Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc... 7.0

[babyjax13]

I think that takes some integrity to do.

Or being the number 2 owner and forcing the number 1 to sell can only be good for you? I'm not sure I'm more or less positive on it as a motived value judged course of action based off knowing who he is, but I'm seeing it as a lot more unstable for a franchise situation even if the minority owner is in practice fully and absolutely powerless as I believer they have always been.

He said - and I quote - "I have no interest in becoming managing partner" - he's being very careful about avoiding this specific accusation.

[MoneyTalks41890]

I think that takes some integrity to do.

Or being the number 2 owner and forcing the number 1 to sell can only be good for you? I'm not sure I'm more or less positive on it as a motived value judged course of action based off knowing who he is, but I'm seeing it as a lot more unstable for a franchise situation even if the minority owner is in practice fully and absolutely powerless as I believer they have always been.

He said - and I quote - "I have no interest in becoming managing partner" - he's being very careful about avoiding this specific accusation.

Hm statement leaves room for other interested motivations

[babyjax13]

Or being the number 2 owner and forcing the number 1 to sell can only be good for you? I'm not sure I'm more or less positive on it as a motived value judged course of action based off knowing who he is, but I'm seeing it as a lot more unstable for a franchise situation even if the minority owner is in practice fully and absolutely powerless as I believer they have always been.

He said - and I quote - "I have no interest in becoming managing partner" - he's being very careful about avoiding this specific accusation.

Hm statement leaves room for other interested motivations

Sure, but that's going to be the case no matter what. Either we can take people as meaning what they say, or we can always infer that they have insidious motives. Regardless, it's big news.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

I think that takes some integrity to do.

Or being the number 2 owner and forcing the number 1 to sell can only be good for you? I'm not sure I'm more or less positive on it as a motived value judged course of action based off knowing who he is, but I'm seeing it as a lot more unstable for a franchise situation even if the minority owner is in practice fully and absolutely powerless as I believer they have always been.

Define good for you. Firing the managing partner to buy his share is buying yourself a job you might not want.

[HartfordWhalers]

I think that takes some integrity to do.

Or being the number 2 owner and forcing the number 1 to sell can only be good for you? I'm not sure I'm more or less positive on it as a motived value judged course of action based off knowing who he is, but I'm seeing it as a lot more unstable for a franchise situation even if the minority owner is in practice fully and absolutely powerless as I believer they have always been.

Define good for you. Firing the managing partner to buy his share is buying yourself a job you might not want.

Minority owners typically have zero control or say, and if is a team is losing money just get a bill. You aren't riding shotgun so much as in the way back. Getting a better driver you like more alone would be good for you.

But also for instance in the Twolves ownership if the majority shareholder cashes out, the minority owners are contractually promised the ability to sell at the same price. So, generating a new sale could be beneficial even if he wasn't planning on bidding for the team, but perhaps was selling or just wanted better main owners.

[Diop]

if the 12 month suspension and $10 million fine works and causes Sarver to reflect, improve his behaviour and other management follows suit.

Wouldn't that mean the punishment was correct? Isn't the point to cause correction?

[zimpy27]

Or being the number 2 owner and forcing the number 1 to sell can only be good for you? I'm not sure I'm more or less positive on it as a motived value judged course of action based off knowing who he is, but I'm seeing it as a lot more unstable for a franchise situation even if the minority owner is in practice fully and absolutely powerless as I believer they have always been.

Define good for you. Firing the managing partner to buy his share is buying yourself a job you might not want.

Minority owners typically have zero control or say, and if is a team is losing money just get a bill. You aren't riding shotgun so much as in the way back. Getting a better driver you like more alone would be good for you.

But also for instance in the Twolves ownership if the majority shareholder cashes out, the minority owners are contractually promised the ability to sell at the same price. So, generating a new sale could be beneficial even if he wasn't planning on bidding for the team, but perhaps was selling or just wanted better main owners.

Cynically it could be that
"Person with a lot of money invested in a franchise that is considered a contender is unhappy with the damage the current major owner could be doing to that franchise by staying on."

[kobe_vs_jordan]

if the 12 month suspension and $10 million fine works and causes Sarver to reflect, improve his behaviour and other management follows suit.

Wouldn't that mean the punishment was correct? Isn't the point to cause correction?

A 60 year old man needs to be punished to think about his behavior? I have a hard time believing he going to change at this point.

[Texas Chuck]

if the 12 month suspension and $10 million fine works and causes Sarver to reflect, improve his behaviour and other management follows suit.

Wouldn't that mean the punishment was correct? Isn't the point to cause correction?

A 60 year old man needs to be punished to think about his behavior? I have a hard time believing he going to change at this point.

We can all change.

But I don't think the intent here by the NBA is to rehab Sarver. The intent is to send a message that we don't tolerate this sort of behavior.

The NBA is in a tough spot because Sarver is one of Silver's bosses. But in any other industry Sarver would have been gone. Even in cases where these guys have large ownership shares the boards ultimately force them out for the good of the business as their responsibility dictates.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Suns are getting hit in the wallet now

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[kobe_vs_jordan]

Sponsors and Investors applying more pressure to get Sarver out of there than the NBA.

[HartfordWhalers]

Kia sounds fine with Sarver staying

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[HornetJail]

Suns are getting hit in the wallet now

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missed a golden opportunity to work your username into this

[Laimbeer]

Not worth a thread, and I may have posted it earlier. Noel for Saric. Noel is absurdly redundant with Stewart, Duren, and Bagley. Phoenix gets a backup center.

[babyjax13]

Schroeder signing with LA makes Conley going there unlikely. Could still see something like Bojan + Beasley + Gay for Westbrook + 1st.

[shrink]

Kia sounds fine with Sarver staying

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I am fascinated how battle lines get drawn here. Kia supports the Suns, but they have a bigger deal with the entire NBA. The NBA gave out the punishment, and Sarver is 1/30th of it’s owners, and one of Silver’s bosses. Some consider the players to be partners with the NBA, yet some of their spokesmen denounced the punishment. A minority owner wants Sarver gone.

If I’m being cynical, I believe that each party is acting in their own self-interest, trying to position themselves to improve their standing with onlookers for other reasons, or at least avoid the stain of Sarver falling on themselves too. But who each decides to align with and how they spin it (Kia stands with the nba and it’s fans in punishing Sarver) is interesting stuff.

[HartfordWhalers]

Suns are getting hit in the wallet now

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missed a golden opportunity to work your username into this

About to create 100 alts just to and 1 this.

Except the effort and that I am still struggling on naming my fantasy football.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Kia sounds fine with Sarver staying

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I am fascinated how battle lines get drawn here. Kia supports the Suns, but they have a bigger deal with the entire NBA. The NBA gave out the punishment, and Sarver is 1/30th of it’s owners, and one of Silver’s bosses. Some consider the players to be partners with the NBA, yet some of their spokesmen denounced the punishment. A minority owner wants Sarver gone.

If I’m being cynical, I believe that each party is acting in their own self-interest, trying to position themselves to improve their standing with onlookers for other reasons, or at least avoid the stain of Sarver falling on themselves too. But who each decides to align with and how they spin it (Kia stands with the nba and it’s fans in punishing Sarver) is interesting stuff.

I think this is usually a safe bet.

But in all seriousness, totally agree. I mean you'll notice PayPal is saying "if he's still there next year" they are notably not looking to get their patch off the jersey this year, which would seem more principled, but also have real costs.

[zimpy27]

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Westbrook is either gone or they are seriously trying to turn him into an SG/SF

[esvl]

A bunch of old farts (very knowledgeable though) are discussing the Greatest Old Fart of out time. The irony is that very few if anyone younger 40 actually care about him and even less what he thinks.