d love to have TJ as the third guard behind Beal/Brogdon.

[babyjax13]

Would Atlanta make sense for Brogdon?

[MoneyTalks41890]

Would Atlanta make sense for Brogdon?

Yes if they move Huerter. Which probably needs a third team. But ATL has the goodies.

[tcheco]

If you are Indiana, you kinda have to take that, right? Further clears the Cap space, have two top-10 picks, Hali, Duarte, Turner, Goga. If you can get something for Hield then, even better. Have one year playing the rookie and whoever is left. Many possibilities after that

Yeah, I'd want to get a few vets for the lockerroom, but it really opens things up and allows us to take two swings instead of one that we may not have again for awhile. KCP should definitely have some sort of value too.

And/or a TJ/Ish swap? Maybe throw in Brissett? Not sure about his fit with Kuz/Rui/Deni/Kispert but it’s something.

Not sure what the line would be for over correcting the original value. But I’d love to have TJ as the third guard behind Beal/Brogdon.

TJ is a bit of a fan favorite, right? He hustles hard and can play. If I'm Indy, I ask if he rather stay or not. Trading him would be much easier if Rubio is willing to come back(even if Indy has to overpay a little). Seeing how Jazz, Suns and Cavs started big changes after he played with him, hard not to think that he can be of much help with a potencially young team in Indy