Please MJ, let us rebuild - Kemba Trades (Dallas and Lakers)

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Re: Please MJ, let us rebuild - Kemba Trades (Dallas and Lakers) 

Post#21 » by Texas Chuck » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:33 pm

pelifan wrote: For me that Dallas package is positive but close to neutral value.


My issue isn't value so much. It's that Batum would prevent Dallas from putting enough around Luka/Jrue to make it worthwhile.
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Re: Please MJ, let us rebuild - Kemba Trades (Dallas and Lakers) 

Post#22 » by scoobs07 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:59 pm

Diop wrote:trading for Lakers pieces is my favourite option for Charlotte.
The two teams would be good trade partners. I'm sure something could be worked out.
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Re: Please MJ, let us rebuild - Kemba Trades (Dallas and Lakers) 

Post#23 » by Alienware » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:40 pm

I like Kemba and as a Laker I would do that trade, but only if we strike out on AD.
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Re: Please MJ, let us rebuild - Kemba Trades (Dallas and Lakers) 

Post#24 » by pad300 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:36 pm

Diop wrote:I won't hold my breath that this will happen. MJ won't want to admit defeat with this crappy team, but if we do.

Kemba, Batum for Barnes, Smith Jr, and 1 mill throw in contract.

Dallas go for the playoffs this year, Kemba plays best next to a play making forward (hence why we got Batum in the first place) and I think trading for him would definitely increase their chance of keeping him.

Charlotte gives Smith Jr the reigns to play alongside Monk, Bridges and Graham.
If Batum is just to hard to swallow then Kemba for Smith Jr and Powell.

Lakers are going to constantly have pressure to win and Kemba could play the Irving roll well next to Lebron.
I don't want to do the obvious Ball offers, Lakers want to keep him and he is big enough to play alongside Kemba who excels as a scoring guard.

Kemba for Ingram and Hart.

Charlotte see what they can do with Graham, Monk, Hart, Bridges and Ingram. Would like to grab Zubac as well if we could.

Kemba, Rondo
Ball, Caldwell-Pope
Lebron, Lance
Kuzma, Beasley
Chandler/Mcgee

Dallas and Lakers fans, how much do you hate these trades for our "over rated, expiring all-star point guard?


SAS want in on this discussion. I see several possibilities.

1) Kemba + Batum or Biyombo for Pau, Patty (he needs to be in here to make the money work), Cunningham + Sweetner (one of either Dejounte Murray, Lonnie Walker, the SAS 2019 FRP, the TOR 2019 FRP, or maybe nothing at all if it's Batum)

2) Kemba for Patty + TOR 2019 FRP + one of either Dejounte Murray, Lonnie Walker, or the SAS 2019 FRP

3) Kemba + one of either Gilchrist, Marvin Williams or Zeller for Pau, Cunningham, Pondexter + maybe a sweetner (depending if they got Gilchrist vs WIlliam or Zeller).

4) Kemba + Biyombo +2019 CHA FRP for Pau, Cunningham, Pondexter, Dejounte Murray, Lonnie Walker


All of these, of course, also SAS to start a potential lineup:

Kemba, White, Derozan, Bertans/Gay, Aldridge

Which to my mind, makes them a contender this season. Depending on which version, resigning Kemba next year may be a salary cap challenge, or maybe not...
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Re: Please MJ, let us rebuild - Kemba Trades (Dallas and Lakers) 

Post#25 » by basketballwacko2 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:32 am

OrlandoDream wrote:Kemba and Luka will not fit together. DAL is listening to offers for DSJr because they dont want another ball dominant PG next to Luka. Kemba is just that. Kemba would be a better fit in Philly. Heck, he would draw immediate interest from Orlando. However unless he commits to resign where he is traded, not many teams are going to pay kings ransom for 4 months of Kemba. Better just wait until the offseason.

This is all moot though. MJ will not trade Kemba and wants to resign him at all cost. He wont admit defeat.....its MJ



Kemba wants to go to the playoffs and win. That is not happening in Orlando, who could surely use him, and I don't see that happening in Charlotte either. The Hornets are financially crippled they can't improve their team due to the bad contracts they hold, Biyombo, Williams, and Batum and to a lesser extent Zeller and MKG.
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Re: Please MJ, let us rebuild - Kemba Trades (Dallas and Lakers) 

Post#26 » by Pointguard01 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:36 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
pelifan wrote: For me that Dallas package is positive but close to neutral value.


My issue isn't value so much. It's that Batum would prevent Dallas from putting enough around Luka/Jrue to make it worthwhile.


Jrue is maybe the ideally guard to put next to Luka. He's a top defender, wants to play off the ball, but can guard both guard positions; he can shoot while also being a really good secondary playmaker. The issue with him is that he is 28-years old (going on 29 in a few months I think), and as good as Luka is, I don't think we are in position to be an "all-in team". I'd pass on adding him unless Dallas had the ability to add another player after that. And we simply dont have the assets for that.

Same rule applies to Kemba, though he isn't as good of a fit.
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Re: Please MJ, let us rebuild - Kemba Trades (Dallas and Lakers) 

Post#27 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:25 pm

Pointguard01 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
pelifan wrote: For me that Dallas package is positive but close to neutral value.


My issue isn't value so much. It's that Batum would prevent Dallas from putting enough around Luka/Jrue to make it worthwhile.


Jrue is maybe the ideally guard to put next to Luka. He's a top defender, wants to play off the ball, but can guard both guard positions; he can shoot while also being a really good secondary playmaker. The issue with him is that he is 28-years old (going on 29 in a few months I think), and as good as Luka is, I don't think we are in position to be an "all-in team". I'd pass on adding him unless Dallas had the ability to add another player after that. And we simply dont have the assets for that.

Same rule applies to Kemba, though he isn't as good of a fit.


I'm not that worried about the age thing. If Luka is what we hope he is, then let's take advantage of his cheap salary on this rookie deal and put some quality players around him now. As long as they figure to still be quality players over the life of the contract I'm cool with it.
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