Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon

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Who has the highest trade value?

Poll ended at Sat Nov 9, 2019 6:02 am

Kyle Kuzma
10
20%
Julius Randle
3
6%
Kevin Love
7
14%
Aaron Gordon
30
60%
 
Total votes: 50

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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#21 » by Mamba4Goat » Thu Nov 7, 2019 9:33 pm

Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#22 » by jbk1234 » Thu Nov 7, 2019 10:04 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st


The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#23 » by Revenged25 » Fri Nov 8, 2019 1:30 am

jbk1234 wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st


The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.


Plus why would Cleveland pay to get a worse player? Just because they are younger? Pssh I'll keep our assets and Love and let our guys develop by playing in competitive games. Now if this was to get a player like JJJ I mean that's different, that dude is special and if not currently better than Love, will be unless something major happens to him.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#24 » by NoZoLakers » Fri Nov 8, 2019 1:39 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
i know its just hypocritical but ag doesn't fit with james/ad n then u remove the only capable starting sg on the team, i would that trade makes la worse
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#25 » by Mamba4Goat » Fri Nov 8, 2019 1:41 am

NoZoLakers wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
i know its just hypocritical but ag doesn't fit with james/ad n then u remove the only capable starting sg on the team, i would that trade makes la worse


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Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st


The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.


Plus why would Cleveland pay to get a worse player? Just because they are younger? Pssh I'll keep our assets and Love and let our guys develop by playing in competitive games. Now if this was to get a player like JJJ I mean that's different, that dude is special and if not currently better than Love, will be unless something major happens to him.


I was just talking about from a value perspective.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#26 » by NoZoLakers » Fri Nov 8, 2019 1:43 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
i know its just hypocritical but ag doesn't fit with james/ad n then u remove the only capable starting sg on the team, i would that trade makes la worse


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jbk1234 wrote:
The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.


Plus why would Cleveland pay to get a worse player? Just because they are younger? Pssh I'll keep our assets and Love and let our guys develop by playing in competitive games. Now if this was to get a player like JJJ I mean that's different, that dude is special and if not currently better than Love, will be unless something major happens to him.


I was just talking about from a value perspective.

none of these guys are "stars" so their value is subjective n dependent on the team looking to acquire them
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#27 » by nzahir » Fri Nov 8, 2019 7:37 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st

LAL would rather have Danny Green over Gordon, let alone adding Kuzma and 2nds.

Gordon isn't a fit on there at all. He can't go off scoring wise as well as Kuzma can.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#28 » by LakersLegacy » Fri Nov 8, 2019 9:29 am

Kuzma is cost controlled for 2 seasons. And young. I think because of his contract he is a better value than the other 3 overpaid guys.

I don’t know what contender wants to spend $18million to $31million on players that can’t lead to contention.

Kuzma is a role player paid appropriately. And every team could use him for his salary. So I think Kuzma has the most value.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#29 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Fri Nov 8, 2019 2:35 pm

Think Gordon is a bit overrated. Has the efficiency of a avg guard. Not much of a rebounder or passer. He's a good defender. If I could afford Love contract, I would prefer him over Gordon. Not overly in love with any of the 4 trade value.

1. Kuzma , cost controlled.
2. Love, rebounding and scoring at borderline elite levels.
3/4 . Gordon / Randle. Think they been pretty even the last 2 or 3 seasons. Polar opposites of the 4 position.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#30 » by jbk1234 » Fri Nov 8, 2019 3:10 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.

LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.

For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
i know its just hypocritical but ag doesn't fit with james/ad n then u remove the only capable starting sg on the team, i would that trade makes la worse


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jbk1234 wrote:
The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.


Plus why would Cleveland pay to get a worse player? Just because they are younger? Pssh I'll keep our assets and Love and let our guys develop by playing in competitive games. Now if this was to get a player like JJJ I mean that's different, that dude is special and if not currently better than Love, will be unless something major happens to him.


I was just talking about from a value perspective.


Value is a function of what the seller and buyer would agree to in a voluntary transaction. It doesn't really exist as an abstract concept. What the seller is willing to agree to matters.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#31 » by zimpy27 » Fri Nov 8, 2019 6:51 pm

I'd have Kuzma and Gordon on par.

Kuzma gets a lot of compliments for his work ethic, he's young and he hasn't had the opportunity the other guys have had. He isn't as good as Gordon or Love right now but he hasn't been maximized so I could imagine his trade value being quite high.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon 

Post#32 » by Karmaloop » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:06 am

DeathLineup wrote:Yes. I think teams in the league would be willing to surrender better assets for Love than Kuzma. Especially winning teams.


I very much disagree. I'm not sure there's very many teams that want to have Kevin Love clogging up more than a quarter of their cap when they can have Kuzma at a fraction of that price.

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