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[HartfordWhalers]

I have BB as a negative value. I wouldnt want to trade Smart for him.

Sacramento turned down BB on his contract for free this summer. Yes, it’s the Kings, but BB’s season this year hasnt done anything to change things IMO.

I have teams willing to take Bogdan for an expiring. Not offering more, but for an expiring.

[Dadouv47]

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''and'' should be replaced by ''or'' here

[Texas Chuck]

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I can't imagine Dallas would just sell him. But if they want in on something bigger and thus need to round up a draft pick, he's a decent tool for that. His contract means a contender would likely supply a fairly strongly protected 1st for him (lotto, top 18, something like that) I think.

[Buzzard]

And Smarts importance will be on full display without Hayward or Horfords' efficiency holding him up by his jockstrap.

Smart looked great defensively without Horford. And Hayward is not someone who boosts someone's defensive rep.

Are you just trying to use inflammatory rhetoric? I really don't get the point of comments like this.

I am logically speaking of the teams loss in efficiency which Smart as a inefficient player cannot make up. Logic my man. Hayward was more important than Smart in my opinion. But a lot of the rhetoric reads the other way.

Smart has way less value than others give him due to his weak offense. Your trade of Okongwu, Reddish, and Bogdan only reinforces that for me.

[Buzzard]

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I can't imagine Dallas would just sell him. But if they want in on something bigger and thus need to round up a draft pick, he's a decent tool for that. His contract means a contender would likely supply a fairly strongly protected 1st for him (lotto, top 18, something like that) I think.

This is much more of a honest tweet than the BR garbage. Interest in a player does not mean the team is shopping him.

[HartfordWhalers]

And Smarts importance will be on full display without Hayward or Horfords' efficiency holding him up by his jockstrap.

Smart looked great defensively without Horford. And Hayward is not someone who boosts someone's defensive rep.

Are you just trying to use inflammatory rhetoric? I really don't get the point of comments like this.

I am logically speaking of the teams loss in efficiency which Smart as a inefficient player cannot make up. Logic my man. Hayward was more important than Smart in my opinion. But a lot of the rhetoric reads the other way.

Smart has way less value than others give him due to his weak offense. Your trade of Okongwu, Reddish, and Bogdan only reinforces that for me.

Declaring that because you think something a second time, isn't evidence you were right the first time. That is 'logic my man".

Smart's been one of the best defensive guards in the league.
Trae has been one of the worst.

According to Sham's, Atlanta is interested in Smart.

Most of us can see why. Others just post ... hyperbole.

[HartfordWhalers]

I have Atlanta's trade value as in order:

Collins (I have him worth a lot and not at all likely to be traded)
Okongku (mid lotto pick; hasn't shown much but wasn't expected to. But down in value off the you don't get to pick your own guy at least, if not rookie scale slowly ticking).
Atlanta 1st (it is a mid 1st)
Atlanta future lotto protected 1st
Reddish (Knox like flier value).

I would be curious where in that scaling most people put Smart; with obviously some bias expected from posters of both teams so insight from fans of neither appreciated =)

[aguiar95]

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I can't imagine Dallas would just sell him. But if they want in on something bigger and thus need to round up a draft pick, he's a decent tool for that. His contract means a contender would likely supply a fairly strongly protected 1st for him (lotto, top 18, something like that) I think.

I know it's a business and all, but it would be a kneejerk move if we traded him days after his son's birth. Especially considering the "we love our boys in blue" and "continuity" mentality we had the last couple of years.

[Buzzard]

Smart looked great defensively without Horford. And Hayward is not someone who boosts someone's defensive rep.

Are you just trying to use inflammatory rhetoric? I really don't get the point of comments like this.

I am logically speaking of the teams loss in efficiency which Smart as a inefficient player cannot make up. Logic my man. Hayward was more important than Smart in my opinion. But a lot of the rhetoric reads the other way.

Smart has way less value than others give him due to his weak offense. Your trade of Okongwu, Reddish, and Bogdan only reinforces that for me.

Declaring that because you think something a second time, isn't evidence you were right the first time. That is 'logic my man".

Smart's been one of the best defensive guards in the league.
Trae has been one of the worst.

According to Sham's, Atlanta is interested in Smart.

Most of us can see why. Others just post ... hyperbole.

I believe the Hawks interest is real. I do like Ball better. I don't think Atl offers a kings ransom like your proposal. I don't think they give that up for Ball much less Smart.

[BadWolf]

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Guess Magic will HODL

[Texas Chuck]

I know it's a business and all, but it would be a kneejerk move if we traded him days after his son's birth. Especially considering the "we love our boys in blue" and "continuity" mentality we had the last couple of years.

Not sure knee jerk is the right term you are looking for. Cold maybe, but it would definitely be a calculated move trying to upgrade the team. The idea would not be to get off of Dorian, but to get an asset that led to something better.

[BadWolf]

btw, Bogda, Okogwu for Smart, fillers (Nesmith or Langford or...) makes a lot of sense

[Buzzard]

I have Atlanta's trade value as in order:

Collins (I have him worth a lot and not at all likely to be traded)
Okongku (mid lotto pick; hasn't shown much but wasn't expected to. But down in value off the you don't get to pick your own guy at least, if not rookie scale slowly ticking).
Atlanta 1st (it is a mid 1st)
Atlanta future lotto protected 1st
Reddish (Knox like flier value).

I would be curious where in that scaling most people put Smart; with obviously some bias expected from posters of both teams so insight from fans of neither appreciated =)

No rumors involving Okongwu. This indicates to me he is not on the market and his value is steady at around a top 5 pick.
I would not trade Okongwu for Smart.

No rumors involving this seasons pick. Schlenk values his ability to find talent. It would probably take a mini blockbuster to get him to move a pick and player.

Reddish value has taken a hit. I still think Schlenk values him as a defensive wing with upside. But the hit cannot be ignored.

I could see Reddish and the Atl pick being the starting offer for Ball and Smart. It would take a little more salary, so maybe Dunn or Rondo.

[bondom34]

Yeah that's not remotely close for Smart. Maybe Ball only because I don't see his value that high

[Buzzard]

Yeah that's not remotely close for Smart. Maybe Ball only because I don't see his value that high

I am totally opposite. I like Ball better than Smart.

[HartfordWhalers]

If I'm NOP, I think I pull the trigger on Reddish/Dunn as filler/Atl 1s for Ball.

[Texas Chuck]

I mean otoh we are told Travis never ever leaks so names not being mentioned are really irrelevant to who might be offered, but otoh self-serving player valuations is always the best use of this board and not say a fansite so....

[bondom34]

Yep, if you're trading for Ball you're doing it knowing he's getting paid a ton. Like probably twice what Smart makes.

And I like Ball a lot too, but Smart has been one of Boston's beat players for a while and makes relatively little. Would think it's at least two firsts for him to even get a discussion. But who knows, I don't think he's be available to start.

[SmartWentCrazy]

And Smarts importance will be on full display without Hayward or Horfords' efficiency holding him up by his jockstrap.

Smart looked great defensively without Horford. And Hayward is not someone who boosts someone's defensive rep.

Are you just trying to use inflammatory rhetoric? I really don't get the point of comments like this.

I am logically speaking of the teams loss in efficiency which Smart as a inefficient player cannot make up. Logic my man. Hayward was more important than Smart in my opinion. But a lot of the rhetoric reads the other way.

Smart has way less value than others give him due to his weak offense. Your trade of Okongwu, Reddish, and Bogdan only reinforces that for me.

Why is Smart’s efficiency considered a negative while Reddish or Bogdanovic’s worse efficiency is ignored? Especially with Trae to generate them open looks and improve things for them?

[daoneandonly]

I have Atlanta's trade value as in order:

Collins (I have him worth a lot and not at all likely to be traded)
Okongku (mid lotto pick; hasn't shown much but wasn't expected to. But down in value off the you don't get to pick your own guy at least, if not rookie scale slowly ticking).
Atlanta 1st (it is a mid 1st)
Atlanta future lotto protected 1st
Reddish (Knox like flier value).

I would be curious where in that scaling most people put Smart; with obviously some bias expected from posters of both teams so insight from fans of neither appreciated =)

Smart is definitely worth more than Okogku and those pieces below. I personally think he has more value than Collins, but can see a team really giving up a lot for Collins due to his age, bird rights, and playing a position that doesnt have a lot of quality guys