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dcstanley wrote:Funny enough, I think a Knecht and Christie swap makes sense for both teams.
Mavs can use Knecht's shooting/scoring and have the personnel to support him defensively and the Lakers need a 2/3 defender in the worst way.
djFan71 wrote:Do Lakers have $ for a Shake and Milton for KCP and several 2nds type move with Smart signing? Does that fix things? Then use the picks and Gabe, Maxi, Vandy to upgrade elsewhere?
Tying into a Simons for KCP and draft compensation “rumor” by a twitter rando.
dcstanley wrote:Funny enough, I think a Knecht and Christie swap makes sense for both teams.
Mavs can use Knecht's shooting/scoring and have the personnel to support him defensively and the Lakers need a 2/3 defender in the worst way.
Mavrelous wrote:dcstanley wrote:Funny enough, I think a Knecht and Christie swap makes sense for both teams.
Mavs can use Knecht's shooting/scoring and have the personnel to support him defensively and the Lakers need a 2/3 defender in the worst way.
Knecht was in tne doghouse and stunk in summer league as a 24 y/o sophmore, Christie is a good 3&D guard, who is younger than Knecht.
zimpy27 wrote:Mavrelous wrote:dcstanley wrote:Funny enough, I think a Knecht and Christie swap makes sense for both teams.
Mavs can use Knecht's shooting/scoring and have the personnel to support him defensively and the Lakers need a 2/3 defender in the worst way.
Knecht was in tne doghouse and stunk in summer league as a 24 y/o sophmore, Christie is a good 3&D guard, who is younger than Knecht.
The doghouse? What do you mean? Also, I suggest not ever using summer league performance as an indicator of value.
But yeah Christie is definitely a better player than Knecht and more valuable
Karmaloop wrote:djFan71 wrote:Do Lakers have $ for a Shake and Milton for KCP and several 2nds type move with Smart signing? Does that fix things? Then use the picks and Gabe, Maxi, Vandy to upgrade elsewhere?
Tying into a Simons for KCP and draft compensation “rumor” by a twitter rando.
I have Rui Hachimura as more valuable than KCP, and I don't think I'm a homer on that one. Don't think SRPs make up the difference if we're being honest.
Mavrelous wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Mavrelous wrote:Knecht was in tne doghouse and stunk in summer league as a 24 y/o sophmore, Christie is a good 3&D guard, who is younger than Knecht.
The doghouse? What do you mean? Also, I suggest not ever using summer league performance as an indicator of value.
But yeah Christie is definitely a better player than Knecht and more valuable
JJ didn't play him and didn't trust him when everyone was healthy.
For a 24 y/o sophmore to look this bad is a massive warning sign IMO, his value took a hit after SL IMO.
zimpy27 wrote:Mavrelous wrote:zimpy27 wrote:
The doghouse? What do you mean? Also, I suggest not ever using summer league performance as an indicator of value.
But yeah Christie is definitely a better player than Knecht and more valuable
JJ didn't play him and didn't trust him when everyone was healthy.
For a 24 y/o sophmore to look this bad is a massive warning sign IMO, his value took a hit after SL IMO.
I think he got the most minutes amongst any rookie on contending teams last season. If you want to compare his situation to teams that are tanking or play-in level then he falls to 10th or something.
He looked the same as always in SL. What did you see that made him look bad?
Mavrelous wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Mavrelous wrote:JJ didn't play him and didn't trust him when everyone was healthy.
For a 24 y/o sophmore to look this bad is a massive warning sign IMO, his value took a hit after SL IMO.
I think he got the most minutes amongst any rookie on contending teams last season. If you want to compare his situation to teams that are tanking or play-in level then he falls to 10th or something.
He looked the same as always in SL. What did you see that made him look bad?
Didn't watch a single game of SL except Mavs games, but his numbers were terrible, for 24 y/o 2nd year guy, that's terrible.
About the minutes, I started following the Lakers only after the Luka trade, by the end of the season, Reddick had 0 trust in him, Goodwin was ahead of him in rotation, I know he had big games earlier, but he still was traded, and wasn't trusted afterwards.
djFan71 wrote:If it was Vandy, Vincent and Shake does that work straight no picks for KCP? Saves a little money / roster spots. Just not sure if it saves enough.
Karmaloop wrote:djFan71 wrote:If it was Vandy, Vincent and Shake does that work straight no picks for KCP? Saves a little money / roster spots. Just not sure if it saves enough.
I believe it would and mean they wouldn't have to waive Jordan Goodwin. But I do think it pretty much would have locked the Lakers with a 14 man roster without the ability to sign a 15th FA but I don't have the numbers in front of me.
SlimShady83 wrote:Goodwin is now waived by the Lakers
zimpy27 wrote:SlimShady83 wrote:Goodwin is now waived by the Lakers
Don't like it because his energy was useful and he'd be a good depth piece.
Not sure how Lakers fill the roster. Perhaps Thiero at $1m and then just run with 14 players
SlimShady83 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:SlimShady83 wrote:Goodwin is now waived by the Lakers
Don't like it because his energy was useful and he'd be a good depth piece.
Not sure how Lakers fill the roster. Perhaps Thiero at $1m and then just run with 14 players
Same wanted to keep him
Edit Horford for final spot?
zimpy27 wrote:SlimShady83 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:
Don't like it because his energy was useful and he'd be a good depth piece.
Not sure how Lakers fill the roster. Perhaps Thiero at $1m and then just run with 14 players
Same wanted to keep him
Edit Horford for final spot?
No room at this stage. Lakers going in to season with 14 players right on 1st apron.
PG: Smart | Gabe | Bronny
SG: Reaves | Knecht
SF: Luka | LaRavia | Thiero
PF: LeBron | Vando | Kleber
C : Ayton | Rui | Hayes
psman2 wrote:Karmaloop wrote:djFan71 wrote:If it was Vandy, Vincent and Shake does that work straight no picks for KCP? Saves a little money / roster spots. Just not sure if it saves enough.
I believe it would and mean they wouldn't have to waive Jordan Goodwin. But I do think it pretty much would have locked the Lakers with a 14 man roster without the ability to sign a 15th FA but I don't have the numbers in front of me.
Does anyone care about Memphis here? We don't have any open roster spots but suggest we do a 3 for 1 forcing us to waive 1-2 players just to complete the trade for guys we would have no interest in. KCP is likely opening the season as our starter, we have no problem carrying KCP's salary and at worst he is expiring filler in a trade next season if he doesn't work out.
If you trying to do a Simons trade to Memphis, I don't think we are really interested since he is a terrible fit with Ja where they couldn't share the court much at all. He would be fine 6th man for 22-24 minutes or so for us, but he is way overpaid for that role and likely would not be trilled with it as an expiring going into FA. I don't think we would give up much beyond some 2nds if we really wanted off KCP's 2nd year. I think KCP is the better fit for us with Jerome likely ending up in that 6th man role for us already.
zimpy27 wrote:So we have heard CP3 and Clippers have mutual interest for like 2 weeks.
What is the hold up?
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