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Post#1541 » by NYG » Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:24 am

Could Turner and KAT co-exist? Prince, Okogie and 2 conditional picks?

Would Orlando make sense for LeVert? Harris and 2nd?
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Post#1542 » by pacers33granger » Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:27 am

NYG wrote:Could Turner and KAT co-exist?


Yes

NYG wrote:Prince, Okogie and 2 conditional picks?


No. Indy will not prioritize picks for either big. Picks are fine, but a decent player likely needs to be involved for Indy to bite.

NYG wrote:Would Orlando make sense for LeVert?


Not for Orlando.

NYG wrote: Harris and 2nd?


Done for Indy.
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Post#1543 » by NYG » Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:32 am

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NYG wrote:Could Turner and KAT co-exist?


Yes

NYG wrote:Prince, Okogie and 2 conditional picks?


No. Indy will not prioritize picks for either big. Picks are fine, but a decent player likely needs to be involved for Indy to bite.

NYG wrote:Would Orlando make sense for LeVert?


Not for Orlando.

NYG wrote: Harris and 2nd?


Done for Indy.


Rui and Bryant based concept for Turner or Sabonis?
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Post#1544 » by pacers33granger » Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:35 am

NYG wrote:Rui and Bryant based concept for Turner or Sabonis?


Doubtful. Bryant is still injured, wouldn't get minutes, and would in no way be seen as part of the future. Rui is interesting, but he too hasn't played and wouldn't be enough on his own if he were playing.
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Post#1545 » by NYG » Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:56 am

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NYG wrote:Rui and Bryant based concept for Turner or Sabonis?


Doubtful. Bryant is still injured, wouldn't get minutes, and would in no way be seen as part of the future. Rui is interesting, but he too hasn't played and wouldn't be enough on his own if he were playing.


One more shot...

Patrick Williams, Coby White and Troy Brown Jr.?

If not, who are a few realistic prospects you like?
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Post#1546 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:19 am

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pacers33granger wrote:
NYG wrote:Could Turner and KAT co-exist?


Yes

NYG wrote:Prince, Okogie and 2 conditional picks?


No. Indy will not prioritize picks for either big. Picks are fine, but a decent player likely needs to be involved for Indy to bite.

NYG wrote:Would Orlando make sense for LeVert?


Not for Orlando.

NYG wrote: Harris and 2nd?


Done for Indy.


Rui and Bryant based concept for Turner or Sabonis?


Bryant would hold little to no value in Indy other than as an expiring contract. But a healthy and active Rui is certainly a piece.

What’s up with Rui? Why’s he been out?
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Post#1547 » by NYG » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:23 am

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NYG wrote:Rui and Bryant based concept for Turner or Sabonis?


Bryant would hold little to no value in Indy other than as an expiring contract. But a healthy and active Rui is certainly a piece.

What’s up with Rui? Why’s he been out?


I'm not sure honestly, I'm a Knicks fan so I haven't really followed it. I like Rui's upside... and yeah, Bryant is filler that would be bought out.
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Post#1548 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:24 am

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NYG wrote:Rui and Bryant based concept for Turner or Sabonis?


Doubtful. Bryant is still injured, wouldn't get minutes, and would in no way be seen as part of the future. Rui is interesting, but he too hasn't played and wouldn't be enough on his own if he were playing.


One more shot...

Patrick Williams, Coby White and Troy Brown Jr.?

If not, who are a few realistic prospects you like?


Williams is a GREAT prospect, at least, to me he is. :lol:

But the filler isn’t a great fit. We probably like Kelan better than Brown, so it’d suck to have to waive him. And we unfortunately need Wannamaker as a PG right now, which Coby just hasn’t exhibited the ability to play reliably, so waiving him would hurt, too.

But ultimately, I’d really consider it.

I really love Williams, though.
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Post#1549 » by Diop » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:25 am

Surely Charlotte can get a centre now, one of Nurkic, Sabonis or Turner.

Hayward while still good, has become a little expendable thanks to the play of Ball, Bridges and Oubre
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Post#1550 » by NYG » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:28 am

Scoot McGroot wrote:
NYG wrote:
pacers33granger wrote:
Doubtful. Bryant is still injured, wouldn't get minutes, and would in no way be seen as part of the future. Rui is interesting, but he too hasn't played and wouldn't be enough on his own if he were playing.


One more shot...

Patrick Williams, Coby White and Troy Brown Jr.?

If not, who are a few realistic prospects you like?


Williams is a GREAT prospect, at least, to me he is. :lol:

But the filler isn’t a great fit. We probably like Kelan better than Brown, so it’d suck to have to waive him. And we unfortunately need Wannamaker as a PG right now, which Coby just hasn’t exhibited the ability to play reliably, so waiving him would hurt, too.

But ultimately, I’d really consider it.

I really love Williams, though.


Boucher for TBJ and 2nd in a 3-team deal and just give Coby a shot?
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Post#1551 » by NYG » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:30 am

Scoot McGroot wrote:.


I honestly think Indiana may just revisit the whole big man thing altogether and trade BOTH of Sabonis and Turner while getting a good return from both trades.

What do you think the odds of that is?
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Post#1552 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:33 am

NYG wrote:
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I honestly think Indiana may just revisit the whole big man thing altogether and trade BOTH of Sabonis and Turner while getting a good return from both trades.

What do you think the odds of that is?


Probably really, really low.


Judging by the meeting that Levert, Brogdon, Turner, and Sabonis had with Carlisle and Pritchard today at practice, this also may be somewhat of a motivational ploy to come together and play united, and maybe none of them are moved. Or, the offers could be terrible?
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Post#1553 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:38 am

NYG wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
NYG wrote:
One more shot...

Patrick Williams, Coby White and Troy Brown Jr.?

If not, who are a few realistic prospects you like?


Williams is a GREAT prospect, at least, to me he is. :lol:

But the filler isn’t a great fit. We probably like Kelan better than Brown, so it’d suck to have to waive him. And we unfortunately need Wannamaker as a PG right now, which Coby just hasn’t exhibited the ability to play reliably, so waiving him would hurt, too.

But ultimately, I’d really consider it.

I really love Williams, though.


Boucher for TBJ and 2nd in a 3-team deal and just give Coby a shot?


Oh, certainly not. I think we’d rather just let Jackson/Goga absorb Turner’s 29 minutes per night, as we still have Brissett and Torrey Craig at the 4. I’m not seeing a great fit for Boucher, especially for just part of one year, and if we have to pay a 2nd to do so. Backup PG would be MUCH more the worry than Boucher. Again, mostly just the expiring filler.
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Post#1554 » by NYG » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:52 am

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NYG wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
Williams is a GREAT prospect, at least, to me he is. :lol:

But the filler isn’t a great fit. We probably like Kelan better than Brown, so it’d suck to have to waive him. And we unfortunately need Wannamaker as a PG right now, which Coby just hasn’t exhibited the ability to play reliably, so waiving him would hurt, too.

But ultimately, I’d really consider it.

I really love Williams, though.


Boucher for TBJ and 2nd in a 3-team deal and just give Coby a shot?


Oh, certainly not. I think we’d rather just let Jackson/Goga absorb Turner’s 29 minutes per night, as we still have Brissett and Torrey Craig at the 4. I’m not seeing a great fit for Boucher, especially for just part of one year, and if we have to pay a 2nd to do so. Backup PG would be MUCH more the worry than Boucher. Again, mostly just the expiring filler.


Which third team could you see providing something Indy could use for TBJ and Coby?

From Chicago's perspective, how do you like Vucevic/Turner/DeRozan/LaVine/Ball?
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Post#1555 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Dec 8, 2021 5:22 am

NYG wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
NYG wrote:
Boucher for TBJ and 2nd in a 3-team deal and just give Coby a shot?


Oh, certainly not. I think we’d rather just let Jackson/Goga absorb Turner’s 29 minutes per night, as we still have Brissett and Torrey Craig at the 4. I’m not seeing a great fit for Boucher, especially for just part of one year, and if we have to pay a 2nd to do so. Backup PG would be MUCH more the worry than Boucher. Again, mostly just the expiring filler.


Which third team could you see providing something Indy could use for TBJ and Coby?
. No idea. Don’t think I’d have to figure it out though. Chicago likely would.


From Chicago's perspective, how do you like Vucevic/Turner/DeRozan/LaVine/Ball?


I don’t really have a Chicago perspective. Sorry.
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Post#1556 » by DoItALL9 » Wed Dec 8, 2021 6:49 am

Cavaliers have any interest in bringing home (state) CJ McCollum?


CJ McCollum for Collin Sexton & Kevin Love

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Post#1557 » by Commodor » Wed Dec 8, 2021 7:13 am

Has Beasley, McDaniels & protected pick been discussed for Turner?

Beasley has had a rough time adjusting to Edwards’ ascension but he’s year removed from 19ppg & 40% from 3 on 9 shots & is 25. Also seems like a nice fit with Brogdon. McDaniels probably won’t ever be anything special but can play next to Sabonis. Add in some draft capital and could be decent.
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Post#1558 » by gambitx777 » Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:26 pm

Wonder if Indiana is gonna come in and be a player in the Ben sweepstakes

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Post#1559 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:08 pm

Commodor wrote:Has Beasley, McDaniels & protected pick been discussed for Turner?

Beasley has had a rough time adjusting to Edwards’ ascension but he’s year removed from 19ppg & 40% from 3 on 9 shots & is 25. Also seems like a nice fit with Brogdon. McDaniels probably won’t ever be anything special but can play next to Sabonis. Add in some draft capital and could be decent.


Not terribly, but it’s close to the best Minnesota can offer. I think Indy would want Beverley instead of Beasley, as we have dire need of a PG for the rest of this season with McConnell out.

Also, the drafting and solid play of our (24 year old) lotto pick Chris Duarte would probably make Beasley less interesting. He’s not too expensive, but he’d probably be coming off the bench behind Duarte this year or next, at the latest.
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Post#1560 » by Commodor » Wed Dec 8, 2021 4:43 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Commodor wrote:Has Beasley, McDaniels & protected pick been discussed for Turner?

Beasley has had a rough time adjusting to Edwards’ ascension but he’s year removed from 19ppg & 40% from 3 on 9 shots & is 25. Also seems like a nice fit with Brogdon. McDaniels probably won’t ever be anything special but can play next to Sabonis. Add in some draft capital and could be decent.


Not terribly, but it’s close to the best Minnesota can offer. I think Indy would want Beverley instead of Beasley, as we have dire need of a PG for the rest of this season with McConnell out.

Also, the drafting and solid play of our (24 year old) lotto pick Chris Duarte would probably make Beasley less interesting. He’s not too expensive, but he’d probably be coming off the bench behind Duarte this year or next, at the latest.


Yeah Duarte seems to be the real roadblock here but on the flip side, one can never have too many shooters.

Interesting you would want Beverly but I get the reasoning. I would think he would be at most throw in salary filler and not much value.

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