Buy low, sell highs? Whose trade value will change significantly before the trade deadline?

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Re: Buy low, sell highs? Whose trade value will change significantly before the trade deadline? 

Post#21 » by sportscrazy » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:54 pm

I think Pat Riley plays the market just right on Goran Dragic through the deadline and as teams realize Westbrook, Cousins, Butler, Griffin, etc. are not realistic targets, Dragic will suddenly be the hottest realistic name on the trading block with a bit of a bidding war taking place between interested teams that need to take that next step whether it be sealing the deal with a trade for a playoff spot or to enter that upper crust of contenders and separate from the middle of the pack.
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Post#22 » by Smitty731 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:36 pm

I like the Dragic pick. They think he could contend for the scoring title and I don't disagree.

My picks:

Higher:

1. Victor Oladipo - He's going have a chance to do some really good things this year. And if Westbrook goes, he might be the best scorer on the team.

2. Derrick Rose - Yup. I think he's going to bounce back and be really good. Not MVP level good (he wasn't really anyway, even when he won it), but good enough that someone will give him a big contract next summer.

3. Ketavious Caldwell-Pope - I think he develops in to one of the best two way SGs in the entire league this year. I wouldn't be shocked to see him be a fringe All-Star candidate.

4. Rodney Hood - The Jazz have the chance to be really good. They added so much in terms of smart players. I think Hood is the one who benefits the most. Career year coming.

Lower:

1. Dwyane Wade - This might be cheating a little. I think outside of the Miami bubble, people might see that he's slipped quite a bit. And the fit is bad with Rondo, it might make him look worse than he is now.

2. Monta Ellis - He should be a scoring guard off the bench. He's not a very good with Teague. I think his value will plummet. Unless the Pacers do bring him off the bench. Then I take back what I just wrote.

3. Aaron Gordon - He's not a SF. Unless he really does come back with a great jumper, he's going to struggle. I see a lot of 85-80 games in Orlando's future. I'm just not sure Gordon will have quite the shine as he has now.

4. Chris Paul - I have nothing to back this up, but I feel like a slip is coming. That entire team has a questionable vibe and guys are openly talking about how tough he can be to play with. Is this the year his play falls off?
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Post#23 » by Mamba4Goat » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:44 pm

Slava wrote:Higher:

Rodney Hood
Kelly Oubre
Bradley Beal
Blake Griffin
Serge Ibaka

Lower:

Denis Schroeder
Bismack Biyombo
Ryan Anderson
Elfrid Payton
Rajon Rondo
Ricky Rubio

Why Rubio? Just curious.
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Post#24 » by Mamba4Goat » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:46 pm

Higher: Dragic
Lower: All of the Bulls guards
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Post#25 » by Sportfan73 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:47 pm

Higher: Okafor
Lower: Noel
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Post#26 » by Slava » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:52 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:
Slava wrote:Higher:

Rodney Hood
Kelly Oubre
Bradley Beal
Blake Griffin
Serge Ibaka

Lower:

Denis Schroeder
Bismack Biyombo
Ryan Anderson
Elfrid Payton
Rajon Rondo
Ricky Rubio

Why Rubio? Just curious.


Rubio needs a coach that's a bit more flexible and creative than Thibodeu. I can see Thibs favoring Dunn more due to his speed and ability to drive and kick on offense. Rubio is not that kind of a PG.
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Post#27 » by Devilzsidewalk » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:29 pm

Embiid's value will rocket up if he can get on the court.
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Post#28 » by Mamba4Goat » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:47 pm

Slava wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:
Slava wrote:Higher:

Rodney Hood
Kelly Oubre
Bradley Beal
Blake Griffin
Serge Ibaka

Lower:

Denis Schroeder
Bismack Biyombo
Ryan Anderson
Elfrid Payton
Rajon Rondo
Ricky Rubio

Why Rubio? Just curious.


Rubio needs a coach that's a bit more flexible and creative than Thibodeu. I can see Thibs favoring Dunn more due to his speed and ability to drive and kick on offense. Rubio is not that kind of a PG.

Fair enough, I can respect that.
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Re: Buy low, sell highs? Whose trade value will change significantly before the trade deadline? 

Post#29 » by Woody Allen » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:09 pm

Russell Westbrook is buy-low now. His trade value will shoot up with teams looking to get a more solid shot at the title and undervaluing their longer term assets (a trade deadline cliche).
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Post#30 » by Smitty731 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:34 pm

Woody Allen wrote:Russell Westbrook is buy-low now. His trade value will shoot up with teams looking to get a more solid shot at the title and undervaluing their longer term assets (a trade deadline cliche).


The only way Westbrook gets more valuable at the Deadline is if he is seen as the missing piece to beat Golden State or Cleveland. If not, his value will be the same as it is now. If anything, a little less because he could walk months later.
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Post#31 » by basketbob » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:42 pm

Trying not to repeat anyone else's.

Higher:
Kyle Anderson the spurs' next big thing
Brandon Jennings - finally mature enough
Mario Hezonja - opportunity
McBob - oh yeah, this guy can play

also Thon and Denzel from draft

Lower:
Wiggins - everyone expecting him to turn it up a notch and it just doesn't happen
Crabbe - oh, he's just a guy
MGasol - just a hunch he'll never be the same
A Davis - one injury away from starting to feel like Bill Walton
Rookie: Hield

And two from my Nuggets (sorry):
H: Nurkic is about to explode
L: Jamal Murray is not a point guard
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Post#32 » by pacers33granger » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:22 pm

Higher:
Jabari Parker - I except him to show everyone why he was the 2nd pick this season. Last year was a year coming back from a major injury and people seem to have his value much lower than I would have it.
Knight - after all the new deals his deal doesn't look bad at all and the team around him should be better.
Asik - his value can't be much worse and his deal is one year shorter
Gortat - steal of a contract in this environment

Lower:
Smart - closer to a new deal, and is not in a position to put up good stats. Everyone already knows about his stellar defense.
Delly - just don't see him playing well without Lebron and teams will realize you can find guys anyday who can do what he does for a minimum contract.
Olynyk - last scale year; I except him to go from minor cheap young piece in a trade to throw in.
Len - still has a lot to prove and looks like he'll be in line for a 20 mil a year deal even if he doesn't prove it.
Brook Lopez - fair or not, I can see some starting to label him as a career loser/dinosaur player
Winslow - with the team around him (assuming Bosh doesn't play) I don't see his defensive stats standing out much and his offense was putrid in SL
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Post#33 » by the_process » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:23 pm

Lower:

Victor Oladipo
CJ McCollum
Devin Booker
Jaylen Brown
D'Angelo Russell

Higher:

Jamal Murray
Bradley Beal
Harrison Barnes
Aaron Afflalo
Khris Middleton
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Post#34 » by blind prophet » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:03 am

oyoyer wrote:Lower:

Victor Oladipo
CJ McCollum
Devin Booker
Jaylen Brown
D'Angelo Russell

Higher:

Jamal Murray
Bradley Beal
Harrison Barnes
Aaron Afflalo
Khris Middleton


Interesting you think Afflalo may have higher value soon.

I think he signed in Sacramento because he had a great chance to start and they money was good. We sure need some help at SG. I hope you are right.
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Post#35 » by Karmaloop » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:10 am

oyoyer wrote:Lower:

Victor Oladipo
CJ McCollum
Devin Booker
Jaylen Brown
D'Angelo Russell


Putting aside your personal distaste of Russell, what makes you think that Russell is going to lose value? I mean, his value was pretty much in the toilet after his poor play on the court last season combined with the video taping incident. Short of him falling completely on his face, I can't envision a situation in which he's actually worse in terms of value next year.
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Post#36 » by HartfordWhalers » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:20 am

Karmaloop wrote:
oyoyer wrote:Lower:

Victor Oladipo
CJ McCollum
Devin Booker
Jaylen Brown
D'Angelo Russell


Putting aside your personal distaste of Russell, what makes you think that Russell is going to lose value? I mean, his value was pretty much in the toilet after his poor play on the court last season combined with the video taping incident. Short of him falling completely on his face, I can't envision a situation in which he's actually worse in terms of value next year.


Russell's value right now has to be straddling where he was picked (2nd) and his on the court performance (not first team rookie, etc.)

Either he plays up to his draft slot and his value will rise, or he continues to underperform it and his value will drop to match his performance. But I think Russell is definitely someone who could see a value change up or down.
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Post#37 » by sportscrazy » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:59 am

I think looking at guys that were highly rated in 2014-15, but had one down year in 2015-16 are good examples especially with the cap increase.. By this logic 3-and-D guys who could have major value by the deadline are Danny Green and Wesley Matthews.
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Post#38 » by LikeOkafor » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:07 am

People like Hood and Jabari probably won't increase in value much because their expected improvement is already baked into their current value. Teams would already be paying for that potential.

By the same token, i think this is the highest that Andrew Wiggins' trade value will ever be.
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Post#39 » by patman52 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:02 am

higher value
Okafor - I think he nails down the job with Philly and Emblid backing him
Rozier - yes a binkie but I think he makes a leap this his 2nd year .
Dwight Howard, I just think he fits in Atlanta andhim and Millsap tear up the boards and push each other.
Rudy Gay- well you can't get any lower so the only direction is up.

Less
Noel- I think Philly is resigned to letting him walk in '17 and he gets less min.
Butler- He is already making noise about paying SF and the season hasn't started yet, wait until Wade takes over his lockeroom.
draymont green, just due to the refs not letting him play his game. The NBA doesn't like calling fouls on stars, so I think he bears the brunt of the called fouls on his team as there is nobody else.
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Post#40 » by coordinator0 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:40 am

dbrandon wrote:Same with Tobias. He's a decent enough player, but if he doesn't improve much I think his value will go down—people are still looking at him with the "potential" flag.


For what it's worth Harris looked really good with the Pistons. A smaller sample size for sure, but if he just keeps up that level of play (disregarding potential) Detroit will be more than happy with him.

And for me to actually contribute to the topic...

Higher value: Al-Farouq Aminu. He's on a great contract and the addition of Turner, although expensive, should make the guys not named Lillard or McCollum better. I think Aminu would have taken a step forward all on his own regardless but I like him even more now. He's a big piece for Portland's versatility.

Lower value: Jeff Teague. I don't like his fit with the currently constructed Pacers team. In my opinion he's actually a downgrade from Hill. With Ellis and Young in the starting lineup while George will be rightfully having the ball in his hands a lot I'm not seeing it with Jeff. He's not a bd player b any means, but I think his value has taken a hit which is a shame for him in a contract year.

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