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Post#1801 » by Michaellam1987 » Tue May 27, 2025 1:59 am

HornetJail wrote:
SkyHook wrote:
HornetJail wrote:I think Russ opting in and then taking a buyout from Utah (for the third time in 2.5 years lol) would solve that problem


Doesn't quite get there, at least according to Spotrac. And if the Jazz trade for Russ for a third time, I'd definitely want them to keep him.

Sexton = 19.18M

for

Nnaji 8.18M
Saric 5.43M
Russ 3.47M
Tyson 2.22M
=19.30M


Why UTAH will take Nnaji and his bad contract? They can easily get better deal elsewhere for Sexton.
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Post#1802 » by NYG » Tue May 27, 2025 2:19 am

NYG's hot take: this off-season isn't going to be crazy at all. Maybe a KD deal and like a Sabonis trade, but otherwise mostly dull.
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Post#1803 » by HornetJail » Tue May 27, 2025 2:33 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:
HornetJail wrote:
SkyHook wrote:
Doesn't quite get there, at least according to Spotrac. And if the Jazz trade for Russ for a third time, I'd definitely want them to keep him.

Sexton = 19.18M

for

Nnaji 8.18M
Saric 5.43M
Russ 3.47M
Tyson 2.22M
=19.30M


Why UTAH will take Nnaji and his bad contract? They can easily get better deal elsewhere for Sexton.

the 1st rounder that was being discussed
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Post#1804 » by LarsV8 » Tue May 27, 2025 2:36 am

NYG wrote:NYG's hot take: this off-season isn't going to be crazy at all. Maybe a KD deal and like a Sabonis trade, but otherwise mostly dull.


Disagree, I think the offseason is going to be nuts.
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Post#1805 » by NYG » Tue May 27, 2025 2:40 am

John Collins and Collin Sexton for Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton, AJ Green and 2031 Unprotected Milwaukee Bucks First Round Draft Pick?

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Post#1806 » by Tripod » Tue May 27, 2025 2:58 am

nolaPELSfan wrote:Quickley, Agbaji, 9, 39 & a Raps future 1st
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Jah Morant

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Post#1807 » by WargamesX » Tue May 27, 2025 3:08 am

LarsV8 wrote:
NYG wrote:NYG's hot take: this off-season isn't going to be crazy at all. Maybe a KD deal and like a Sabonis trade, but otherwise mostly dull.


Disagree, I think the offseason is going to be nuts.

Agreed a lot of teams can’t improve in Free agency so I expect a lot of trades.
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Post#1808 » by Michaellam1987 » Tue May 27, 2025 3:34 am

HornetJail wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:
HornetJail wrote:Sexton = 19.18M

for

Nnaji 8.18M
Saric 5.43M
Russ 3.47M
Tyson 2.22M
=19.30M


Why UTAH will take Nnaji and his bad contract? They can easily get better deal elsewhere for Sexton.

the 1st rounder that was being discussed


I don't think DEN will like to give up a future first here.
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Post#1809 » by bkohler » Tue May 27, 2025 3:50 am

NYG wrote:John Collins and Collin Sexton for Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton, AJ Green and 2031 Unprotected Milwaukee Bucks First Round Draft Pick?



If the 31 pick is on the table seems like Utah would prefer to just take back Dame so he can sit for the next season and an half and not mess up the tank and MIL would prefer to ship out Dame.

Collins, Sexton, Clarkson for Dame and the 31, then MIL could piece together a rotation from smaller follow up trades.
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Post#1810 » by NYG » Tue May 27, 2025 3:58 am

What could Kuzma + Connaughton get even if it's better fitting bad stuff?

PWill and Dosunmu?

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Post#1811 » by ReggiesKnicks » Tue May 27, 2025 4:08 am

NYG wrote:What could Kuzma + Connaughton get even if it's better fitting bad stuff?


Dejounte Murray?
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Post#1812 » by babyjax13 » Tue May 27, 2025 4:09 am

NYG wrote:John Collins and Collin Sexton for Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton, AJ Green and 2031 Unprotected Milwaukee Bucks First Round Draft Pick?

babyjax13 wrote:.

I'd do it, Milwaukee could route Portis to a third team that would give value for him and either that can return to Milwaukee, go to Utah, or be split.
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Post#1813 » by SkyHook » Tue May 27, 2025 4:38 am

bkohler wrote:
NYG wrote:John Collins and Collin Sexton for Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton, AJ Green and 2031 Unprotected Milwaukee Bucks First Round Draft Pick?



If the 31 pick is on the table seems like Utah would prefer to just take back Dame so he can sit for the next season and an half and not mess up the tank and MIL would prefer to ship out Dame.

Collins, Sexton, Clarkson for Dame and the 31, then MIL could piece together a rotation from smaller follow up trades.


No, I don't think so. The original deal is far more preferable. The smaller deals this season would be easier to move if that's the direction the Jazz want to go and Kuzma's contract is $40MM less than Dame's the following season.
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Post#1814 » by SlimShady83 » Tue May 27, 2025 4:49 am

What's Robert Williams worth In regards to trades, especially on Lakers side of things??

wouldn't mind him as a back up.
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Post#1815 » by babyjax13 » Tue May 27, 2025 4:58 am

SkyHook wrote:
bkohler wrote:
NYG wrote:John Collins and Collin Sexton for Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton, AJ Green and 2031 Unprotected Milwaukee Bucks First Round Draft Pick?



If the 31 pick is on the table seems like Utah would prefer to just take back Dame so he can sit for the next season and an half and not mess up the tank and MIL would prefer to ship out Dame.

Collins, Sexton, Clarkson for Dame and the 31, then MIL could piece together a rotation from smaller follow up trades.


No, I don't think so. The original deal is far more preferable. The smaller deals this season would be easier to move if that's the direction the Jazz want to go and Kuzma's contract is $40MM less than Dame's the following season.

I actually think Kuzma is so unbelievably bad that Dame has more potential value. If he comes back in 26-27 and is still a 20-24ppg scorer he'd actually be playable. Kuzma really isn't an NBA caliber player, IMO.
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Post#1816 » by SkyHook » Tue May 27, 2025 5:16 am

babyjax13 wrote:
SkyHook wrote:
bkohler wrote:

If the 31 pick is on the table seems like Utah would prefer to just take back Dame so he can sit for the next season and an half and not mess up the tank and MIL would prefer to ship out Dame.

Collins, Sexton, Clarkson for Dame and the 31, then MIL could piece together a rotation from smaller follow up trades.


No, I don't think so. The original deal is far more preferable. The smaller deals this season would be easier to move if that's the direction the Jazz want to go and Kuzma's contract is $40MM less than Dame's the following season.

I actually think Kuzma is so unbelievably bad that Dame has more potential value. If he comes back in 26-27 and is still a 20-24ppg scorer he'd actually be playable. Kuzma really isn't an NBA caliber player, IMO.


I love Dame, but I'd place the odds of him coming back from a blown Achilles at age 36 and being a 20+ ppg scorer at well below 50/50. I wouldn't want to bet nearly $60MM on that possibility. Kuzma is an NBA player, but you're better off if he's at the end of the rotation, an 8-10th man. Dame might be that upon his return.
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Post#1817 » by Astaluego » Tue May 27, 2025 6:14 am

Garland for Quickley+Dicks+39..?

The Cavs are doing it for the better defensive IQ and also get prospect Dicks. The Raptors are getting the best player, who is an excellent shooter and a long-term partner for Barnes.
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Post#1818 » by babyjax13 » Tue May 27, 2025 6:21 am

SlimShady83 wrote:What's Robert Williams worth In regards to trades, especially on Lakers side of things??

wouldn't mind him as a back up.

One of Vincent/Kleber + a 2nd or enough cash to buy a 2nd?
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Post#1819 » by tester551 » Tue May 27, 2025 6:21 am

SlimShady83 wrote:What's Robert Williams worth In regards to trades, especially on Lakers side of things??

wouldn't mind him as a back up.

He's definitely available.
Would be looking for a good second (or equivalent)

In looking at the Lakers trade assets, there's not many options.

Maybe Vincent + '30 pick swap option for Portland?

Or possibly include Charlotte.... Send Knecht to the Hornets for #33 & #34.

Lakers take 1 of the seconds and send the other to Portland
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Post#1820 » by SlimShady83 » Tue May 27, 2025 7:15 am

tester551 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:What's Robert Williams worth In regards to trades, especially on Lakers side of things??

wouldn't mind him as a back up.

He's definitely available.
Would be looking for a good second (or equivalent)

In looking at the Lakers trade assets, there's not many options.

Maybe Vincent + '30 pick swap option for Portland?

Or possibly include Charlotte.... Send Knecht to the Hornets for #33 & #34.

Lakers take 1 of the seconds and send the other to Portland


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SlimShady83 wrote:What's Robert Williams worth In regards to trades, especially on Lakers side of things??

wouldn't mind him as a back up.

One of Vincent/Kleber + a 2nd or enough cash to buy a 2nd?


Many thanks, wouldn't mind him as a back up.
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