Trade Market Picking Up?

[MoneyTalks41890]

Russ-Exum-Hayward-Lyles-Gobert with a bench of Burks, Hill, Johnson, and Diaw is pretty nasty.




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OKC has 20 mil to spend, so assuming they get a half decent PF, Russ/Dipo/Roberson/PF/Adams with a Payne/Morrow/Ersan/Sabonis/Kanter bench won't be bad either. He'd be good on Utah no doubt, but I'm not sold they're better than OKC just yet. Close though, depends on what OKC does the next few weeks. Maybe Crabbe too.

I can see Presti mail it in, or try to get a RFA or 2.

Which SFs are still out there or available for trade relatively cheap?

OKC really needs shooting on the wing now more than ever.

I really hope Russ stays, but Presti has to retool for that to be an option. And if LA offered Ingram and Russell at the deadline and Russ wasn't ready to commit, I think I'd have to take it.

Right now I'm really struggling with the idea that Dion might be back for big money now and that Singler or Morrow might start at SF...


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[Jazzy13]

Don't know, but honestly right now I don't know if they're a worse team than Utah (no offense there either), so either way, would he stay?

Russ-Exum-Hayward-Lyles-Gobert with a bench of Burks, Hill, Johnson, and Diaw is pretty nasty.




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Exum would never start at the 2 for us. And losing Hood is a major blow to Utah as we dont have anyone to replace his skillset and he's under team control for at least 5+ more years including RFA. Westbrook has a very high chance of leaving us so I cant justfiyy giving up Favors/Hood/Lyles. Its just too much for 1 season.

Johnson is too old to start and play major minutes and Hayward has bulked up so much hes primarily a 3.

[Blue Wolf]

The way the Kings roster is currently set up, it is clear that they need another PG. Right now Garrett Temple is slated to get a decent amount of minutes there. The team has a glut of wings. It is also suspected that Koufus could be on his way out with Papagianis around. Most Kings fans believe that the team's trade block is something like this, according to rumors

Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Kostas Koufus

The team would love to get a PG, especially with Collison likely getting suspended for a decent chunk of games.

Tyus Jones?

[Chinook]

I could see the Spurs offering Patty for a big. They shouldn't have to, as they still have some salary unclaimed, but obviously, you can't sign everyone you can trade for. The Spurs have a number of really interesting guard prospects, including Olivier Hanlan that they got from Utah. Patty may well be gone next year anyway, so starting the process of moving onto the next generation makes some sense.

Dunno if there are takers for him, though. By that same token, could see Simmons on the block as well.

[Blue Wolf]

Sixers have to cut or trade someone assuming Saric does come over.

Kendall Marshall, Landry, or Hollis Thompson - 1 of them should be gone without Saric and 2 with him.

Or they just dump a big, but the roster isn't it unbalanced on bodies (talent yes).

Marshall might or might get a take, but if Hollis is outgoing he should get a 2nd. Kinda think Landry is gone.

Yes, Sixers need to sell SG/SF Hollis Thompson for a 2nd rounder to open a roster spot. He is paid only $1M this year and can shoot 40% from 3 point range. Who wants to give a 2nd for him?

Also, PF Carl Landry loses his spot when Dario Saric arrives. Landry is paid $6.5M on an expiring contract this year. Who wants him for free?

In addition, anyone can also have PG Kendall Marshall. He has a $2M unguaranteed contract for this year, with 2 unguaranteed years at similar money after that. Who wants him for free?

Wolves send Payne (cheap buyout) for Landry and Thompson/2nd.

[Smitty731]

I would guess at least 75-80% of the people I have talked to expect Westbrook to sign with the Lakers. Apparently it is a fairly known thing that he wants to play for the Lakers. Those same people figured he would stay in OKC as long as Durant was there.

One thing that came up today, and I'm gonna drop a Summer League Notes on the Dallas, OKC and NY forums later tonight, is that Russ is apparently very hurt, not by KD leaving, but it coming out that KD didn't really like playing with him. Also, I learned that Russ apparently doesn't like Harden all that much either. It sounds like he's kind of prickly, which I think we all know.

So, while I don't think it is by any means a lock he's leaving, most people expect to see him move on.

[KINGWIN033]

Russ-Exum-Hayward-Lyles-Gobert with a bench of Burks, Hill, Johnson, and Diaw is pretty nasty.




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OKC has 20 mil to spend, so assuming they get a half decent PF, Russ/Dipo/Roberson/PF/Adams with a Payne/Morrow/Ersan/Sabonis/Kanter bench won't be bad either. He'd be good on Utah no doubt, but I'm not sold they're better than OKC just yet. Close though, depends on what OKC does the next few weeks. Maybe Crabbe too.

I can see Presti mail it in, or try to get a RFA or 2.

Which SFs are still out there or available for trade relatively cheap?

OKC really needs shooting on the wing now more than ever.

I really hope Russ stays, but Presti has to retool for that to be an option. And if LA offered Ingram and Russell at the deadline and Russ wasn't ready to commit, I think I'd have to take it.

Right now I'm really struggling with the idea that Dion might be back for big money now and that Singler or Morrow might start at SF...


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I dunno why lakers would trade for Russ, when they are probably the favorites to sign him in FA. They should use that package to try to get Demarcus cousins to pair him with Russ.

[Birdie]

OKC has 20 mil to spend, so assuming they get a half decent PF, Russ/Dipo/Roberson/PF/Adams with a Payne/Morrow/Ersan/Sabonis/Kanter bench won't be bad either. He'd be good on Utah no doubt, but I'm not sold they're better than OKC just yet. Close though, depends on what OKC does the next few weeks. Maybe Crabbe too.

I can see Presti mail it in, or try to get a RFA or 2.

Which SFs are still out there or available for trade relatively cheap?

OKC really needs shooting on the wing now more than ever.

I really hope Russ stays, but Presti has to retool for that to be an option. And if LA offered Ingram and Russell at the deadline and Russ wasn't ready to commit, I think I'd have to take it.

Right now I'm really struggling with the idea that Dion might be back for big money now and that Singler or Morrow might start at SF...


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I dunno why lakers would trade for Russ, when they are probably the favorites to sign him in FA. They should use that package to try to get Demarcus cousins to pair him with Russ.

It's gonna be NYK all over again where LAL will give up a bunch of pieces just so Russ can secure his Bird rights escalators as opposed to just out right signing him without Bird rights.

If LAL were smart, they'd hold onto DRuss/Randle/Ingrahm as trade chips AFTER signing Russ to further bolster their roster around Russ instead of giving OKC all their young talent.

But seeing as how LAL are getting raked over the coals with Mozzy deal, I expect LAL to give up assets to get this done and have piece of mind when it's just not necessary.

Yo bondom, what are you guys doin at SF now? Obv. Roberson/Singler ain't the answer. Too bad you can't pawn off Kanter back to Utah for Gordo, he'd be a nice stopgap. The athletic 3-D wing with length is the new unicorn in this league where if you have one, team isn't letting go of them and if you NEED one, good luck. Damn you HOU, give CLE Ariza, you're not going anywhere.

[Andre Roberstan]

I would guess at least 75-80% of the people I have talked to expect Westbrook to sign with the Lakers. Apparently it is a fairly known thing that he wants to play for the Lakers. Those same people figured he would stay in OKC as long as Durant was there.

One thing that came up today, and I'm gonna drop a Summer League Notes on the Dallas, OKC and NY forums later tonight, is that Russ is apparently very hurt, not by KD leaving, but it coming out that KD didn't really like playing with him. Also, I learned that Russ apparently doesn't like Harden all that much either. It sounds like he's kind of prickly, which I think we all know.

So, while I don't think it is by any means a lock he's leaving, most people expect to see him move on.

Royce was saying today on the radio that the rumors about Russ and KD's relationship were "100%" from Durant's camp, and he thought the Beck piece source and the original Durant to Warriors Woj piece were from the same source too. Said also they're trying to convince him to stay.

[AingesBurner]

I would guess at least 75-80% of the people I have talked to expect Westbrook to sign with the Lakers. Apparently it is a fairly known thing that he wants to play for the Lakers. Those same people figured he would stay in OKC as long as Durant was there.

One thing that came up today, and I'm gonna drop a Summer League Notes on the Dallas, OKC and NY forums later tonight, is that Russ is apparently very hurt, not by KD leaving, but it coming out that KD didn't really like playing with him. Also, I learned that Russ apparently doesn't like Harden all that much either. It sounds like he's kind of prickly, which I think we all know.

So, while I don't think it is by any means a lock he's leaving, most people expect to see him move on.

Royce was saying today on the radio that the rumors about Russ and KD's relationship were "100%" from Durant's camp, and he thought the Beck piece source and the original Durant to Warriors Woj piece were from the same source too. Said also they're trying to convince him to stay.

So they are still trying to convince him to stay?


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[buckboy]

I have no idea why Utah would give up the those kinds of assets for Russ. He's not going to sign there. That's crazy to me.

I don't know why anyone other than a handful of teams would consider him unless the price is drastically reduced.

Man, KD screwed OKC.

[AingesBurner]

I have no idea why Utah would give up the those kinds of assets for Russ. He's not going to sign there. That's crazy to me.

I don't know why anyone other than a handful of teams would consider him unless the price is drastically reduced.

Man, KD screwed OKC.

Right, I thought today that if Presti even had any inclination that KD was leaving for GSW he should have at least swapped him with Klay Thompson in February.


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[Smitty731]

I would guess at least 75-80% of the people I have talked to expect Westbrook to sign with the Lakers. Apparently it is a fairly known thing that he wants to play for the Lakers. Those same people figured he would stay in OKC as long as Durant was there.

One thing that came up today, and I'm gonna drop a Summer League Notes on the Dallas, OKC and NY forums later tonight, is that Russ is apparently very hurt, not by KD leaving, but it coming out that KD didn't really like playing with him. Also, I learned that Russ apparently doesn't like Harden all that much either. It sounds like he's kind of prickly, which I think we all know.

So, while I don't think it is by any means a lock he's leaving, most people expect to see him move on.

Royce was saying today on the radio that the rumors about Russ and KD's relationship were "100%" from Durant's camp, and he thought the Beck piece source and the original Durant to Warriors Woj piece were from the same source too. Said also they're trying to convince him to stay.

So they are still trying to convince him to stay?


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I can confirm that the team is trying to pull a DeAndre Jordan-lite situation. They are asking him to re-consider before the end of the moratorium. But Russ is not part of it.

And I can also confirm that KD says there is no chance and he's made his decision.

[Andre Roberstan]

Royce was saying today on the radio that the rumors about Russ and KD's relationship were "100%" from Durant's camp, and he thought the Beck piece source and the original Durant to Warriors Woj piece were from the same source too. Said also they're trying to convince him to stay.

So they are still trying to convince him to stay?


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I can confirm that the team is trying to pull a DeAndre Jordan-lite situation. They are asking him to re-consider before the end of the moratorium. But Russ is not part of it.

And I can also confirm that KD says there is no chance and he's made his decision.

Oh--wasn't referring to KD. That's pretty interesting, though.

Was referring to trying to convince Russ to stay long-term.

[AingesBurner]

Royce was saying today on the radio that the rumors about Russ and KD's relationship were "100%" from Durant's camp, and he thought the Beck piece source and the original Durant to Warriors Woj piece were from the same source too. Said also they're trying to convince him to stay.

So they are still trying to convince him to stay?


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I can confirm that the team is trying to pull a DeAndre Jordan-lite situation. They are asking him to re-consider before the end of the moratorium. But Russ is not part of it.

And I can also confirm that KD says there is no chance and he's made his decision.

Wow they are desperate and honestly made they should promise him they will trade Russ before the start of the season.


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[Kings2013]

The way the Kings roster is currently set up, it is clear that they need another PG. Right now Garrett Temple is slated to get a decent amount of minutes there. The team has a glut of wings. It is also suspected that Koufus could be on his way out with Papagianis around. Most Kings fans believe that the team's trade block is something like this, according to rumors

Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Kostas Koufus

The team would love to get a PG, especially with Collison likely getting suspended for a decent chunk of games.

Yeah. I doubt we can get anything for Ben

Rudy and Kosta are solid but superfluous or not perfect fits. I'm a bit worried about both of their markets, but they are solid rotation players if nothing comes up.

In the end I think they'll stay as market might not reach talent in their cases

[OleSchool]

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[brackdan70]

Unless Westbrook is up for grabs.


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Conversation starts with Hood.

I proposed on the Utah board Hood, Lyles, Burks, and a first or two or Hood and Favors, that's probably the strongest bid OKC gets IMHO


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Hood and Favors is a really strong offer for one year of westbrook. In my opinion the Jazz should not consider that at all. Hood, Lyles, Burks, and a first or two seems like a fair offer. Would be interesting to see what goes down if he hits the market.

[AingesBurner]

Conversation starts with Hood.

I proposed on the Utah board Hood, Lyles, Burks, and a first or two or Hood and Favors, that's probably the strongest bid OKC gets IMHO


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Hood and Favors is a really strong offer for one year of westbrook. In my opinion the Jazz should not consider that at all. Hood, Lyles, Burks, and a first or two seems like a fair offer. Would be interesting to see what goes down if he hits the market.

I don't know but I think Lyles might be better than Favors.


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[brackdan70]

I proposed on the Utah board Hood, Lyles, Burks, and a first or two or Hood and Favors, that's probably the strongest bid OKC gets IMHO


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Hood and Favors is a really strong offer for one year of westbrook. In my opinion the Jazz should not consider that at all. Hood, Lyles, Burks, and a first or two seems like a fair offer. Would be interesting to see what goes down if he hits the market.

I don't know but I think Lyles might be better than Favors.


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thats going to be a few years if at all right? you know better than I, but I don't see that. Favors is a solid 2 way player that always has a positive impact.