Denver-Toronto

[Jambo]

Like I said before, it's harder to find a SF to do what Gallo does, with his potential - than a power forward that brings what Bargnani does.

Yea you did say before it's harder to find a SF to do what Gallo does but you never said what you think Gallo actually does .

[Duffman100]

Like I said before, it's harder to find a SF to do what Gallo does, with his potential - than a power forward that brings what Bargnani does.

Yea you did say before it's harder to find a SF to do what Gallo does but you never said what you think Gallo actually does .

He pretty much does what Bargs does except he shoots better, better offensive player, better passes and contributes more to wins.

[Jambo]

Like I said before, it's harder to find a SF to do what Gallo does, with his potential - than a power forward that brings what Bargnani does.

Yea you did say before it's harder to find a SF to do what Gallo does but you never said what you think Gallo actually does .

He pretty much does what Bargs does except he shoots better, better offensive player, better passes and contributes more to wins.

Why bother posting if you're just going to make crap up . I don't think you even have a clue who Gallo is . Anyway i'm done with this . Stew in your hate if that's what you enjoy but i think i'll actually hope for moves that improve us .

[Aeternus]

Why bother posting if you're just going to make crap up . I don't think you even have a clue who Gallo is . Anyway i'm done with this . Stew in your hate if that's what you enjoy but i think i'll actually hope for moves that improve us .

Dude unless you're mistaking Gallo for Bellinelli, you're the one not making any sense.

Gallo is a very efficient mid-volume scorer (PER36 17ppg on .57 TS) and all around very good offensive player (is a threat from 3, can drive and pass or draw a foul, can play in the post a little) really not any worse than Bargs, who scores a bit more but on worse efficiency; He's at worst an average rebounder for the SF position, and and a very very good and versatile offensive player who can guard SGs, SFs, ans PFs. Last season he always got to guard the toughest matchup on D, even tho Denver had so called great perimeter defender Arron Afflalo on the roster, so that's pretty much unjustifiable to call him mediocre.
To finish, Gallo managed to score +1.8 on offensive RAPM and +1.6 defensive RAPM, putting him just a tier down the top SFs of the league, and right together with the Pierce and Grangers of the NBA.

If you consider him a mediocre player, either you've never seen him play or your Raptors bias is severely clouding your judgment. And to prevent and accusation of "hate", know that I'm an Italian fan who mostly follows Italian players. If anything I'm biased pro-Bargs.

[scottcarman]

Denver fan here. Gallo is considered one of the top players on the Nuggets and I don't think they would trade him for Bargs.

Last year he held opposing SF to a PER around 12 while posting near 17 himself. The league average is 15. Not only that but his basketball IQ is probably the highest on the team (maybe Dre Miller or Lawson). He has a lot of intangibles that don't show up on the stat sheet. His on court/off court difference is the highet of anyone on the team. Denver hopes that he can stay healthy and expect that his 3 pt % will come back to career averages, but are pretty happy in general. Yes, Denvr has options at the SF but they also have players with a history of injuries. I think Denver will stick with this team unless a good 2 for 1 or 3 or 1 for an elite player is available but that is unlikely. With basically evey starter and bench player signed for several yeas, this team will have the advantage of continuity for many years.

[Yoga]

Toronto is now 1-5 and desperately need a trade to shake up the roster

[Mr Swagtastic]

Toronto is now 1-5 and desperately need a trade to shake up the roster

after 6 games? I mean why? Lowry is injured and he would have been the difference maker in this game. Calderon and Lucas can't guard anybody and guys like Thad Young and Wright were going off on us. We need Lowry back soon.

The Gallo for Bargs swap is a no brainer for me. The Bargs for Wilson Chandler and their first is a no go if I am Toronto. Chandler isn't that good he's a guy I would want with Bargs on the team not a guy I swap him for just to get a late first.

[Yoga]

Further added from original post:

Denver In: Kleiza, Bargnani
Denver Out: Gallinari, Mozgov

Toronto In: Gallinari, Mozgov
Toronto Out: Kleiza, Bargnani


We get our starting SF (Gallinari) and back up center (Mozgov) to Jonas V

Denver gets 3 pt shooting in Bargnani and a backup SF in Kleiza

[BossHoggin]

Further added from original post:

Denver In: Kleiza, Bargnani
Denver Out: Gallinari, Mozgov

Toronto In: Gallinari, Mozgov
Toronto Out: Kleiza, Bargnani


We get our starting SF (Gallinari) and back up center (Mozgov) to Jonas V

Denver gets 3 pt shooting in Bargnani and a backup SF in Kleiza

DEN/TOR discussion: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1211103&p=33523621

Gallo > your players

Kleiza is overpaid and not positive value. So he widens the gap on Bargnani and Gallinari. Who cares about Mozgov.

[NashtyNas]

Further added from original post:

Denver In: Kleiza, Bargnani
Denver Out: Gallinari, Mozgov

Toronto In: Gallinari, Mozgov
Toronto Out: Kleiza, Bargnani


We get our starting SF (Gallinari) and back up center (Mozgov) to Jonas V

Denver gets 3 pt shooting in Bargnani and a backup SF in Kleiza

DEN/TOR discussion: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1211103&p=33523621

Gallo > your players

Kleiza is overpaid and not positive value. So he widens the gap on Bargnani and Gallinari. Who cares about Mozgov.

Do you remember just a few seasons ago, when Carmelo was out, Nuggets (and their fans on RealGM) were refusing to include Klieza in talks for superstars. Oh, how times change...

Nonetheless, Denver doesn't touch this. Gallinari is better, period. Jambo kid doesn't know what he's talking about, Bargs is nice but the guy doesn't care. Gallo is younger, a better defender and rebounder and can play multiple positions. He's a better handler and he's a more efficient scorer, and to say that's not true when evidence proves otherwise would just make you ignorant... AF.

[Manimal]

Well it wasn't exactly for 'superstars'...it was more like Ron Artest. Which I consider a moot point because I wouldn't want either player at this point. And when the Nuggets had a chance to match the RFA offer the Raps gave him when he came from Europe every Denver fan was saying hell **** no. He's a decent bench player but has significant flaws and was overpaid the second he signed his contract.


And no one in their right mind would give up Gallo for Bargs. The only advantage Bargnani may have is slightly better 3pt shooting. He's worse in every other way.