76ers - Warriors -Kings - Jazz

[5th pick sucks]

SacGreene916 pretty much hit it on the spot.

[PaKwAn]

sac says No to this deal.....

[don nelson]

So it looks like the Warriors, Kings and Jazz all say no to this trade. Think the OP is a 76er fan?

[doctor him]

First of all buddy you obviously don't watch kings games. The one thing about cousins I never questioned was his desire to be a winner and i watched about 75 of their games last year. And dont get me wrong i was questioning demarcus the whole first half of a season but if you watched this kid play you can tell he wants to prove everyone wrong and become great.

Secondly your forgetting were throwing the 7th pick in which in my opinion has more value to the KINGS than Monta considering his contract. then it boils down to cousins for kanter and udoh. Udoh was injured half of last year and I dont think will ever be better than a decent defensive big, and kanter is a foreign player who i doubt many people have seen play and is a complete unknown and I highly doubt will ever be a top 3 center in the league. I'm sorry that i see no reason to back track and hope kanter can show the potential demarcus showed me, and udoh doesnt make up for a wasted year.

Bigs win titles not players like ellis and udoh especially when we already have dally and thornton who granted are both free agents so well see what goes down but they do exactly what we need from them. And id much rather take my chances with what we have than a brand new team next year
Dally Kanter
Cousins Udoh
7th pick Casspi
Thronton Ellis
Evans Evans

No...I haven't been subjected to Kings games. I thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ daily for that.

However, I have heard about DeMarcus' pre game ritual and things like his diet and the like.

I'll say this: scouts in the league (yes...I'm old enough to know guys and played against guys who've played and retired from the league) see him as a overgrown kid who doesn't have the first clue about how to be a professional and how to prepare like a pro.

Moreover...the problem with the Kings is that they don't have ANYONE on that roster who can teach him that. So I'm not sure exactly who is going to turn Demarcus into a pro.

Now...from everything I've heard about DeMarcus he's a good kid so I'm rooting for him to be the very best he can be. I hope with sincerity that he becomes a top 25 all timer which he can be. I hope that he puts in all the work to make that happen.

But I have to be honest with you...the only way I see it going down is him frustrating the hell out of the Kings and getting dealt to a veteran team with guys that show him the way. I don't see how he becomes a great player with the Kings. I could be wrong and often am, but I don't see Cousins being the type of kid to raise himself by himself.

[doctor him]

and btw Coleman was 6'9 230 and 23 when he entered the league, demarcus was 20 6'11 280 big difference. Oh and size does matter despite what you have been told you whole life

Derrick and DeMarcus have the same game and the same maturity level and the same potential.

Honestly, to put Cousins talent and potential on the same level as Coleman's when he came into the league is an incredible compliment to Cousins. You may not be old enough to have seen Derrick, but I'm old enough to have seen him back to his senior year in high school. Derrick could've been one of the 10 greatest players to step on the court if he only cared enough when he was younger.

Oh...and since you didn't know, I'm black or rather African American. What they say is actually true so that hasn't ever been an issue for me. Though it's been enjoyable for me as members of the fairer gender have been compelled to find out for themselves over the past 42 years.

[doctor him]

So it looks like the Warriors, Kings and Jazz all say no to this trade. Think the OP is a 76er fan?

I'd say so and the deal is too good for the Sixers as well.

[[RCG]]

and btw Coleman was 6'9 230 and 23 when he entered the league, demarcus was 20 6'11 280 big difference. Oh and size does matter despite what you have been told you whole life

Derrick and DeMarcus have the same game and the same maturity level and the same potential.

Honestly, to put Cousins talent and potential on the same level as Coleman's when he came into the league is an incredible compliment to Cousins. You may not be old enough to have seen Derrick, but I'm old enough to have seen him back to his senior year in high school. Derrick could've been one of the 10 greatest players to step on the court if he only cared enough when he was younger.

Oh...and since you didn't know, I'm black or rather African American. What they say is actually true so that hasn't ever been an issue for me. Though it's been enjoyable for me as members of the fairer gender have been compelled to find out for themselves over the past 42 years.

Seems like we have masculinity issues going on here.

[Cruel_Ruin]

Cousins doesn't care enough?

Are you kidding me? His problem is being OVERemotional and OVERcompetitive. He needs to reign in his emotions, not the other way around.

And this deal is horrible for the Kings, considering that Kanter is a huge downgrade from Cousins and Ellis is not needed with Thornton around.

[LightTheBeam]

Dont get me wrong DC im sure was a great prospect, but you cant compare him to a player like DMC. A more fair comparison would be someone like Bynum because of the size,age, and maturity.
But if you compare the skills and what Demarcus can do on the court at 20 it blows him out of the water.

He has the skills thats without question, he has the size, he has the desire the only thing that is missing is the maturity but people need to realize he is ONLY 20 years old. How many 20 year olds do you know that are actually mature adults?

I have no question in my mind that if we keep this young core and continue to develop while adding role players we will be contending for years to come. So why trade a 20 year old Big who already proved he has what it takes for one we have never seen and a slight upgrade at the 2 while giving the 7th pick in the draft? I dont care what scouts say they can doubt him all they want at the end of the day i think the only person that can stop Cousins is Cousins. Maybe im wrong and your right but even at that i feel he is worth much more than a bunch of B players.

And do you think if Cousins would have stayed in college one more year he wouldnt be the #1 pick right now come on now? Teams dont win just by having a bunch of good players (except pistons one year) you need a star and right now DMC has more potential to be that than any of those players coming back. Ill take my chances rather than making a trade to put us at a 6-8 seed for ten years.

[City of Trees]

I haven't been subjected to Kings games. I thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ daily for that.

This takes away all your credibility when passing judgement on Cousins drive, hustle, ect.

However, I have heard about DeMarcus' pre game ritual and things like his diet.

You mean his seafood diet? And his pregame ritual meal of sushi??? Yea what a douche bag! Get outta here dude

I'll say this: scouts in the league (yes...I'm old enough to know guys and played against guys who've played and retired from the league) see him as a overgrown kid who doesn't have the first clue about how to be a professional and how to prepare like a pro.

Most 20 year old kids who are removed 1 year out of high school enter the NBA like this.. so whats your point?

Moreover...the problem with the Kings is that they don't have ANYONE on that roster who can teach him that. So I'm not sure exactly who is going to turn Demarcus into a pro.

SO who is going to teach him on the 76ers? Spencer Hawes? Yea that guy has a great work ethic doesnt he Kings fans

But I have to be honest with you...the only way I see it going down is him frustrating the hell out of the Kings and getting dealt to a veteran team with guys that show him the way. I don't see how he becomes a great player with the Kings. I could be wrong and often am, but I don't see Cousins being the type of kid to raise himself by himself.

Cousins recognized Dalembert this year as a veteran he can look to, along with coach Reef. One of the teams top goals this offseason is to add more of a veteran presence. That is something easier to accomplish versus trading Cousins away.

You can make any argument you want. Fact of the matter is Cousins is only 20 years old. Growing pains are apart of maturing kids into professionals. Kings management knew what they were signing up for before DMC was drafted. I have to say for all the BIG TALK about Cousins being a problem child, if his rookie season is as bad as he can be then I will take that any day. He showed compassion and a drive to win. He always showed he cared what was going on. Sure he had his days he was frustrated adjusting to the NBA game, all 20 year old rookies do. DMC is a good kid and will be fine. Sacramento is just the kind of city and fan support DMC needs to grow and be a professional. Not Philly

[DBreezy11]

Moreover...the problem with the Kings is that they don't have ANYONE on that roster who can teach him that. So I'm not sure exactly who is going to turn Demarcus into a pro.

SO who is going to teach him on the 76ers? Spencer Hawes? Yea that guy has a great work ethic doesnt he Kings fans

While he isn't a center, Brand is a great veteran to look up who'll teach him the finer points of the game. Not to mention, Doug Collins is a hell of a lot better than Westphal in terms of teaching discipline and he also gets along well with his team.

But I have to be honest with you...the only way I see it going down is him frustrating the hell out of the Kings and getting dealt to a veteran team with guys that show him the way. I don't see how he becomes a great player with the Kings. I could be wrong and often am, but I don't see Cousins being the type of kid to raise himself by himself.

Cousins recognized Dalembert this year as a veteran he can look to, along with coach Reef. One of the teams top goals this offseason is to add more of a veteran presence. That is something easier to accomplish versus trading Cousins away.
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Dalembert is a veteran that he can look up to? The guy that takes stupid fadeaway jumpers like he's Jordan, commits multiple stupid goaltending penalties, and is known for not giving his all in practice or games? Yeah, what a great vet to look up to. Just what Cousins needs

[City of Trees]

^^^^^^Cousins noted he helps him on defensive. Cousins said he helps Dally on offense

I also stated One of the Kings top goals is to add more veterans!

[Bac2Basics]

Kings aren't trading Cousins for Ellis.

It might be fair value, but as far as the way it would goof up the Kings roster,

The Kings would have all their top flight talent in the backcourt at the expense of the post. Not a smart move. I'm not sold on Kanter being anything close to Cousins, so he wouldn't be a sufficient replacement in my mind.

[leroydaman]

I doubt Utah has any interest in trading down from 3 to 7 for the 16th pick. And what is this "Jazz doesn't need Kanter, so they trade down to get Kemba Walker at #7" They need him more than an undersized combo guard in Walker.

[SacKingZZZ]

So Cousins and Walker are worth Ellis, Udoh AND Kanter??? Kings make out like bandits in this deal.

His potential certainly should be. Value's not bad but that potential and fit concerns are the very reason the Kings decline this deal.

[the_process]

listen sac fans with your panties all in a bunch, the op trade is bad and most of us philly fans know that. secondly, the ones who know the game are also fine with derrick cole... demarcus cousins staying in sacto, just where you want him. no headcases over here, thank you very much, big man or not.