Rumors, Random Thoughts, and Non-threadworthy Posts The 19th Hole

[babyjax13]

I think that would be a relatively lateral move.

Think Barrett an upgrade because he cares about basketball. Gives them some play making for their lack of guards but I don't think this move worth tying up an asset over.

I'd still trade Klay, Hardy, and Toronto's choice of Caleb Martin or Naji Marshall for him. Solves some massive issues for Dallas, the lack of playmaking, the need to trim down the roster, and past his expiration Klay starting

Is RJ better than Naji Marshall? Naji just proved he can put up an empty 19/7/4 for extended time on league average TS%. I don't think RJ is capable of being that efficient and otherwise is just as much an empty stats player if feeding him possessions. Naji is also a better defender and is perfectly fine being a role player.

[Godaddycurse]

Think Barrett an upgrade because he cares about basketball. Gives them some play making for their lack of guards but I don't think this move worth tying up an asset over.

I'd still trade Klay, Hardy, and Toronto's choice of Caleb Martin or Naji Marshall for him. Solves some massive issues for Dallas, the lack of playmaking, the need to trim down the roster, and past his expiration Klay starting

Is RJ better than Naji Marshall? Naji just proved he can put up an empty 19/7/4 for extended time on league average TS%. I don't think RJ is capable of being that efficient and otherwise is just as much an empty stats player if feeding him possessions. Naji is also a better defender and is perfectly fine being a role player.

found it amusing this extended time you speak of was only 20 games. RJ had a great run in 23-24 over 30+ games that you dismissed. RJ shot better from distance and was better at playmaking this past year. Naji had better TS thanks to better FT percentage. I think RJ played well as a 3rd option/in a lower usage role. He had a really rough november when he was forced into 1st option due to injuries

[giberish]

Suns probably do RJ for Green right? (one year shorter, 6 mil cheaper this year and better Booker fit)

The Suns talked about Green being their PG, which RJ can't do. Of course Green can't do it either but they may not know that yet.

I don't like RJ's game, but he can handle the ball a bit and distribute.

There's a difference between that and actually running an offense as a PG. That's being a useful secondary ballhandler - teams generally need one or two guys like that on-court in addition to a PG.

[babyjax13]

I'd still trade Klay, Hardy, and Toronto's choice of Caleb Martin or Naji Marshall for him. Solves some massive issues for Dallas, the lack of playmaking, the need to trim down the roster, and past his expiration Klay starting

Is RJ better than Naji Marshall? Naji just proved he can put up an empty 19/7/4 for extended time on league average TS%. I don't think RJ is capable of being that efficient and otherwise is just as much an empty stats player if feeding him possessions. Naji is also a better defender and is perfectly fine being a role player.

found it amusing this extended time you speak of was only 20 games. RJ had a great run in 23-24 over 30+ games that you dismissed. RJ shot better from distance and was better at playmaking this past year. Naji had better TS thanks to better FT percentage. I think RJ played well as a 3rd option/in a lower usage role. He had a really rough november when he was forced into 1st option due to injuries

RJ always reverts to the mean which is just **** efficiency. Marshall scaled up and had the same efficiency he has had over the last two seasons. I don't think RJ is a definitively better player, but he certainly isn't good enough to be paid 3x as much. RJ also had a rough January, March, and April. Sub 55% TS for half the season. He has also always sucked as a FT shooter which is a huge problem given that is the place where he could make up for his middling efficiency everywhere else. I can't believe they paid him that contract.

[babyjax13]

The Suns talked about Green being their PG, which RJ can't do. Of course Green can't do it either but they may not know that yet.

I don't like RJ's game, but he can handle the ball a bit and distribute.

There's a difference between that and actually running an offense as a PG. That's being a useful secondary ballhandler - teams generally need one or two guys like that on-court in addition to a PG.

Sure, but if you are going to ask one of Green or RJ to run your offense, RJ will be better at it.

[jayjaysee]

I assume Brooklyn still has cap space? Way too much of it?

Mann and Boston second(s or maybe one from each team?) to Dallas
Caleb Martin to Boston
Simons, Hardy, Powell to Brooklyn

Dallas gets a better fitting piece and the breathing room for Exum. Maybe a second. Maybe a few seconds.

Brooklyn gets out of the third season of Mann and trims his second season down to 6 million by doubling up the first year.

Boston gets under the tax. (Midseason after they dump roster to 14 players..)

[Godaddycurse]

Is RJ better than Naji Marshall? Naji just proved he can put up an empty 19/7/4 for extended time on league average TS%. I don't think RJ is capable of being that efficient and otherwise is just as much an empty stats player if feeding him possessions. Naji is also a better defender and is perfectly fine being a role player.

found it amusing this extended time you speak of was only 20 games. RJ had a great run in 23-24 over 30+ games that you dismissed. RJ shot better from distance and was better at playmaking this past year. Naji had better TS thanks to better FT percentage. I think RJ played well as a 3rd option/in a lower usage role. He had a really rough november when he was forced into 1st option due to injuries

RJ always reverts to the mean which is just **** efficiency. Marshall scaled up and had the same efficiency he has had over the last two seasons. I don't think RJ is a definitively better player, but he certainly isn't good enough to be paid 3x as much. RJ also had a rough January, March, and April. Sub 55% TS for half the season. He has also always sucked as a FT shooter which is a huge problem given that is the place where he could make up for his middling efficiency everywhere else. I can't believe they paid him that contract.

Yea new york shouldn't have paid him that contract. IQ only played 30 or so games last year. HOpefully RJ looks more like 23-24 w/ IQ/BI/Barnes next to him but we will see (if hes not traded).

[babyjax13]

found it amusing this extended time you speak of was only 20 games. RJ had a great run in 23-24 over 30+ games that you dismissed. RJ shot better from distance and was better at playmaking this past year. Naji had better TS thanks to better FT percentage. I think RJ played well as a 3rd option/in a lower usage role. He had a really rough november when he was forced into 1st option due to injuries

RJ always reverts to the mean which is just **** efficiency. Marshall scaled up and had the same efficiency he has had over the last two seasons. I don't think RJ is a definitively better player, but he certainly isn't good enough to be paid 3x as much. RJ also had a rough January, March, and April. Sub 55% TS for half the season. He has also always sucked as a FT shooter which is a huge problem given that is the place where he could make up for his middling efficiency everywhere else. I can't believe they paid him that contract.

Yea new york shouldn't have paid him that contract. IQ only played 30 or so games last year. HOpefully RJ looks more like 23-24 w/ IQ/BI/Barnes next to him but we will see (if hes not traded).

Ah I thought Toronto extended him. Regardless, the Raptors would be in a better position had they let OG walk, Masai was terrible post Kawhi (if he was making the decisions).

[daoneandonly]

Think Barrett an upgrade because he cares about basketball. Gives them some play making for their lack of guards but I don't think this move worth tying up an asset over.

I'd still trade Klay, Hardy, and Toronto's choice of Caleb Martin or Naji Marshall for him. Solves some massive issues for Dallas, the lack of playmaking, the need to trim down the roster, and past his expiration Klay starting

Is RJ better than Naji Marshall? Naji just proved he can put up an empty 19/7/4 for extended time on league average TS%. I don't think RJ is capable of being that efficient and otherwise is just as much an empty stats player if feeding him possessions. Naji is also a better defender and is perfectly fine being a role player.

I like Naji, but really want to part ways with Klay and Hardy. If sacrificing Naji gets us there, should definitely consider it

[Devilanche]

Should Boston just stretch Simons? It is 13.8 million per year this season and next and gets them under the first apron.

Can't they stretch him at $9.2MM over three years? It has been 2x + 1 years, twice the number of remaining years plus one. Did that change in the new CBA?

I can't imagine why Boston would stretch him. He is a young player on an expiring contract, should be easily traded. I suppose they might not like the return, but if the goal is to cut cap and get under the 2nd apron there are options out there. The Celtics can use salary matching to their advantage if they can find the right combination of a team with space under the Tax and a player/s that work. I just am not sure who wants Simons at this point.

Would Memphis trade KCP for him? KCP has an extra year under contract, but he makes about $6M less than Simons and Memphis has the space under the tax to make it work.

I still like my idea of Marcus Smart for Simons. Then maybe flip Smart to the Bulls for Zach Collins or Huerter. Or an even crazier idea flip Smart to the Hornets for Grant Williams.

Keep trying to flip that contract.
Target either 2 years deal on cheaper per year salary or cheaper expiring.

Lose out on the on field talent . Once you have no further trade only then consider stretching that contract .

[Texas Chuck]

Am I going to take one summer league game and go full homer on Ryan Nembhard? Probably

[Crazy-Canuck]

Am I going to take one summer league game and go full homer on Ryan Nembhard? Probably

It worked for okc and their Canadian lead guard

[Godaddycurse]

Am I going to take one summer league game and go full homer on Ryan Nembhard? Probably

It worked for okc and their Canadian lead guard

Shai's 1st summer league was with clippers, not okc..

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Am I going to take one summer league game and go full homer on Ryan Nembhard? Probably

Modern day Steve Nash /green.

But seriously his play making skills nba worthy.

[gswhoops]

Klay Thompson dating Megan Thee Stallion. Reports of his washedness proven wildly premature.

[daoneandonly]

Am I going to take one summer league game and go full homer on Ryan Nembhard? Probably

Hopefully we dont jinx it, but this is why I didnt want to re-sign Exum, I thought Ryan had the skills to be in the rotation. I was hoping Dalals would move into the 2nd round to get him or Proctor, so was happy they got him via FA

[daoneandonly]

Klay Thompson dating Megan Thee Stallion. Reports of his washedness proven wildly premature.

Hasnt shot over 40% from 3 in 3 of the last 4 years. Seeing how he cant dribble, pass, facilitate, drive, and now defend like he used to, ehh.

Not to mention for someone who whined about not getting paid and starting in GS, sure would have been nice if the leader he thinks he is was there yesterday to support Cooper and the young summer league team.

[K_chile22]

Klay Thompson dating Megan Thee Stallion. Reports of his washedness proven wildly premature.

Hasnt shot over 40% from 3 in 3 of the last 4 years. Seeing how he cant dribble, pass, facilitate, drive, and now defend like he used to, ehh.

Not to mention for someone who whined about not getting paid and starting in GS, sure would have been nice if the leader he thinks he is was there yesterday to support Cooper and the young summer league team.

Hanging out with Meg the stallion is a valid reason to not be there I can't lie

[daoneandonly]

Klay Thompson dating Megan Thee Stallion. Reports of his washedness proven wildly premature.

Hasnt shot over 40% from 3 in 3 of the last 4 years. Seeing how he cant dribble, pass, facilitate, drive, and now defend like he used to, ehh.

Not to mention for someone who whined about not getting paid and starting in GS, sure would have been nice if the leader he thinks he is was there yesterday to support Cooper and the young summer league team.

Hanging out with Meg the stallion is a valid reason to not be there I can't lie

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, respectfully, I don't see it at all. I'd take basketball and the money that comes with that over a supposed stallion

[In-N-Out 247]

Spotrac is like my salary cap bible - so thought this was interesting. They finally updated the Devin Booker extension, it had been reported weeks ago but was obviously not finalized (we'll at least not to the point that the folks at Spotrac felt comfortable putting on their site). They used the 27/28 cap projection to calculate the extension that starts in the 28/29 season. So their contract of 2 years $133M is currently wrong. I am sure they'll see the mistake at some point and fix it, but I guess they make mistakes as well.

Quick edit - I feel like someone that posts on this board is involved with Spotrac, so maybe they'll see this and help to get that fixed.

Just wanted to circle back on this. So looks like Spotrac is projecting the cap to only go up 5% in the 2027/28 & 2028/29 seasons. Is there any basis for this? Everyone else that I have seen - specifically Bobby Marks & Shams are projecting 10% increases those years based on the contract amounts of the extensions for SGA & Booker. The league specifically stated the 2026/27 season will only go up 7%, but not sure if there was any news on this lower projection for the following 2 years.