Woj: Kemba to OKC, Horford to BOS

[Homerclease]

Without fail, now Kemba is the worst player in the association since he no longer plays for Boston

You can go back and check my post history for my feelings on Walker if you desire. At least quote me next time if you’re gonna take a shot

[pacers33granger]

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I think people need to temper expectations for Brown. He may not make it out of camp.

[hugepatsfan]

I’m hopeful that Horford will be a guy who helps Brown and Tatum learn leadership. He’s a voice that they respected when they were young and maybe he can pull them aside at times and correct them when he thinks they’re doing it wrong. That’s a unique dynamic of this guy who lead them now coming back to join them after their ascension to stardom. I hope that manifests itself in positive ways.

[LloydFree]

Boston wins this trade easily. That's all it took to get out of one of the 5 worst contracts in the league? And Horford is a more useful player, if you're objective is to win games.

[sonictecture]

I’m hopeful that Horford will be a guy who helps Brown and Tatum learn leadership. He’s a voice that they respected when they were young and maybe he can pull them aside at times and correct them when he thinks they’re doing it wrong. That’s a unique dynamic of this guy who lead them now coming back to join them after their ascension to stardom. I hope that manifests itself in positive ways.

He’s more of a lead by example, than taking players to the side.

[Devilanche]

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I think people need to temper expectations for Brown. He may not make it out of camp.

While he may not amount to much eventually, pretty sure he will still make the roster at least for this upcoming season.

[Devilanche]

For those who were interested. Not going amount to much but Presti trying to get a chances at early 40s picks and reduce the chance he’s getting one in the 50s
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2021/06/18/thunder-announce-draft-picks-involved-in-the-kemba-walker-al-horford-trade/

2023 second-round draft pick to Boston

These are the three draft picks that the Thunder owned entering Friday:

Own second rounder
Wizards second-round pick (via Pelicans)
Better second-rounder of Mavericks or Heat (via Mavericks)
They will send the worst of these three to the Celtics.

That’s a wide range involving four teams. It feels safe to assume that the Mavericks’ or Heat’s pick will be in the mid-to-late second-round.

2025 second-round draft pick to Thunder

The Thunder will receive the more favorable of these two second-round draft picks that Boston owned entering Friday:

Boston Celtics
Memphis Grizzlies
Both teams hope to still be in playoff contention in four years, so this is likely just another trade chip for Oklahoma City.

[vxmike]

Meh, conflicted on using that first to get off Walker. Prob would have used it on Kai Jones or someone similar to Moses Brown. Boston could actually use Horford so I guess it makes sense.

The C’s have wasted so many picks in that range that didn’t pan out and they already have several more on the bench they can’t develop due to lack of minutes.

Horford plus whoever they can get on the full MLE now is a much better fit than Kemba with his health and massive deal.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Without fail, now Kemba is the worst player in the association since he no longer plays for Boston

You can go back and check my post history for my feelings on Walker if you desire. At least quote me next time if you’re gonna take a shot

It was more than just you but it was also you

[Texas Chuck]

Without fail, now Kemba is the worst player in the association since he no longer plays for Boston

You can go back and check my post history for my feelings on Walker if you desire. At least quote me next time if you’re gonna take a shot

He didn't mention you by name though I see where he is lumping you in. I did go check your posts and they are very anti-Kemba, but the post with the most relevance appears to be one from March where you say that Al Horford is 10x the player Kemba Walker is.

So you are definitely not guilty of changing your position after the trade. Not sure why you got defensive knowing this wasn't you, but did want to confirm for everyone your position has been consistent for a long time.

[Homerclease]

Without fail, now Kemba is the worst player in the association since he no longer plays for Boston

You can go back and check my post history for my feelings on Walker if you desire. At least quote me next time if you’re gonna take a shot

It was more than just you but it was also you

And I’ve been banging the trade Kemba drum for over a year. Has nothing to do with him not being in Boston anymore. Once again, feel free to check my post history

[Homerclease]

Without fail, now Kemba is the worst player in the association since he no longer plays for Boston

You can go back and check my post history for my feelings on Walker if you desire. At least quote me next time if you’re gonna take a shot

He didn't mention you by name though I see where he is lumping you in. I did go check your posts and they are very anti-Kemba, but the post with the most relevance appears to be one from March where you say that Al Horford is 10x the player Kemba Walker is.

So you are definitely not guilty of changing your position after the trade. Not sure why you got defensive knowing this wasn't you, but did want to confirm for everyone your position has been consistent for a long time.

His post came what......3 posts after mine? Dude knew exactly what he was doing

[Texas Chuck]

You can go back and check my post history for my feelings on Walker if you desire. At least quote me next time if you’re gonna take a shot

He didn't mention you by name though I see where he is lumping you in. I did go check your posts and they are very anti-Kemba, but the post with the most relevance appears to be one from March where you say that Al Horford is 10x the player Kemba Walker is.

So you are definitely not guilty of changing your position after the trade. Not sure why you got defensive knowing this wasn't you, but did want to confirm for everyone your position has been consistent for a long time.

His post came what......3 posts after mine? Dude knew exactly what he was doing

When he made that post, multiple posters immediately came to mind. Yours was not one of them. Until you reacted so strongly. I think you were wrong to assume it was about you based on timing considering he only posts that because of multiple posters.

Nonetheless, it was a post made out of frustration at those who change opinions on players based solely on the name of the front of the jersey which I can relate to since far too many posters on this board are guilty of that and we shouldn't pretend it doesn't happen and didn't happen in this very thread. But when you leave it open ended like that you do risk offending an innocent man.

Just happy I could clear it up so your name has been publicly cleared if anyone else lumped you in, but my guess is basically nobody else thought it was about you.

[nykballa2k4]

You can go back and check my post history for my feelings on Walker if you desire. At least quote me next time if you’re gonna take a shot

He didn't mention you by name though I see where he is lumping you in. I did go check your posts and they are very anti-Kemba, but the post with the most relevance appears to be one from March where you say that Al Horford is 10x the player Kemba Walker is.

So you are definitely not guilty of changing your position after the trade. Not sure why you got defensive knowing this wasn't you, but did want to confirm for everyone your position has been consistent for a long time.

His post came what......3 posts after mine? Dude knew exactly what he was doing

Going to interrupt -- if you go through the thread you can probably find who he was actually referring to.

I think you can pound your chest for being the correct one.

Overall, this seems like a nice deal for both teams. Hope Kemba looks healthy. Hope Horford provides solid minutes and C's can look forward to the next available point guard.

[Hal14]

I’m hopeful that Horford will be a guy who helps Brown and Tatum learn leadership. He’s a voice that they respected when they were young and maybe he can pull them aside at times and correct them when he thinks they’re doing it wrong. That’s a unique dynamic of this guy who lead them now coming back to join them after their ascension to stardom. I hope that manifests itself in positive ways.

Agreed.

1) Horford was a good with with tatum/Brown on the court and off. Horford can help Brown/Tatum learn how to be a leader

2) Celtics should look to hire a coach whose personality and style will fit well with Tatum/Brown/Horford. Horford has been in the league for a long time and he's well respected across the league, good character guy. If I'm Brad Stevens, I'm on the phone with Horford right now - to not only welcome him back to the team but to get his opinion on new head coach candidates. Especially what he thinks about Billups, since their playing careers overlapped a decent amount..

[Hal14]

He didn't mention you by name though I see where he is lumping you in. I did go check your posts and they are very anti-Kemba, but the post with the most relevance appears to be one from March where you say that Al Horford is 10x the player Kemba Walker is.

So you are definitely not guilty of changing your position after the trade. Not sure why you got defensive knowing this wasn't you, but did want to confirm for everyone your position has been consistent for a long time.

His post came what......3 posts after mine? Dude knew exactly what he was doing

Going to interrupt -- if you go through the thread you can probably find who he was actually referring to.

I think you can pound your chest for being the correct one.

Overall, this seems like a nice deal for both teams. Hope Kemba looks healthy. Hope Horford provides solid minutes and C's can look forward to the next available point guard.

If the C's grab a PG via trade/free agency, then great. But if not, (as a C's fan) I'm totally fine going into next season with Smart starting at the 1 (he was the C's best passer this past season and played the 1 quite a bit this season) with Pritchard and Yam Madar battling for backup PG minutes.

Madar could turn out to be a special player..

IMO the next few moves for the Celtics should be:

1) Hire a head coach
2) trade Tristan Thompson
3) resign Fournier (or possibly do sign and trade move with him, see no. 6 below)
4) Grab the steal of the draft with 45th pick
5) see if anyone will be willing to take Grant Williams/Carsen Edwards/Jabari Parker in a trade
6) Possibly package up some combination of Robert Williams/Smart/Nesmith/Langford/Pritchard/Fournier/1st round picks in exchange for a 3rd star to go along with Tatum & Brown

[nykballa2k4]

His post came what......3 posts after mine? Dude knew exactly what he was doing

Going to interrupt -- if you go through the thread you can probably find who he was actually referring to.

I think you can pound your chest for being the correct one.

Overall, this seems like a nice deal for both teams. Hope Kemba looks healthy. Hope Horford provides solid minutes and C's can look forward to the next available point guard.

If the C's grab a PG via trade/free agency, then great. But if not, (as a C's fan) I'm totally fine going into next season with Smart starting at the 1 (he was the C's best passer this past season and played the 1 quite a bit this season) with Pritchard and Yam Madar battling for backup PG minutes.

Madar could turn out to be a special player..

IMO the next few moves for the Celtics should be:

1) Hire a head coach
2) trade Tristan Thompson
3) resign Fournier (or possibly do sign and trade move with him, see no. 6 below)
4) Grab the steal of the draft with 45th pick
5) see if anyone will be willing to take Grant Williams/Carsen Edwards/Jabari Parker in a trade
6) Possibly package up some combination of Robert Williams/Smart/Nesmith/Langford/Pritchard/Fournier/1st round picks in exchange for a 3rd star to go along with Tatum & Brown

Sounds like a good plan. If you get Billups, it's possible to get Lillard in the future.

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I think people need to temper expectations for Brown. He may not make it out of camp.

1) Brown averaged like 15 points, 14 rebs and 2 blocks per 36 mins at age 21 and is 7'2" with good athleticism.
2) I can't see a scenario where Thompson doesn't get traded. That (along with resigning Fournier and hiring a head coach) has to be the next move the Celtics make..

[Devilanche]

1) Brown averaged like 15 points, 14 rebs and 2 blocks per 36 mins at age 21 and is 7'2" with good athleticism.

OKC was clearly tanking and force feeding minutes for the younger ones. For brown Celtic career I don’t believe he will start with the same opportunities ( extended minutes that he may not have earned nor an average of 5 field goal attempt a game)

He’s still worth developing though.

[DetroitDon15]

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I first thought that this deal came from the fake woj account. Great deal by the Celtics. The received nothing of value but only had to give one pick to move Walker? Great deal for the Celtics for sure.