Jusuf Nurkic Trade offers

[patman52]

The problem with this deal is that most of the teams that would want to trade for Nurkic would be looking for a consolidation trade, and Denver is so deep that that would be a hard sell for them.

I disagree. Nurkic is a nice young center, but he's hardly a guy at this point that you pool your assets for thinking he's a final piece. You could trade a young player at a different position for him or potentially a nice pick.

Now I still believe strongly that Denver should package him with Gallo to Boston for a package including either Brown or a Brooklyn pick as that addresses 2 major Celtic needs while leaving them with plenty of assets should a star become available and the Nuggets get another potential cornerstone piece.

Strongly disagree. We have no need for a guy like Gallinari and I prefer Brown/Crowder duo over him. Gallinari is not helping us to ever beat Cleveland. Brown may be that guy and has much higher ceilling than Gallo. Losing a BKN pick, that could be pure gold for Denver too, as there is quite high chance that pick could be another top talent like Brown. Not a chance Ainge considers this. Nurkic is a nice piece, but we are not giving a BKN pick for him. Would be a young player like Rozier + 1/2 non-BKN picks.

I don't want to take a chance that this is the year that he plays 70 games. Making this trade with Brown is like "forcing it" Gallo is similar to Monroe all the down side and no upside. He plays 30 games again and he opts in, he plays 70 he opts out and your giving an oft injured player close to 20 mill long term. You don't give up Brown or the '18 bkn pick which would really be a kick in the rear, if he leaves and your giving the '18 pick for a guy who is not on your team.

[Sportfan73]

Klay, Mcgee, and west philly
Noel, Nurkic, Covington, Harris to golden state
Lakers first, kings 2019 first, McCaw, and Holmes to Denver.

Clear overpay by the Sixers, but I think Colangelo would do it. Denver moves 2 guys for high picks but also gets 2 prospects who play the same positions in return. GS gets 3 guys on cheap deals and one that they can sign over the cap after they bring back KD.

[lakerhater]

Klay, Mcgee, and west philly
Noel, Nurkic, Covington, Harris to golden state
Lakers first, kings 2019 first, McCaw, and Holmes to Denver.

Clear overpay by the Sixers, but I think Colangelo would do it. Denver moves 2 guys for high picks but also gets 2 prospects who play the same positions in return. GS gets 3 guys on cheap deals and one that they can sign over the cap after they bring back KD.

W's don't need both Nurkic and Noel and since Nurkic is on the cheap contract that's who they'd want. Zaza is fine as a 15 mpg backup with Green doing his 5-8 mpg at center. Looney looks like he can play some small ball center too, he's played important minutes already and has shown he knows how to catch and finish near the basket and rebound. Damian Jones will be healthy soon too.

W's and Denver would cut out Philly and try to find some common ground on Nurkic to the W's with or without Klay.

If GSW goes after Noel don't count on them offering Klay because of the injury/overpay issues involved.

[patman52]

Klay, McGee, and west philly
Noel, Nurkic, Covington, Harris to golden state
Lakers first, kings 2019 first, McCaw, and Holmes to Denver.

Clear overpay by the Sixers, but I think Colangelo would do it. Denver moves 2 guys for high picks but also gets 2 prospects who play the same positions in return. GS gets 3 guys on cheap deals and one that they can sign over the cap after they bring back KD.

Why does golden state go for two centers? If they are going to trade Klay they are going to want a star back not pieces.

And Philly does pay thru the nose for Klay. Holmes is a great fit for Denver too. What about just a simple Holmes for McCaw?

I think if GS wants Noel they can get him cheaper than as a package including Klay

[lakerhater]

Klay, McGee, and west philly
Noel, Nurkic, Covington, Harris to golden state
Lakers first, kings 2019 first, McCaw, and Holmes to Denver.

Clear overpay by the Sixers, but I think Colangelo would do it. Denver moves 2 guys for high picks but also gets 2 prospects who play the same positions in return. GS gets 3 guys on cheap deals and one that they can sign over the cap after they bring back KD.

Why does golden state go for two centers? If they are going to trade Klay they are going to want a star back not pieces.

And Philly does pay thru the nose for Klay. Holmes is a great fit for Denver too. What about just a simple Holmes for McCaw?

I think if GS wants Noel they can get him cheaper than as a package including Klay

That's much more realistic. W's wouldn't want Noel until he's closer to returning. McCaw for Holmes does make sense.

[Sportfan73]

Klay, McGee, and west philly
Noel, Nurkic, Covington, Harris to golden state
Lakers first, kings 2019 first, McCaw, and Holmes to Denver.

Clear overpay by the Sixers, but I think Colangelo would do it. Denver moves 2 guys for high picks but also gets 2 prospects who play the same positions in return. GS gets 3 guys on cheap deals and one that they can sign over the cap after they bring back KD.

Why does golden state go for two centers? If they are going to trade Klay they are going to want a star back not pieces.

And Philly does pay thru the nose for Klay. Holmes is a great fit for Denver too. What about just a simple Holmes for McCaw?

I think if GS wants Noel they can get him cheaper than as a package including Klay

Because it's two guys they have control over long term. They don't need a star back they fill out their team with enough cheap high potential guys that they can afford to resign KD then go over the cap for noel, curry, and Iggy. If they want to be contenders for a long time they will need to be in the tax. And having an elite 2 big rotation would do them WONDERS

[patman52]

Klay, McGee, and west philly
Noel, Nurkic, Covington, Harris to golden state
Lakers first, kings 2019 first, McCaw, and Holmes to Denver.

Clear overpay by the Sixers, but I think Colangelo would do it. Denver moves 2 guys for high picks but also gets 2 prospects who play the same positions in return. GS gets 3 guys on cheap deals and one that they can sign over the cap after they bring back KD.

Why does golden state go for two centers? If they are going to trade Klay they are going to want a star back not pieces.

And Philly does pay thru the nose for Klay. Holmes is a great fit for Denver too. What about just a simple Holmes for McCaw?

I think if GS wants Noel they can get him cheaper than as a package including Klay

Because it's two guys they have control over long term. They don't need a star back they fill out their team with enough cheap high potential guys that they can afford to resign KD then go over the cap for noel, curry, and Iggy. If they want to be contenders for a long time they will need to be in the tax. And having an elite 2 big rotation would do them WONDERS

More wonders than just having one of them and keeping klay? Denver to me is just sucking Value out of this.
Noel, Holmes, Covington and the two firsts for klay + McGaw + Damian Jones seems to be a lot better for GS

[DaFan334]

Unless the Nuggets are bringing in a star by consolidating assets, I think moving Nurkic is a very dumb idea at this point. His value is only going up, hes been pretty much our best player so far this year. I'm still not considering the Jokic and Nurkic lineup bad, as it has looked great at times. I think Malone needs to get a better hold of his rotations, probably having one of those 2 on the floor at all times instead of Faried playing center.

[patman52]

Unless the Nuggets are bringing in a star by consolidating assets, I think moving Nurkic is a very dumb idea at this point. His value is only going up, hes been pretty much our best player so far this year. I'm still not considering the Jokic and Nurkic lineup bad, as it has looked great at times. I think Malone needs to get a better hold of his rotations, probably having one of those 2 on the floor at all times instead of Faried playing center.

Well I disagree that his value can only go up. He missed 40 games last year, if he does not get starter min why do you see his value slanting upwards?

Denver certainly does not have to trade him and they should only move him with an eye to making the pieces fit better. IMO Denver will be better off with Jokic at center and Faried at foward. I don't think Jokic and Nurkic compliment each other. I think they are better off getting a center that is a better compliment. Idealy somebody like Favors on the high side and sullinger on the other side. A PF/C who can play 15 min at the 5 and 15 at the 4. of get a stretch 5 like Olynk (low side, just an example) The Nuggets are not going to keep both long term, so if a good deal comes along they could help them selves by taking it. I don't see why you think he will only go in a trade for a star, Yes that is best case, but if you can get a player that is better suited for the scheme and you know you are not going to give him 20 mill in 18 months. Make the trade.

[patman52]

Unless the Nuggets are bringing in a star by consolidating assets, I think moving Nurkic is a very dumb idea at this point. His value is only going up, hes been pretty much our best player so far this year. I'm still not considering the Jokic and Nurkic lineup bad, as it has looked great at times. I think Malone needs to get a better hold of his rotations, probably having one of those 2 on the floor at all times instead of Faried playing center.

Well I disagree that his value can only go up. He missed 40 games last year, if he does not get starter min why do you see his value slanting upwards?

Denver certainly does not have to trade him and they should only move him with an eye to making the pieces fit better. IMO Denver will be better off with Jokic at center and Faried at foward. I don't think Jokic and Nurkic compliment each other. I think they are better off getting a center that is a better compliment. Idealy somebody like Favors on the high side and sullinger on the other side. A PF/C who can play 15 min at the 5 and 15 at the 4. of get a stretch 5 like Olynk (low side, just an example) The Nuggets are not going to keep both long term, so if a good deal comes along they could help them selves by taking it. I don't see why you think he will only go in a trade for a star, Yes that is best case, but if you can get a player that is better suited for the scheme and you know you are not going to give him 20 mill in 18 months. Make the trade.

[The Rebel]

Unless there is a true all star type of player coming back than I do not see the Nuggets trading Nurkic this year, I think you would have a better chance of getting Jokic.

[jbk1234]

Don't have much but Henson/1st (top 5 protect?) for Nurkic/Nelson.

I like this.

[Ror1997]

I would do Lopez for Nurkic, or Lopez and Bogs for Nurkic and Chandler.

[sipclip]

Boston trades: Terry Rozier, James Young or Jordan Mickey, 2019 MEM 1st, 2018 BOS 1st (lotto protected), 2017 MIN 2nd
Denver trades: Jusuf Nurkic, Gary Harris

Celtics solve their 2 problems - gets a big man and a shooting guard
Denver gets 2 1st round picks, a second and a talented PG plus a free look on another young player

Good lord that is horrible for the nugs. You are valuing Harris as a throw in which he certainly isn't. The 2 best players in the deal are going to Boston and those picks certainly don't make up for it.

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[Coxy]

What about Klay Thompson for Nurkic, WIll Barton and a pick of some sort? Could work for both teams.

[blazeyo]

Nurkic is a beast and only improving so far. He looks bette than Jokic so far this year.
Denver can not play both of htem in the starting lineup, eventually they will have to trade one of them but I have no idea who that might be.

[patman52]

Boston trades: Terry Rozier, James Young or Jordan Mickey, 2019 MEM 1st, 2018 BOS 1st (lotto protected), 2017 MIN 2nd
Denver trades: Jusuf Nurkic, Gary Harris

Celtics solve their 2 problems - gets a big man and a shooting guard
Denver gets 2 1st round picks, a second and a talented PG plus a free look on another young player

Good lord that is horrible for the nugs. You are valuing Harris as a throw in which he certainly isn't. The 2 best players in the deal are going to Boston and those picks certainly don't make up for it.

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yeah, re reading it it does seem bad.

Rozier is a nice piece, but Denver is loaded with young PGs alrready
Mickey or young are just throw in, Mickey has some value but young has none
The 45th pick in this years draft is squat
2018 boston 1st especially after adding these two would be late 20s

This is a redundant rozier and a late 1st for Nurkic

Harris value is about the Memphis pick.

Now I added Amir Johnson and switched the Boston Pick to Zizic, that is closer but I think another team would beat that too.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Nurkic is better than Jokic now? Fickle trade board is fickle.

[r0drig0lac]

I would love for Ainge to facilitate a trade and Nurkic comes to the Celts and Noel goes to the Nuggets.

Noel to nuggets
Nurkic to celts
Rozier and '18 Boston 1st rd pick to Philly, this can't happen till Christmas when Noel proves he can play.

This can't happen since it is a poor offer for Noel.

lmao this...Rozier and 18'...Ainge is you?

[The-Power]

McCaw for Holmes does make sense.

It actually doesn't given our current roster construction.