Page 2 of 2

Re: Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:30 am
by City of Trees
sportscrazy wrote:How many centers do the Kings have now?

Depends on if you count WCS and Skal as a Center, buuutttttt.....

1. Cousins
2. WCS
3. Koufus
4. Papagiannis
5. Skal

Kings dare you.
Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

Re: Re: Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:34 am
by Beam Me Up Foxy
City of Trees wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:How many centers do the Kings have now?

Depends on if you count WCS and Skal as a Center, buuutttttt.....

1. Cousins
2. WCS
3. Koufus
4. Papagiannis
5. Skal

Kings dare you.
Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

I think cousins is going g to the lakers for Lou, Russell and Ingram.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:44 am
by N.O.R.E.
Texas Chuck wrote:Jaylen at 3. Boston making all their 1st round picks. So disappoint. Makes no sense.


I wouldn't have gone with Jaylen at #3 either.

Having said that, it looks to me that Ainge get's a little high on himself, and is reported to try hard to "win" trades.

The Celtics draft shows me that Ainge has perhaps overplayed his hand in Round 1, and is now preserving cap for Round 2 - FA.

I wouldn't fancy my Durant odds, but coupled with the assets to acquire pretty much any other star, it's still a fairly enviable position to be in.

Based on a typical kneejerk reaction of the Nets' most recent moves, those Brooklyn picks are still looking pretty damn good.
The #22 got the Hornets Bellinelli, leading into the draft we all tend to get wrapped in the frenzy.

The sky isn't falling IMO, this just means Ainge may have over played his hand but was smart enough not to be lured into making a panic move.

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:28 am
by MrPerfect1
Has to be Thon at 10 or Brown at 3. BOS making 0 big trades was very predictable and should have 0 votes. Ainge only makes a deal if it is a super ripoff

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:53 am
by GopherIt!
tie:

Raps drafting a center
Bucks pick Thong Faker
Magic trading for Ibaka
Kings drafting another center

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:10 am
by bondom34
I took a nap and woke up and Serge was gone.

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:14 am
by SactoKingsFan
Definitely Kings trading 8 and then picking
Papagiannis at 13.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:16 am
by getrichordie
bondom34 wrote:I took a nap and woke up and Serge was gone.


I knew Serge was going to be traded but I didn't know it would be this good of a deal for us. I really like it. It looks great. We have solid pieces to rebuild if Durant leaves and have solid role players if Durant stays. A more balanced squad while we get to experiment with draft and stash.

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:39 am
by Cactus Jack
Brown was surprising. The Ibaka deal made me jump out of my seat. But, I was really underwhelmed by Boston & Sacramento's picks for the most part.

Re: Re: Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:08 am
by sportscrazy
BOOGIE-MONSTER wrote:
City of Trees wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:How many centers do the Kings have now?

Depends on if you count WCS and Skal as a Center, buuutttttt.....

1. Cousins
2. WCS
3. Koufus
4. Papagiannis
5. Skal

Kings dare you.
Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

I think cousins is going g to the lakers for Lou, Russell and Ingram.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk


I can't quite put my finger on the deal, but something where Houston gets Vucevic, Orlando gets Cousins, Gay and Beverley and Sacramento gets their choice of two or all three of Mario Hezonja, Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton..

C-DeMarcus Cousins
PF-Serge Ibaka
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-Evan Fournier
PG-Patrick Beverley

That team under Vogel could really do well in the East considering Orlando has cap space left for a really solid second unit.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:10 am
by Beam Me Up Foxy
sportscrazy wrote:
BOOGIE-MONSTER wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Depends on if you count WCS and Skal as a Center, buuutttttt.....

1. Cousins
2. WCS
3. Koufus
4. Papagiannis
5. Skal

Kings dare you.
Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

I think cousins is going g to the lakers for Lou, Russell and Ingram.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk


I can't quite put my finger on the deal, but something where Houston gets Vucevic, Orlando gets Cousins, Gay and Beverley and Sacramento gets their choice of two or all three of Mario Hezonja, Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton..

C-DeMarcus Cousins
PF-Serge Ibaka
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-Evan Fournier
PG-Patrick Beverley

That team under Vogel could really do well in the East considering Orlando has cap space left for a really solid second unit.

Yeah thay simply doesn't have enough value for cousins alone, let alone cousins and gay from Sacramento's pov.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Re: Re: Re: Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:26 am
by sportscrazy
BOOGIE-MONSTER wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:
BOOGIE-MONSTER wrote:I think cousins is going g to the lakers for Lou, Russell and Ingram.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk


I can't quite put my finger on the deal, but something where Houston gets Vucevic, Orlando gets Cousins, Gay and Beverley and Sacramento gets their choice of two or all three of Mario Hezonja, Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton..

C-DeMarcus Cousins
PF-Serge Ibaka
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-Evan Fournier
PG-Patrick Beverley

That team under Vogel could really do well in the East considering Orlando has cap space left for a really solid second unit.

Yeah thay simply doesn't have enough value for cousins alone, let alone cousins and gay from Sacramento's pov.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk


How far off is it? Removing Gay and adding draft picks kind of off or total non-starter kind of off?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:30 am
by sportscrazy
sportscrazy wrote:
BOOGIE-MONSTER wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:
I can't quite put my finger on the deal, but something where Houston gets Vucevic, Orlando gets Cousins, Gay and Beverley and Sacramento gets their choice of two or all three of Mario Hezonja, Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton..

C-DeMarcus Cousins
PF-Serge Ibaka
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-Evan Fournier
PG-Patrick Beverley

That team under Vogel could really do well in the East considering Orlando has cap space left for a really solid second unit.

Yeah thay simply doesn't have enough value for cousins alone, let alone cousins and gay from Sacramento's pov.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk


How far off is it? Removing Gay and adding draft picks kind of off or total non-starter kind of off?


The reason I ask is because there could be different variations possibly involving sending Payton to Philly for the Kings 2019 pick, sending Vucevic to Chicago for Lopez and the conditional Kings pick then sending Aaron Gordon, Mario Hezonja and those two picks plus a pick or two from Orlando for just Cousins?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:33 am
by Beam Me Up Foxy
sportscrazy wrote:
BOOGIE-MONSTER wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:
I can't quite put my finger on the deal, but something where Houston gets Vucevic, Orlando gets Cousins, Gay and Beverley and Sacramento gets their choice of two or all three of Mario Hezonja, Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton..

C-DeMarcus Cousins
PF-Serge Ibaka
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-Evan Fournier
PG-Patrick Beverley

That team under Vogel could really do well in the East considering Orlando has cap space left for a really solid second unit.

Yeah thay simply doesn't have enough value for cousins alone, let alone cousins and gay from Sacramento's pov.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk


How far off is it? Removing Gay and adding draft picks kind of off or total non-starter kind of off?

Probably in between. Depends on the picks honestly. I think the kings either have a trade for Koufos lined up for a PG, or are hedging their bets against a Cousins trade either now or at the deadline. To me it felt like the kings were stockpiling assets because they've traded so many away. Other than the papagiannis pick I think the kings had a strong draft. Though I wanted Luwawu at 22 and either Murray or Ulis at 28.

Valentine, Luwawu and Murray would have been an amazing draft for the Kings purposes in the backcourt.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:28 pm
by wickerhd
Brown pick was only a surprise because there was so much talk about trades and Dunn. 3 to 7 was always the same five players, just mixed in different ways. Brown best fit the current Celtics squad. Thon was the big shock to me.


Sent from my iPad using RealGM Forums

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:41 pm
by Woody Allen
Not that "Ibaka was traded" but the trade itself was the biggest shocker. Jaylen Brown/Thon Maker type of picks literally happen every draft.

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:54 pm
by machu46
I'm surprised how many votes Jaylen Brown considering it's been reported for weeks now that Danny Ainge was in love with him. I can understand being kinda surprised by it, but for example, the Papagiannis pick was far more out of left field.

Re: Biggest shock of the 1st round

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:10 pm
by HartfordWhalers
I wasn't the lone vote for no Sixers trades.