Back again: Getting OKC a wing

[Pillendreher]

Re moving Kanter: I'd reckon this teams would be interested to get a Center:

Nets: It might be time to move Lopez for his younger version.
Mavericks: Bogut is expiring and they might look to get younger.
Lakers: Mozgov was more of an 'desperation signing'
Pelicans: Asik and Ajinca aren't just that good.

Did I miss a team?

[Slava]

I still think Deng would be a great fit for the OKC team as constructed.

I really don't think Presti wants to spend 72/4 for a guy that turns 35 at the end of that contract.

When Presti is only willing to part with Kanter, Lauergne, Huestis and Singler, Presti won't be getting a 25 year old all star signed for $5M a year for the next 5 years. Presti needs to take what Pressti can get. Presti probably knows this.

[MoneyTalks41890]

So given that keeping cap open is not longer a priority, I think something with:

Payne, Singler

for

Covington, Bayless

Could be Sergio, but prob Bayless.

I really like Payne, but OKC is on the clock and can't really afford to wait. And I no longer have any illusions that OKC can get a real SF with a pile of mediocre assets.

[Pillendreher]

I still think Deng would be a great fit for the OKC team as constructed.

I really don't think Presti wants to spend 72/4 for a guy that turns 35 at the end of that contract.

When Presti is only willing to part with Kanter, Lauergne, Huestis and Singler, Presti won't be getting a 25 year old all star signed for $5M a year for the next 5 years. Presti needs to take what Pressti can get. Presti probably knows this.

You have a point and quite possiblity describe the problem of every trade idea

[giberish]

Re moving Kanter: I'd reckon this teams would be interested to get a Center:

Nets: It might be time to move Lopez for his younger version.
Mavericks: Bogut is expiring and they might look to get younger.
Lakers: Mozgov was more of an 'desperation signing'
Pelicans: Asik and Ajinca aren't just that good.

Did I miss a team?

Nets: Lopez is better then Kanter, what incentive is OKC giving to get the Nets to consider this??
Dallas: A possibility, though for now they can play Dirk at center for a strong O/weak D option.
Lakers: They wouldn't want another expensive, mediocre center in addition to Mozgov and OKC wouldn't want Mozgov back in the deal.
Pelicans: Similar to the Lakers, they end up with too much money tied up in mediocre or worse centers unless they send one back out.

Of those 4 teams I really only see Dallas as a maybe, with the other 3 as nos.

[basketballwacko2]

How about this:

Kanter to Houston
Gay and Corey Brewer to OKC
Ariza to the kings

[nowyouknow]

Kanter for Matthews makes sense... but Matthews is a SG.

[patman52]

I still think Deng would be a great fit for the OKC team as constructed.

I really don't think Presti wants to spend 72/4 for a guy that turns 35 at the end of that contract.

35? Mathews just turned 30 this month. He will play his last year at 32YO, not liking the deal is one thing but no need to add 3 years to the guys age to add to your position.

[Pillendreher]

I still think Deng would be a great fit for the OKC team as constructed.

I really don't think Presti wants to spend 72/4 for a guy that turns 35 at the end of that contract.

35? Mathews just turned 30 this month. He will play his last year at 32YO, not liking the deal is one thing but no need to add 3 years to the guys age to add to your position.

You quoted Slava talking about Deng.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Abrines
Kanter
2 seconds

for

Allen Crabbe

Makes too much sense for both sides.

[patman52]

Shelvin Mack and Alex Burks to Philly
Covington + Sergio to OKC
Payne + Korkmaz to Utah

Utah frees up 11 mill Yearly in the next three years to keep Hayward, and gets a better BU PG who may allow Hill to walk in June and a stash player
Philly gets outside shooting and a pg
OKC gets a cheap wing.

[HartfordWhalers]

Shelvin Mack and Alex Burks to Philly
Covington + Sergio to OKC
Payne + Korkmaz to Utah

Utah frees up 11 mill Yearly in the next three years to keep Hayward, and gets a better BU PG who may allow Hill to walk in June and a stash player
Philly gets outside shooting and a pg
OKC gets a cheap wing.

That is brutal to Philly.

You have Covington and Sergio = Payne, but then Philly sends Payne and Korkmaz to Utah for Mack and Burks? Utah would easily get cut out there. (And OKC is not matching contracts)

[HartfordWhalers]

Not thrilled w/ Covington but I'd debate that one. But McConnell wouldn't cut it for a backup PG.

McConnell already cuts it as a backup pg, I think your take on him is off.

And more generally, I think in any trade where Payne goes out OKC doesn't really need to get back a pg. Semaj can be the backup and third string pg's are always available in free agency (just not Price again).

[Pillendreher]

And more generally, I think in any trade where Payne goes out OKC doesn't really need to get back a pg. Semaj can be the backup and third string pg's are always available in free agency (just not Price again).

I don't know about Christon. He seems to be explosive, but hasn't really shown any finishing ability so far. He reminds me of Jackson, just (way?) worse. As of right now, I'm happy if he's giving us anything at all. I'll take it and wait eagerly for Cam to come back.

[yanuary]

I still think Deng would be a great fit for the OKC team as constructed.

But OKC will pay over 100 mln $ next year for RW-Payne-Dipo-Singler-Albrines-Sabonis-Kanter-Adams
I cant see any OKC-LAL trade possibilty. Do you?

[HartfordWhalers]

I still think Deng would be a great fit for the OKC team as constructed.

But OKC will pay over 100 mln $ next year for RW-Payne-Dipo-Singler-Albrines-Sabonis-Kanter-Adams
I cant see any OKC-LAL trade possibilty. Do you?

If it weren't for Mozgov, a Kanter Deng swap could've made sense as a basis. But with Movgov I see no way.

[stitches]

Bojan Bogdanovic for future first?

[yanuary]

I still think Deng would be a great fit for the OKC team as constructed.

But OKC will pay over 100 mln $ next year for RW-Payne-Dipo-Singler-Albrines-Sabonis-Kanter-Adams
I cant see any OKC-LAL trade possibilty. Do you?

If it weren't for Mozgov, a Kanter Deng swap could've made sense as a basis. But with Movgov I see no way.

Of course, and tbh in this season its hard to find team which really want receive center in trade (ask Nets and Sixers...), especially with poor defense so i cant see even 3way trade possibilities.

[patman52]

Shelvin Mack and Alex Burks to Philly
Covington + Sergio to OKC
Payne + Korkmaz to Utah

Utah frees up 11 mill Yearly in the next three years to keep Hayward, and gets a better BU PG who may allow Hill to walk in June and a stash player
Philly gets outside shooting and a pg
OKC gets a cheap wing.

That is brutal to Philly.

You have Covington and Sergio = Payne, but then Philly sends Payne and Korkmaz to Utah for Mack and Burks? Utah would easily get cut out there. (And OKC is not matching contracts)

I gave Philly an outside shooter and a pg
Utah cap space
and OKC a wing.

I thought long term the 6ers are going PG in Next years draft and they want someone now to play the point. Payne is not available until Jan due to his injury. I think Mack can play some at the 3. And I expect Saric to get some time there when Simmons returns. Utah has other guys to play the point the first 3 months while they wait for Payne.

Subbing McConnell and keeping Sergio would work if Philly doesn't mind the extra 7 mill in salary, but I would not call it Brutal.

[patman52]

I really don't think Presti wants to spend 72/4 for a guy that turns 35 at the end of that contract.

35? Mathews just turned 30 this month. He will play his last year at 32YO, not liking the deal is one thing but no need to add 3 years to the guys age to add to your position.

You quoted Slava talking about Deng.

Dum, da dumb dumb!