Official: Lowry to Toronto (Who

Xman · Post #21 » by **Xman** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 8:52 pm

Rumored pick protection, Rockets get pick next yr if between 4 and 14. If not, then if 3 to 14 next two yrs; 2 to 14 two yrs after that.

If the Raptors make the playoffs or get the top pick for the next 5 yeas, the Rockets don't get the pick.R

LarsV8 · Post #22 » by **LarsV8** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 8:58 pm

^yes they do.

They just get it as it is in year 6

Post #23 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 9:53 pm

Xman wrote:Rumored pick protection, Rockets get pick next yr if between 4 and 14. If not, then if 3 to 14 next two yrs; 2 to 14 two yrs after that.

If the Raptors make the playoffs or get the top pick for the next 5 yeas, the Rockets don't get the pick.R

Crazy, top and bottom protection? I want to see it lusted officially, but I don't put it past Morey!

(Added the poll, will tack onto the list of deals.)

Post #24 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:08 pm

Colangelo won this deal. I think if he walked away with just Bayless and or Calderon as our starters next year he's on a short leash and if we missed the playoff's....again I think he would be fired. This is a great deal for Toronto Lowry is a bulldog defender who fans are going to love, the guy plays with heart and has a good all around game.

Rockets should have seen if they could have got Bayless here I am thinking cause the rest of the names out there are not that great. Unless they are seriously banking on Lin and hope he could bring some of his magic to their team. Reports are stating that New York is persuing Felton as well to go with Nash if Lin signs else where.

WhatsaTDot · Post #25 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:17 pm

I like the deal for Toronto. Of course this is as of July 2012. Come June 2013, when were handing over the 5th pick of a draft and Lowry is miserable and wanting out of Toronto, I'll start drinking heavily again; pissed off that BC was unable to predict the future.

john2jer · Post #26 » by **john2jer** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:23 pm

LeMagic White is their new PG. 6'8" 270 pounds of PG. Go ahead and try to check him.

Dr Positivity · Post #27 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:24 pm

Great 24 hours for Scott Machado

x- · Post #28 » by x- » Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:24 pm

WhatsaTDot wrote:I like the deal for Toronto. Of course this is as of July 2012. Come June 2013, when were handing over the 14th pick of a draft and Lowry made the All-Star team and the Raptors were an injury away from the playoffs, I'll LOVE this deal.

Fixed.

Hate this deal for my Rockets.

WhatsaTDot · Post #29 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:52 pm

x- wrote:
WhatsaTDot wrote:I like the deal for Toronto. Of course this is as of July 2012. Come June 2013, when were handing over the 14th pick of a draft and Lowry made the All-Star team and the Raptors were an injury away from the playoffs, I'll LOVE this deal.

Fixed.

Hate this deal for my Rockets.

That would be great but this is Toronto we're talking about. We dont have that kind of luck.

Post #30 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:59 pm

x- wrote:
WhatsaTDot wrote:I like the deal for Toronto. Of course this is as of July 2012. Come June 2013, when were handing over the 14th pick of a draft and Lowry made the All-Star team and the Raptors were an injury away from the playoffs, I'll LOVE this deal.

Fixed.

Hate this deal for my Rockets.

Yeah, I put it a win for Toronto, and not for both.

I think its a massive fall from 12 + Lowry for 5 to this. And I like 12 in this past draft a lot.. Sac could have had Lowry + Henson instead of T-Rob. Not blaming a lack of deal elsewhere on Houston, but this just feels like a bad consolation deal.

For Toronto, my downer caveat would be I'm not sure they aren't capping their franchise out as a 4 or 5th seed in the East (3rd if wildly optimistic??), but they were clearly going for better now and the value is good.

Post #31 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 11:01 pm

Wow. It is 0-9-0-0 in voting, with everyone saying Toronto won. Granted, that is early, but I think this is the clearest winner of a deal so far.

franktony · Post #32 » by **franktony** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 11:54 pm

I love this deal for Toronto

They got the 8th pick this season with Bargs injured most of the season. Now they're adding Lowry, Ross, Fields and Valanciunas. I don't see how they can get worse.

I really don't know what Morey is trying to do. If the idea is to rebuild, why make such big offers for Jeremy Lin, Asik and try a S&T for Gordon ? That doesn't make any sense.

Alienware · Post #33 » by **Alienware** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 11:56 pm

LarsV8 wrote:^yes they do.

They just get it as it is in year 6

Word is that no, they don't.

WizardsWorld · Post #34 » by **WizardsWorld** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 11:58 pm

Rockets are gonna have either Felton or Calderon as their starting pg. Lin stays in NY... Sessions goes to Dallas and that leaves Felton and the likely amnestied Calderon as who's left.

LarsV8 · Post #35 » by **LarsV8** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 12:50 am

Alienware wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:^yes they do.

They just get it as it is in year 6

Word is that no, they don't.

Every protected pick also moves reverts into something else eventually.

Post #36 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 1:01 am

LarsV8 wrote:
Alienware wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:^yes they do.

They just get it as it is in year 6

Word is that no, they don't.

Every protected pick also moves reverts into something else eventually.

Sixers pick to Miami becomes 2 2nds if not conveyed. They all become something, but some become unprotected firsts, and some become 2nds or cash.

Leto · Post #37 » by **Leto** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 1:35 am

franktony wrote:I love this deal for Toronto

They got the 8th pick this season with Bargs injured most of the season. Now they're adding Lowry, Ross, Fields and Valanciunas. I don't see how they can get worse.

I really don't know what Morey is trying to do. If the idea is to rebuild, why make such big offers for Jeremy Lin, Asik and try a S&T for Gordon ? That doesn't make any sense.

Really, I have no clue what Morey is doing. If the Bulls and Knicks match, then what? And it still makes no sense. How do you lose both Lowry and Dragic and all you get for your trouble is Gary Forbes and a future lotto pick? On top of that, you let Lee go and now, apparently, they made an offer for him? I don't know, but it looks as if that FO is totally confused/got thrown off their game. I guess we'll know soon.

Parataxis · Post #38 » by **Parataxis** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 1:56 am

This really puts the Raps in a great position. Not only do they have their new starting PG (and with Jose backing him, that gives them one of the best 1-2 PG punches in the league), but now they can play their kids, see what they have, and not worry if they end up in 9th.

If Houston gets the pick next year, I can't see it being better than 12th.

Sasaki · Post #39 » by **Sasaki** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 2:04 am

franktony wrote:I love this deal for Toronto

They got the 8th pick this season with Bargs injured most of the season. Now they're adding Lowry, Ross, Fields and Valanciunas. I don't see how they can get worse.

I really don't know what Morey is trying to do. If the idea is to rebuild, why make such big offers for Jeremy Lin, Asik and try a S&T for Gordon ? That doesn't make any sense.

Rebuild /= Sit around and suck and don't try to improve at all until the lottery ball bounces your way.

HuskieFan · Post #40 » by **HuskieFan** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 2:16 am

Seems like Houston is showing some interest in bring back Aaron Brooks. Be kinda funny if he goes back to Houston with Dragic going back to PHX.

Who won the trade?