TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- Winner bwgood77

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Which entry is the best entry

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19
43%
2
3
7%
3
6
14%
4
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9%
5
0
No votes
6
1
2%
7
2
5%
8
3
7%
9
6
14%
 
Total votes: 44

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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- 9 Entries pick your favorite! 

Post#21 » by Mamba4Goat » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:17 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:cmon guys we can't have more Kyrie threads per hour than votes in a contest where 9 people took the time to make an entry and HW took the guy to put this together. Even if you don't want to post your thoughts in the thread and comment on each deal which admittedly requires some real effort, at least take the time to read them and vote on a winner. Remember there is a real prize for the winning entry. Hartford Whalers has to rock a Coleangelo avatar perhaps or Mamba4Goat has a signature suggesting Pau Gasol was the best player on those b2b championship teams.


That one would hurt. :lol: I hated Pau.

But yeah, it's a fun contest, let's see more participation guys!
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- 9 Entries pick your favorite! 

Post#22 » by sportscrazy » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:06 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:cmon guys we can't have more Kyrie threads per hour than votes in a contest where 9 people took the time to make an entry and HW took the guy to put this together. Even if you don't want to post your thoughts in the thread and comment on each deal which admittedly requires some real effort, at least take the time to read them and vote on a winner. Remember there is a real prize for the winning entry. Hartford Whalers has to rock a Coleangelo avatar perhaps or Mamba4Goat has a signature suggesting Pau Gasol was the best player on those b2b championship teams.


That one would hurt. :lol: I hated Pau.

But yeah, it's a fun contest, let's see more participation guys!


The winner could choose acceptable sigs for participating mods? I could make Mamba have a "Larry Bird is the best player from his era with no close second" sig or Texas Chuck have a DeAndre Jordan avatar or an OKC fan have a sig saying "Durant > Curry > Westbrook"?
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- 9 Entries pick your favorite! 

Post#23 » by Mamba4Goat » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:21 pm

sportscrazy wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:cmon guys we can't have more Kyrie threads per hour than votes in a contest where 9 people took the time to make an entry and HW took the guy to put this together. Even if you don't want to post your thoughts in the thread and comment on each deal which admittedly requires some real effort, at least take the time to read them and vote on a winner. Remember there is a real prize for the winning entry. Hartford Whalers has to rock a Coleangelo avatar perhaps or Mamba4Goat has a signature suggesting Pau Gasol was the best player on those b2b championship teams.


That one would hurt. :lol: I hated Pau.

But yeah, it's a fun contest, let's see more participation guys!


The winner could choose acceptable sigs for participating mods? I could make Mamba have a "Larry Bird is the best player from his era with no close second" sig or Texas Chuck have a DeAndre Jordan avatar or an OKC fan have a sig saying "Durant > Curry > Westbrook"?


Andre is an OKC fan... :wink: we can have fun and be creative, torture mods, etc.
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- 9 Entries pick your favorite! 

Post#24 » by jredsaz » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:47 pm

For simplicity and realism in comp to the rest I'll take trade #3.

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Re: TnT board weekly trade challenge -- Week 1 featuring the Phoenix Suns 

Post#25 » by Moochthemonkey » Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:41 am

1.) A-. I'm a little hesitant on resigning Len, but that contract is great value and quite tradeable, and he's potentially off the books in two years when the Suns will be ready to make a push for FA (Bledsoe, Chandler, and Dudley will free up much cap-space then as well) as well as offering a probable max contract to Booker.

2.) B-. This is quite a hairy trade! Don't see much need for Aldrich and his remaining 2 years when we have Chandler (Asik), Williams, Okafor, and potentially Len. Also I would like to retain Dudley for sentimental reasons as a Suns fan. But another two first round draft are always a nice asset to have, even if there is already plenty of current and incoming young talent on this Suns team. And of course Asik for Knight is a good financial bonus, and that's decent return value for Bledsoe.

3.) B-. Delledova's the type of player you'd love to have, but hate to play against. And Jabari's a great project, especially with the Suns training staff. Probably would rate this deal higher if the Suns didn't have both Chriss and Bender to develop at the PF position though.

4.) C-. Some decent incoming talent, but I value Warren individually more than any of them.

5.) D. lol, no point in a rebuilding Suns team trading Bender and two firsts for Kevin Love, even if he reverts to Minnesota form. This is the kind of deal you would make only if you know an incoming top 5 player is coming to your team and you need to clear Knight off the salary to make the signing possible. (maybe a C- if both of the picks are lottery protected)

6.) D. Atleast it's not as bad as professionals suggesting Booker for Irving...but still, this is exactly the type of trade that suns need to avoid. Suns have all the leverage here; they don't lose if they decide to go full rebuild, but this is that type of trade that can be disastrous if Kyrie doesn't fit and/or doesn't resign. I don't the addition of Turner, Shumpert, Vonleh as fair compensation. Outside of Bledsoe, the Suns should at worst should only give up ONE of Warren/Bender/Chris/Ulis, a protected 1st, and filler players for Irving.

With that said, I don't think this is a good deal for the Cavs either atm, if their best interest is competing for a title right now. Bledsoe's knees could once again give out, and the young players may not live up to their hype. The Cavs best bet is trying to reconcile their relationship with Irving; even if he's unhappy there during the season I don't see that affecting their path to a fourth consecutive trip to the finals that much.

7.) B-. May never amount to anything, but not too bad of a trade. Suns dump three players that aren't really part of the timeline all for 3 potential firsts, which can be used down the line to trade up high in the draft or for a disgruntled star.

8.) C-. This is basically the same trade as above, but with less two 1sts and roughly equal trade value in incoming players.

9.) C-. I wouldn't call those assets top tier: a 1st likely in the 10-15 range and Portis is nice, but Jackson has less value than Bledsoe. Tyson Chandler for a 1st is good too, although Leonard's contract somewhat negates that. The NO trade by itself is negative value as Dudley for Hill is a lateral move (Solomon's contract is 1 year longer AND he's not a favorite like Bledsoe) and IMO Warren is likely to be better than the incoming 1st that is probable to be in the 15-20 range.
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- 9 Entries pick your favorite! 

Post#26 » by Texas Chuck » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:55 am

Texas Chuck wrote: at least take the time to read them and vote on a winner.


This board is awesome. Thanks for listening to the plea and nearly doubling the amount of votes cast. It looks now like we have a clear winner, but not too late to weigh in with anyone else who still wants to vote.

Otherwise its time to pick my prize.

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Kidding I am not the winner nor was I even close. Eager to find out who was behind the winner and wouldn't mind a couple other guys stepping forward and identifying themselves for their clever ideas.
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- 9 Entries pick your favorite! 

Post#27 » by Kerrsed » Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:45 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote: at least take the time to read them and vote on a winner.


This board is awesome. Thanks for listening to the plea and nearly doubling the amount of votes cast. It looks now like we have a clear winner, but not too late to weigh in with anyone else who still wants to vote.

Otherwise its time to pick my prize.

Spoiler:
Kidding I am not the winner nor was I even close. Eager to find out who was behind the winner and wouldn't mind a couple other guys stepping forward and identifying themselves for their clever ideas.


I also made a second plea to our board for everyone to come vote. I like the whole idea of this, spices up the trade board a bit, and i can see this turning into something big (As long as people keep voting!).
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- 9 Entries pick your favorite! 

Post#28 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:54 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:#1 feels pretty good for the Cavs and Suns:
Cavs -> Irving for Bledsoe Melo and a pick is a deal they should take
Suns -> Bledsoe for Frank is a deal they should take

But then I get to Knicks:
Frank, top 8 protected pick, Melo for Irving, Shump Frye. I don't mind that so much on value as I look at it and think:
1) Knicks will stink next year and then Kyrie will be an expiring about to walk
2) Melo will say no.

If you could talk to agents and get everyone comfortable and feel optimistic about Kyrie staying despite a roster that will be:
Kyrie/THjr/Porzingis nothing and no cap room or draft pick; and Melo cool with a year in Cleveland, then I like it a lot.

It is a little familiar and a step one of 4, but taking the right step with Bledsoe is the most important step soI don't mind step 1 of 4.
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#9 -- The protection on the picks kill me, and the last one should be sweetened for NOP (make it Asik and QPon instead of Hill). But I love trade 1, and like trade 2 a lot (protections need to be higher on both). Something about #9 really made me strongly feel like it was my favorite even if not the best one.

So, the final 5 for me in no order were: #1/#3/#4/#8/#9, with each having some aspects that made it in the running. Going to do a second post when this next needs a bump and cast my final vote at that time.


Okay, I didn't need to bump it so didn't. But for those curious, I went with #9. I disliked all three trades protections (some more vehemently than others), but it felt comprehensive and like it took a broad approach to the the team, and where players might be moved best to.

I think Phx needs to both be moving Bledsoe asap (if its not already too late to get full value), and also looking at some of these sort of salary dump style deals to accelerate their rebuild.

(I do think my favorite wrinkle in all of this was signing Grant Hill for the front office. I really loved that idea)
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- Winner bwgood77 

Post#29 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:58 am

So, the voting has run the full 3 days, and I am pleased to crown bwgood77 the week 1 winner of the TnT trade board challenge.

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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- Winner bwgood77 

Post#30 » by Kerrsed » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:35 am

Congrats bwgood77!



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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- Winner bwgood77 

Post#31 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:45 pm

Nice work bw!
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- Winner bwgood77 

Post#32 » by loserX » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:50 pm

Congrats to bwgood, and well done to all contestants!!
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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- Winner bwgood77 

Post#33 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Aug 1, 2017 3:36 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:So, the voting has run the full 3 days, and I am pleased to crown bwgood77 the week 1 winner of the TnT trade board challenge.

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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- Winner bwgood77 

Post#34 » by Mamba4Goat » Tue Aug 1, 2017 4:50 am

Andre Roberstan wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:So, the voting has run the full 3 days, and I am pleased to crown bwgood77 the week 1 winner of the TnT trade board challenge.

Please contact the appropriate trade board mod with your weeks' avatar/sig/team logo request!


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Re: TnT board Week 1 Trade Challenge (Phx) -- Winner bwgood77 

Post#35 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Aug 1, 2017 5:26 am

Andre Roberstan wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:So, the voting has run the full 3 days, and I am pleased to crown bwgood77 the week 1 winner of the TnT trade board challenge.

Please contact the appropriate trade board mod with your weeks' avatar/sig/team logo request!


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remind me to give really positive feedback to every entry in the next round. what you traded AD for Ryan Anderson and a lotto protected 1st? Brilliant sir. Note: nobody better steal my AD for Anderson trade.
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