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Post#1581 » by Devilanche » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:20 am

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Troubadour wrote:Where is Goran Dragic getting traded? The delay on this sign and trade seems to be on that side of things.


OKC needs to use the 27.5m Adams TPE by the 9th, so I’d expect them to be involved somehow.


Imagine there's a price to pay for that and don't know who foots that bill.


Presti like them picks and he doesn’t even try to overcharge for cap
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Post#1582 » by Troubadour » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:20 am

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Troubadour wrote:Where is Goran Dragic getting traded? The delay on this sign and trade seems to be on that side of things.


Agreed. Is New Orleans still in or is Sato their stopgap guy? Is Dallas still in? I think if they send out WCS/Burke they can fit their signings into exceptions and just have the cap space to do it. Of course that costs them the full MLE and the Richardson TPE so hopefully if Dallas is in they are insisting on Powell.

Who else might want him?


Sato can't be the big get for Zion this summer, so that would be interesting. Jake Fischer on Spaces just said Dallas was the most common name he's heard around the league, but Toronto reporters are doubting the Raptors like Precious Achiuwa enough to wipe out $20M in cap space for Dragic. End goal seems to be Richaun Holmes to the Raptors somehow.
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Post#1583 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:21 am

mademan wrote:Have the Pelicans gotten anybody yet? They paid to move off some contracts, lost Ball for absolutely nothing and theyve yet to make a real signing? Honestly dont know what theyre doing


They're getting Sato, Temple, and a 2nd for Ball in a S&T. Temple will be a GREAT vet to have in that locker room with those guys. Sato is a solid steadying vet at the 1-3. Nothing flashy, but it's useful. Especially if Lewis is anywhere close to getting some minutes.
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Post#1584 » by HartfordWhalers » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:21 am

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Troubadour wrote:Where is Goran Dragic getting traded? The delay on this sign and trade seems to be on that side of things.


OKC needs to use the 27.5m Adams TPE by the 9th, so I’d expect them to be involved somehow.


I just assume they are a cap space team and the tpe's are already effectively done. After all, taking on enough to get over the cap and keep all the tpe's would leave them without the tpe's, right?
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Post#1585 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:23 am

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Troubadour wrote:Where is Goran Dragic getting traded? The delay on this sign and trade seems to be on that side of things.


OKC needs to use the 27.5m Adams TPE by the 9th, so I’d expect them to be involved somehow.


I just assume they are a cap space team and the tpe's are already effectively done. After all, taking on enough to get over the cap and keep all the tpe's would leave them without the tpe's, right?


They’d probably have about 15m or so left I think in parts, maybe 20. I think they just go whichever route provides the better return. Could be a FA, not sure whom though.
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Post#1586 » by Devilanche » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:26 am

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OKC needs to use the 27.5m Adams TPE by the 9th, so I’d expect them to be involved somehow.


I just assume they are a cap space team and the tpe's are already effectively done. After all, taking on enough to get over the cap and keep all the tpe's would leave them without the tpe's, right?


They’d probably have about 15m or so left I think in parts, maybe 20. I think they just go whichever route provides the better return. Could be a FA, not sure whom though.


I thought we still have the full 27?
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Post#1587 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:29 am

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I just assume they are a cap space team and the tpe's are already effectively done. After all, taking on enough to get over the cap and keep all the tpe's would leave them without the tpe's, right?


They’d probably have about 15m or so left I think in parts, maybe 20. I think they just go whichever route provides the better return. Could be a FA, not sure whom though.


I thought we still have the full 27?


If they use the 27 and the other TPEs to get above the cap, how much do they have left in TPEs to go over? I believe it’s 15m roughly.
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Post#1588 » by Devilanche » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:32 am

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They’d probably have about 15m or so left I think in parts, maybe 20. I think they just go whichever route provides the better return. Could be a FA, not sure whom though.


I thought we still have the full 27?


If they use the 27 and the other TPEs to get above the cap, how much do they have left in TPEs to go over? I believe it’s 15m roughly.


I believe we still have adams 27, Ariza 12 and George hill 10 . Don’t think we can feasibly use all 3 by end of free agency . Maybe some at trade deadline .

This is assuming we don’t use MLE etc cause don’t see us able to sign anyone for that amount.
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Post#1589 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:36 am

Seeing Nets now out on Mills, Lakers and Warriors in pursuit.
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Post#1590 » by mademan » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:37 am

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mademan wrote:Have the Pelicans gotten anybody yet? They paid to move off some contracts, lost Ball for absolutely nothing and theyve yet to make a real signing? Honestly dont know what theyre doing


They're getting Sato, Temple, and a 2nd for Ball in a S&T. Temple will be a GREAT vet to have in that locker room with those guys. Sato is a solid steadying vet at the 1-3. Nothing flashy, but it's useful. Especially if Lewis is anywhere close to getting some minutes.


Sato's a solid vet and Temple shouldnt be a rotation player anymore. Youre right it's not nothing, but man, when you pay to create cap space, people kind of expect you to have a plan for it. This aint it
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Post#1591 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:39 am

whats left for derozan? return to spurs?
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Post#1592 » by Troubadour » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:43 am

Jake Fischer just reported on Spaces that the Raptors had their choice of Herro and Precious and the Raptors chose Precious.
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Post#1593 » by Domejandro » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:53 am

If DeMar Derozan does not end up in Chicago, I wouldn't be shocked to see a trade of....

CHI: Juancho Hernangómez
OUT: Lauri Markkanen (s+t)

MIN: Lauri Markkanen (s+t)
OUT: Juancho Hernangómez, Jarrett Culver, Jake Layman, and a second (or two)

OKC: Jarrett Culver, Jake Layman, and a second (or two)
OUT: Sweet Capspace

Chicago replaces part of Lauri's production with Juancho (who is on a 1+1 (unguaranteed) deal).

Minnesota upgrades their front-court and maintains space to use partial MLE under the tax.

Oklahoma City takes a flier on Culver and a second (or two).
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Post#1594 » by Revenged25 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:53 am

Troubadour wrote:Jake Fischer just reported on Spaces that the Raptors had their choice of Herro and Precious and the Raptors chose Precious.


LoL and this is the guy people want the Cavs to trade Sexton for?
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Post#1595 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:54 am

Domejandro wrote:If DeMar Derozan does not end up in Chicago, I wouldn't be shocked to see a trade of....

CHI: Juancho Hernangómez
OUT: Lauri Markkanen (s+t)

MIN: Lauri Markkanen (s+t)
OUT: Juancho Hernangómez, Jarrett Culver, Jake Layman, and a second (or two)

OKC: Jarrett Culver, Jake Layman, and a second (or two)
OUT: Sweet Capspace

Chicago replaces part of Lauri's production with Juancho (who is on a 1+1 (unguaranteed) deal) and gets a TPE.

Minnesota upgrades their front-court and maintains space to use partial MLE under the tax.

Oklahoma City takes a flier on Culver and a second (or two).


chicago wouldnt get a TPE because of BYC
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Post#1596 » by Domejandro » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:58 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
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chicago wouldnt get a TPE because of BYC

Forgot about BYC, edited out. Fortunately the format still works. Thanks!
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Post#1597 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Tue Aug 3, 2021 1:04 am

Godaddycurse wrote:whats left for derozan? return to spurs?


Sign and trade for Lauri!!! Hopefully??? Maybe??! Probably not since they just signed Collins.
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Post#1598 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Aug 3, 2021 1:07 am

I think the deal is fine for Toronto even if they keep Dragic. They can trade him at midseason or even try to make the playoffs with him.
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Post#1599 » by BullyKing » Tue Aug 3, 2021 1:11 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:With Dwight gone, I want to know where Tony Bradley goes


Like you didn't want to know regardless.
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Post#1600 » by Devilanche » Tue Aug 3, 2021 1:12 am

Most team would probably prefer an expiring dragic over whatever Schroeder wanted anyway.
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