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MotownMadness · Post #1841 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:42 pm

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R-DAWG · Post #1842 » by **R-DAWG** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:52 pm

MotownMadness wrote:

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The problem is Lonzo Ball is going to cost $18-20MM (RFA which has overpayment risk) the next two years. If you eat one of Bledsoe/Adams, you are essentially paying Lonzo Ball $40MM per year.

If it was eat 1 year, plus a partial guarantee for Bledsoe, in exchange for a rookie with 4 years of cost control it's a different story.

goober · Post #1843 » by **goober** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:19 pm

MotownMadness wrote:

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Could be a deal quite similar to the Russell and Mozgov for Lopez type deal that happened between the Lakers and Nets a couple of years ago

kingcong95 · Post #1844 » by **kingcong95** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:22 pm

Goober wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:

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Could be a deal quite similar to the Russell and Mozgov for Lopez type deal that happened between the Lakers and Nets a couple of years ago

But Lonzo is looking at a big raise. The sweetener guy in this case would be NAW, Hayes, or an unprotected pick from the Lakers or Bucks depending on who's taking on the freight.

Post #1845 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:25 pm

I'd take on Adams to get Ball for Dallas.

Post #1846 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:28 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I'd take on Adams to get Ball for Dallas.

I'd do the same for OKC unfortunately we can't

Post #1847 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:34 pm

Homer38 wrote:

Read on Twitter

I posted just above but could see Lakers at least trying to go for Lowry and Powell with Harrell, Schroeder, KCP, THT.

Lowry, Powell, LeBron, Davis, Drummond
Caruso, Matthews, Kuzma, Markieff, Gasol

Don't know if Toronto bites but they would effectively have:

FVV, KCP, OG, Siakam, Baynes
Schroeder, TD2, THT, Boucher, Harrell

Godaddycurse · Post #1848 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:36 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:

Read on Twitter

I posted just above but could see Lakers at least trying to go for Lowry and Powell with Harrell, Schroeder, KCP, THT.

Lowry, Powell, LeBron, Davis, Drummond
Caruso, Matthews, Kuzma, Markieff, Gasol

Don't know if Toronto bites but they would effectively have:

FVV, KCP, OG, Siakam, Baynes
Schroeder, TD2, THT, Boucher, Harrell

no toronto wouldn't bite at that

Smirk · Post #1849 » by **Smirk** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:36 pm

The Adams talk is likely out of thin air.

He was just extended this offseason, making his trade, while not impossible, much more difficult.

ACMFFL · Post #1850 » by **ACMFFL** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:37 pm

Gosh, that LAL lineup is scary.

Post #1851 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:02 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:

Read on Twitter

I posted just above but could see Lakers at least trying to go for Lowry and Powell with Harrell, Schroeder, KCP, THT.

Lowry, Powell, LeBron, Davis, Drummond
Caruso, Matthews, Kuzma, Markieff, Gasol

Don't know if Toronto bites but they would effectively have:

FVV, KCP, OG, Siakam, Baynes
Schroeder, TD2, THT, Boucher, Harrell

no toronto wouldn't bite at that

Maybe not but Lowry and Powell are the most logical additions the Lakers are chasing.

I tend to agree that it's not enough but it really depends on the other offers

Post #1852 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:09 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:

I posted just above but could see Lakers at least trying to go for Lowry and Powell with Harrell, Schroeder, KCP, THT.

Lowry, Powell, LeBron, Davis, Drummond
Caruso, Matthews, Kuzma, Markieff, Gasol

Don't know if Toronto bites but they would effectively have:

FVV, KCP, OG, Siakam, Baynes
Schroeder, TD2, THT, Boucher, Harrell

no toronto wouldn't bite at that

Maybe not but Lowry and Powell are the most logical additions the Lakers are chasing.

I tend to agree that it's not enough but it really depends on the other offers

Unless the Lakers can really pull something out of their backsides (or the Raps have more interest in trying to screw the Clippers than getting GM fair value?) I don’t think LA will be able to keep up with the Philly and Miami offers

Hal14 · Post #1853 » by **Hal14** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:15 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/261992/John-Collins-Still-Prefers-To-Re-Sign-With-Hawks

This might be just lip service and Collins might just be saying this to be a Company Man, but these quotes actually sound real, authentic and genuine.

He genuinely sounds like he wants to stay in Atlanta and be loyal to the team that drafted him. It's rare these days in the NBA.

As much as I think he'd be a great fit on the Celtics, I think you respect what this guy is saying and just let him stay in Atlanta - at least for now..

Mike lorenzo · Post #1854 » by **Mike lorenzo** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:16 pm

NOP
In: Johnson / Horford
Out: Adams / Bledsoe

gets a better fit for Zion..Delete Bledsoe from books

Dallas
In: Adams
Out: Johnson / Powell
Turn Powell into Adams
A better player ..

THUNDER
In: Bledsoe / Powell
Out: Horford
Get contract easier to move.

thinking?? who should I add?

Post #1855 » by **loserX** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:18 pm

Hal14 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/261992/John-Collins-Still-Prefers-To-Re-Sign-With-Hawks

This might be just lip service and Collins might just be saying this to be a Company Man, but these quotes actually sound real, authentic and genuine.

He genuinely sounds like he wants to stay in Atlanta and be loyal to the team that drafted him. It's rare these days in the NBA.

As much as I think he'd be a great fit on the Celtics, I think you respect what this guy is saying and just let him stay in Atlanta - at least for now..

Good info, I just moved it into the General Discussion thread. Quoting you so you don't just think it disappeared

Post #1856 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:18 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:NOP
In: Johnson / Horford
Out: Adams / Bledsoe

gets a better fit for Zion..Delete Bledsoe from books

Dallas
In: Adams
Out: Johnson / Powell
Turn Powell into Adams
A better player ..

THUNDER
In: Bledsoe / Powell
Out: Horford
Get contract easier to move.

thinking?? who should I add?

Cut OKC out.

Post #1857 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:19 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:

I posted just above but could see Lakers at least trying to go for Lowry and Powell with Harrell, Schroeder, KCP, THT.

Lowry, Powell, LeBron, Davis, Drummond
Caruso, Matthews, Kuzma, Markieff, Gasol

Don't know if Toronto bites but they would effectively have:

FVV, KCP, OG, Siakam, Baynes
Schroeder, TD2, THT, Boucher, Harrell

no toronto wouldn't bite at that

Maybe not but Lowry and Powell are the most logical additions the Lakers are chasing.

I tend to agree that it's not enough but it really depends on the other offers

Lakers are hard capped at the apron for their MLE signing or Harrell, and only $1.5m away from it. KCP, Harrell, and Schroeder combine to make $37.3m, and Lowry/Powell make almost $41.4m. LA would have to send out at least $40m. So, say they send out another $3m to meet that gap, now they won’t have enough space under the hard cap to fill the extra two roster spots they just opened up below the minimum. It gets tricky making it work.

But also, it hides the fact that Toronto would simply be giving up their chance at value and just taking whatever to simply help LA.

Post #1858 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:25 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
no toronto wouldn't bite at that

Maybe not but Lowry and Powell are the most logical additions the Lakers are chasing.

I tend to agree that it's not enough but it really depends on the other offers

Lakers are hard capped at the apron for their MLE signing or Harrell, and only $1.5m away from it. KCP, Harrell, and Schroeder combine to make $37.3m, and Lowry/Powell make almost $41.4m. LA would have to send out at least $40m. So, say they send out another $3m to meet that gap, now they won’t have enough space under the hard cap to fill the extra two roster spots they just opened up below the minimum. It gets tricky making it work.

But also, it hides the fact that Toronto would simply be giving up their chance at value and just taking whatever to simply help LA.

THT would be added I imagine for value and Matthews/Kuzma could sort out the financials.

It really just depends on what these other proposals from Miami and Philly are. I think this Lakers offer beats the Philly offer I've heard (Green, Scott, Thybulle). Do you know what Heat are likely offering? sounds like they don't want to offer Herro.

Kilo · Post #1859 » by **Kilo** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:31 pm

If KCP is moved to Toronto in a Lowry deal, I could see him rerouted to Brooklyn for Dinwiddie.

R-DAWG · Post #1860 » by **R-DAWG** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:33 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Maybe not but Lowry and Powell are the most logical additions the Lakers are chasing.

I tend to agree that it's not enough but it really depends on the other offers

Lakers are hard capped at the apron for their MLE signing or Harrell, and only $1.5m away from it. KCP, Harrell, and Schroeder combine to make $37.3m, and Lowry/Powell make almost $41.4m. LA would have to send out at least $40m. So, say they send out another $3m to meet that gap, now they won’t have enough space under the hard cap to fill the extra two roster spots they just opened up below the minimum. It gets tricky making it work.

But also, it hides the fact that Toronto would simply be giving up their chance at value and just taking whatever to simply help LA.

THT would be added I imagine for value and Matthews/Kuzma could sort out the financials.

It really just depends on what these other proposals from Miami and Philly are. I think this Lakers offer beats the Philly offer I've heard (Green, Scott, Thybulle). Do you know what Heat are likely offering? sounds like they don't want to offer Herro.

It also depends on what Schroeder/Harrell/KCP (although could make the argument that KCP fits in Toronto with FVV and OG as a Powell replacement on a reasonable deal). I don't think I see a league landscape where there is a 1std pick + expiring for Schroder, same with Harrell - although turning those 2 into draft capital to combine with KCP could be the best offer available if Miami keeps Herro out of the deal

And from the Lakers perspective, Lowry is an ideal 3rd star to play with Lebron/AD. Can play off the ball as a spot up shooter or be a secondary playmaker/defender in addition to being a great defender. It's too bad they need to move KCP to pull this off, because Lowry/KCP would be an excellent backcourt pairing.