KOTB- The Last Stand MIL/MIN/DAL

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Re: KOTB- The Last Stand MIL/MIN/DAL 

Post#21 » by HartfordWhalers » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:54 pm

Pretty sure this is lingering and has a few yes votes with not quite as many clear no's.


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f you believe all teams would accept this trade, vote yes. If you believe otherwise, vote no. Please explain your vote
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Re: KOTB- The Last Stand MIL/MIN/DAL 

Post#22 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:44 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Pretty sure this is lingering and has a few yes votes with not quite as many clear no's.


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f you believe all teams would accept this trade, vote yes. If you believe otherwise, vote no. Please explain your vote


Well that failed to get more feedback at the time. Moving it to the failed to get 5 yes's category, but with how Mayo has looked I think it has turned into a clear no from Dallas.
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Re: KOTB- The Last Stand MIL/MIN/DAL 

Post#23 » by zapatasblood » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:55 pm

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shrink wrote:It's interesting when you write it this way. Since I see this deal as DAL looking ahead, I don't agree with your contention:

Mayo vs Roy: DAL loss -- Next year, Roy will be released with his team option, so it's nothing vs nothing. This year, Mayo is playing, and he got paid perhaps a little under market.

Dahntay vs Ridnour: DAL slight win: -- the question comes down to whether you think Ridnour is worth $4.3 next year. I'd say that's a decent price - many posters from other teams are OK with it too.

Kaman vs D Williams: DAL win: Again, since Kaman is an expiring, it's a question of whether Williams is worth his rookie scale contract next year. I think the answer has to be yes. Sure, it's fair to be unimpressed with the bulk of his work, but there is no denying the athleticism and potential. Williams is averaging 10.3 PPG, 5.7 RPG. If he did this every game, I'd say, "meh." However, he has fits and starts. Two games back, he 4 pts and 5 RB. Last game, he had 23 PTS, 7 RB and 4 BLKS. With top picks, you look at flashes of brilliance, and Williams still has those -- amidst the majority of mediocrity. I think that means he still has value for a team that is looking for upside.


I disagree.
It is not out of the question that the Mavs resign both of Mayo and Kaman. In fact i would recommend it if (and we most likely will) strike out again in free agency. Kaman is Dallas only true center right now....
And in comparison to Dwilliams and Roy, they could help you win some games. If Dallas decides to tank ( which they won't with Dirk being healthy and if he is out for the season, it does not matter anyways), they should get better rental value plain and simple. Mayo is a complete bargain this year. And so is Kaman.

Roy is done. Especially as a future asset for a rebuilding franchise.

DWilliams does nothing for Dallas. If he ever puts it together, he will do it as a PF. Dirk will occupy that spot
for the next 2 years. Even if DWill breaks out and plays great, he won't start over Dirk during that timespan. Don't think that a backup will garner you much in a trade.
Afterwards you have to pay him if you want to annoint him to Dirks successor.
I don't see anything that makes me believe that you want to have him as a cornerstone of your franchise. Still would rather pay and have Mayo going forward.

Dahntay is a very serviceable defender at the 2 spot. Ridnour is a good backup PG. If we however downgrade massively from Kaman and Mayo to Roy and Williams, we really don't need one. Beaubois, Jones and Cunningham are 3 1st round picks which compete for this spot. I rather see what they can do if we don't care about winning at all this season.

If it is likely they strike out again then it is best they begin to rebuild. If the team they have now is average then why would it be any better? Dirk is old and falling apart. Not long until he retires so it would be best to get something for him now. It’d time for Dallas to rebuild and Dirk, Mayo, and Kaman are pieces that better playoff teams need.
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Re: KOTB- The Last Stand MIL/MIN/DAL 

Post#24 » by shrink » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:30 pm

With the new rumor that Glen Taylor may go over the lux next year, this adds value for MIN. It's possible they would bring one of these guys back, so it would not only help this this year, but provide a no-risk audition for 2013.
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Re: KOTB- The Last Stand MIL/MIN/DAL 

Post#25 » by SO_MONEY » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:47 pm

Dallas is not trying to take on salary for next year IMHO.

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