Best Post-Draft Trade For Kevin Love

[NYG]

Is doing another deal with Boston a bad look?

I wouldn't really care about how it looked, I'd care about rebuilding pieces. I imagine the Celtics would want to send Horford out and they'd probably have to find a third team for him. A team entering a rebuild wouldn't value him at all. Frankly, there's a good chance you'd be trading for a locker room problem.

How would Horford/Love work together if they kept Horford?

[jbk1234]

Is doing another deal with Boston a bad look?

I wouldn't really care about how it looked, I'd care about rebuilding pieces. I imagine the Celtics would want to send Horford out and they'd probably have to find a third team for him. A team entering a rebuild wouldn't value him at all. Frankly, there's a good chance you'd be trading for a locker room problem.

How would Horford/Love work together if they kept Horford?

Given their cap situation it would have to be Horford or Hayward and I can't see them trading Hayward for him.

[Mystical Apples]

Horford has been Boston's best player 2 years running. I can't imagine they'd entertain swapping him for Love.

[NYG]

I wouldn't really care about how it looked, I'd care about rebuilding pieces. I imagine the Celtics would want to send Horford out and they'd probably have to find a third team for him. A team entering a rebuild wouldn't value him at all. Frankly, there's a good chance you'd be trading for a locker room problem.

How would Horford/Love work together if they kept Horford?

Given their cap situation it would have to be Horford or Hayward and I can't see them trading Hayward for him.

Using the concept from my Kawhi thread...

Marcus Smart (signed and traded to 3 yr/$36.5 Mil) to Indiana
Kevin Love to Boston
Guerschon Yabusele, 2019 Grizzlies First Round Pick and 2019 Knicks Second Round Pick to Cleveland
Marcus Morris to Brooklyn

[jbk1234]

How would Horford/Love work together if they kept Horford?

Given their cap situation it would have to be Horford or Hayward and I can't see them trading Hayward for him.

Using the concept from my Kawhi thread...

Marcus Smart (signed and traded to 3 yr/$36.5 Mil) to Indiana
Kevin Love to Boston
Guerschon Yabusele, 2019 Grizzlies First Round Pick and 2019 Knicks Second Round Pick to Cleveland
Marcus Morris to Brooklyn

Yeah, that's pretty bad for the Cavs. I'd rather just keep Love.

[dorkestra]

Love to Portland for McCollum

[NYG]

Given their cap situation it would have to be Horford or Hayward and I can't see them trading Hayward for him.

Using the concept from my Kawhi thread...

Marcus Smart (signed and traded to 3 yr/$36.5 Mil) to Indiana
Kevin Love to Boston
Guerschon Yabusele, 2019 Grizzlies First Round Pick and 2019 Knicks Second Round Pick to Cleveland
Marcus Morris to Brooklyn

Yeah, that's pretty bad for the Cavs. I'd rather just keep Love.

Would adding the Kings first to the same deal be better?

[jbk1234]

Using the concept from my Kawhi thread...

Marcus Smart (signed and traded to 3 yr/$36.5 Mil) to Indiana
Kevin Love to Boston
Guerschon Yabusele, 2019 Grizzlies First Round Pick and 2019 Knicks Second Round Pick to Cleveland
Marcus Morris to Brooklyn

Yeah, that's pretty bad for the Cavs. I'd rather just keep Love.

Would adding the Kings first to the same deal be better?

Sure.

[NYG]

Yeah, that's pretty bad for the Cavs. I'd rather just keep Love.

Would adding the Kings first to the same deal be better?

Sure.

In context of trading Love post-draft, wouldn't the Kings pick, Grizzlies pick, Yabusele and cap flexibility be about as good as you could hope for? That has potential to be more than what Kyrie got if that Kings pick is top 5, but not first.

[dorkestra]

Would adding the Kings first to the same deal be better?

Sure.

In context of trading Love post-draft, wouldn't the Kings pick, Grizzlies pick, Yabusele and cap flexibility be about as good as you could hope for? That has potential to be more than what Kyrie got if that Kings pick is top 5, but not first.

Like I said before every other team in the NBA would and could offer more than that for Kevin Love.

[BoogieTime]

Which prospects would you need to trade Love?

I'd take back the best prospect pick I could get at that point. Obviously the contract coming back would matter as well.

Malik Monk or Zach Collins do anything for you?

Either would be good IMO. I find Love to be overrated on the trade board, IMO. He’ll be 30, with one guaranteed year left.

[jbk1234]

I'd take back the best prospect pick I could get at that point. Obviously the contract coming back would matter as well.

Malik Monk or Zach Collins do anything for you?

Either would be good IMO. I find Love to be overrated on the trade board, IMO. He’ll be 30, with one guaranteed year left.

Without getting into Love's trade value, we already have Nance and Zizic so I have no interest in trading for a meh big man. Monk may eventually become what he was projected to be but it's no exaggeration to say he showed nothing his rookie year. The Blazers have no large expiring contracts and the Hornets only have Howard.

Holding onto Love for another year and realizing the cap savings in 2019 isn't a bad option for the Cavs if the offers underwhelm.

[Jkam31]

WCS/Skal/Jackson

And we take back TT contract

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[R-DAWG]

Malik Monk or Zach Collins do anything for you?

Either would be good IMO. I find Love to be overrated on the trade board, IMO. He’ll be 30, with one guaranteed year left.

Without getting into Love's trade value, we already have Nance and Zizic so I have no interest in trading for a meh big man. Monk may eventually become what he was projected to be but it's no exaggeration to say he showed nothing his rookie year. The Blazers have no large expiring contracts and the Hornets only have Howard.

Holding onto Love for another year and realizing the cap savings in 2019 isn't a bad option for the Cavs if the offers underwhelm.

I think the concept of a deal with Charlotte makes a lot of sense. I think Love would elevate them into the playoffs and give Kemba a reason to stay. There are many ways to work a deal, either using Dwight's expiring or Cody Zeller and Jeremy Lamb's expiring (if CLE values Zeller). The value of the 11th pick for Love seems fair.

[NYG]

Malik Monk or Zach Collins do anything for you?

Either would be good IMO. I find Love to be overrated on the trade board, IMO. He’ll be 30, with one guaranteed year left.

Without getting into Love's trade value, we already have Nance and Zizic so I have no interest in trading for a meh big man. Monk may eventually become what he was projected to be but it's no exaggeration to say he showed nothing his rookie year. The Blazers have no large expiring contracts and the Hornets only have Howard.

Holding onto Love for another year and realizing the cap savings in 2019 isn't a bad option for the Cavs if the offers underwhelm.

I think the Cavs would take their chances on a Yabusele, ‘19 Kings pick, ‘19 Grizzlies pick and ‘19 Knicks 2nd even with the conditions on the 1sts.

[Daddy 801]

Utah could offer any of Thabo, Udoh, and Jerebko. They are team options that could be released if the Cavs wanted cap space. A possible sign and trade of Favs(doubtful). And we have something like the 21st pick in this years draft. So not a ton really and I’m sure Clev can find a better offer. But I want to see Love teamed up with Rubio again.


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[Stillwater]

If the worst thing were to happen which it won't 9 out of 10 that the Cavs get bounced in the first round & as a result Lebron publicly declares he's gone which is highly unlikely even if that did happen and even more laughable; I could see the Org being willing to take on Chandler Parsons and Ivan Rabb sending Love and Osman to Memphis provided they are willing to sacrifice the #1-#3 pick this year and a future 2nd. They would NOT get the Cavs first via Brooklyn in that scenario either as bad as Parsons C is. but they would get a good all-star and a fine young euro but most importantly get out from under Parsons terrible contract given his injuries. I think the Cavs would do this to kick start a rebuild and would be willing to pay the repeater another year until more contracts fell off the books given the value of the 1-3 pick.
Obviously Memphis would only do this if they feel they can win with a Conley,Love,Gasol line up with the complimentary pieces they have around them I wouldn't think it is unreasonable.
Cav's would probably have to trade the Nets pick to dump Thompson maybe to LAC if they don't want to pay DJ as much as they want a better pick in a swap for 1 of their late lottery picks.

[NYG]

If the worst thing were to happen which it won't 9 out of 10 that the Cavs get bounced in the first round & as a result Lebron publicly declares he's gone which is highly unlikely even if that did happen and even more laughable; I could see the Org being willing to take on Chandler Parsons and Ivan Rabb sending Love and Osman to Memphis provided they are willing to sacrifice the #1-#3 pick this year and a future 2nd. They would NOT get the Cavs first via Brooklyn in that scenario either as bad as Parsons C is. but they would get a good all-star and a fine young euro but most importantly get out from under Parsons terrible contract given his injuries. I think the Cavs would do this to kick start a rebuild and would be willing to pay the repeater another year until more contracts fell off the books given the value of the 1-3 pick.
Obviously Memphis would only do this if they feel they can win with a Conley,Love,Gasol line up with the complimentary pieces they have around them I wouldn't think it is unreasonable.
Cav's would probably have to trade the Nets pick to dump Thompson maybe to LAC if they don't want to pay DJ as much as they want a better pick in a swap for 1 of their late lottery picks.

What if it plays out after draft night?

[NYG]

I'd trade 11 + Howard for Love before I traded Monk + Howard

Dwight and ‘19 Hornets Lotto Protected 1st for Jabari Parker (sign and trade)

Brogdon, Delly, Snell and ‘19 Hornets 1st for Love

??

[Djh7475]

Either would be good IMO. I find Love to be overrated on the trade board, IMO. He’ll be 30, with one guaranteed year left.

Without getting into Love's trade value, we already have Nance and Zizic so I have no interest in trading for a meh big man. Monk may eventually become what he was projected to be but it's no exaggeration to say he showed nothing his rookie year. The Blazers have no large expiring contracts and the Hornets only have Howard.

Holding onto Love for another year and realizing the cap savings in 2019 isn't a bad option for the Cavs if the offers underwhelm.

I think the Cavs would take their chances on a Yabusele, ‘19 Kings pick, ‘19 Grizzlies pick and ‘19 Knicks 2nd even with the conditions on the 1sts.

But the Celtics wouldn’t come close to offering that. I’m not sure if I’m in the minority, but I don’t see Love having any value to the Celtics. Simply matching the money required to get him requires the Celtics giving up more than he’s worth. He doesn’t fit the switch-everything defensive system the Celtics run, and if he’s the 3rd option behind Kyrie/Hayward, I’m not putting Tatum and his shooting/defensive versatility on the bench. Regardless, the Kings pick holds more value than a 30 year old Love on an expiring contract.

Cavs fans that don’t think the Celtics offer is enough for Love are going to be wildly disappointed. A bad contract and a mid-to-late lottery pick is more than fair for a 30 year old expiring one-way player. The Celtics don’t have a bad contract to attach to any package, and Love would put us in cap/tax hell unless we included Hayward or Horford (which I wouldn’t even remotely consider even if it were straight up).

Resigning him and Kyrie next offseason would make the Celtics tax bill outrageous, and I’ve got no desire to resign a 30 year old Love to come off the bench regardless of tax concerns. Tatum’s defensive ability/versatility when we go small with Horford at the 5 is a major reason we were the best defense in the NBA this year. His elite shooting ability would make him the clear favorite to start next to Kyrie, Jaylen, Hayward, and Horford over Love, so giving up 2 high draft picks with 8 years of team control and 4 cheap seasons left for a legit bench scorer is simply unrealistic.