Kyle Kuzma vs Julius Randle vs Kevin Love vs Aaron Gordon
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Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
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Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.
Plus why would Cleveland pay to get a worse player? Just because they are younger? Pssh I'll keep our assets and Love and let our guys develop by playing in competitive games. Now if this was to get a player like JJJ I mean that's different, that dude is special and if not currently better than Love, will be unless something major happens to him.
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i know its just hypocritical but ag doesn't fit with james/ad n then u remove the only capable starting sg on the team, i would that trade makes la worseMamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
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NoZoLakers wrote:i know its just hypocritical but ag doesn't fit with james/ad n then u remove the only capable starting sg on the team, i would that trade makes la worseMamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
Revenged25 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.
Plus why would Cleveland pay to get a worse player? Just because they are younger? Pssh I'll keep our assets and Love and let our guys develop by playing in competitive games. Now if this was to get a player like JJJ I mean that's different, that dude is special and if not currently better than Love, will be unless something major happens to him.
I was just talking about from a value perspective.
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Mamba4Goat wrote:NoZoLakers wrote:i know its just hypocritical but ag doesn't fit with james/ad n then u remove the only capable starting sg on the team, i would that trade makes la worseMamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1stRevenged25 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.
Plus why would Cleveland pay to get a worse player? Just because they are younger? Pssh I'll keep our assets and Love and let our guys develop by playing in competitive games. Now if this was to get a player like JJJ I mean that's different, that dude is special and if not currently better than Love, will be unless something major happens to him.
I was just talking about from a value perspective.
none of these guys are "stars" so their value is subjective n dependent on the team looking to acquire them
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Mamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1st
LAL would rather have Danny Green over Gordon, let alone adding Kuzma and 2nds.
Gordon isn't a fit on there at all. He can't go off scoring wise as well as Kuzma can.
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Kuzma is cost controlled for 2 seasons. And young. I think because of his contract he is a better value than the other 3 overpaid guys.
I don’t know what contender wants to spend $18million to $31million on players that can’t lead to contention.
Kuzma is a role player paid appropriately. And every team could use him for his salary. So I think Kuzma has the most value.
I don’t know what contender wants to spend $18million to $31million on players that can’t lead to contention.
Kuzma is a role player paid appropriately. And every team could use him for his salary. So I think Kuzma has the most value.
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Think Gordon is a bit overrated. Has the efficiency of a avg guard. Not much of a rebounder or passer. He's a good defender. If I could afford Love contract, I would prefer him over Gordon. Not overly in love with any of the 4 trade value.
1. Kuzma , cost controlled.
2. Love, rebounding and scoring at borderline elite levels.
3/4 . Gordon / Randle. Think they been pretty even the last 2 or 3 seasons. Polar opposites of the 4 position.
1. Kuzma , cost controlled.
2. Love, rebounding and scoring at borderline elite levels.
3/4 . Gordon / Randle. Think they been pretty even the last 2 or 3 seasons. Polar opposites of the 4 position.
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Mamba4Goat wrote:NoZoLakers wrote:i know its just hypocritical but ag doesn't fit with james/ad n then u remove the only capable starting sg on the team, i would that trade makes la worseMamba4Goat wrote:Fwiw I would consider an AG for Kuz, Green, and a few 2nds. I would consider AG for Randle+Knox+1st. I would probably ask for one of Cleveland's guards in a Love/Gordon swap though.
LA can't match for Kuz trades so I'm ignoring him.
For Randle/Love I would probably do Randle for Love+1stRevenged25 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
The Cavs obviously wouldn't do any of those trades. The Randle one is particularly galling.
Plus why would Cleveland pay to get a worse player? Just because they are younger? Pssh I'll keep our assets and Love and let our guys develop by playing in competitive games. Now if this was to get a player like JJJ I mean that's different, that dude is special and if not currently better than Love, will be unless something major happens to him.
I was just talking about from a value perspective.
Value is a function of what the seller and buyer would agree to in a voluntary transaction. It doesn't really exist as an abstract concept. What the seller is willing to agree to matters.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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I'd have Kuzma and Gordon on par.
Kuzma gets a lot of compliments for his work ethic, he's young and he hasn't had the opportunity the other guys have had. He isn't as good as Gordon or Love right now but he hasn't been maximized so I could imagine his trade value being quite high.
Kuzma gets a lot of compliments for his work ethic, he's young and he hasn't had the opportunity the other guys have had. He isn't as good as Gordon or Love right now but he hasn't been maximized so I could imagine his trade value being quite high.
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DeathLineup wrote:Yes. I think teams in the league would be willing to surrender better assets for Love than Kuzma. Especially winning teams.
I very much disagree. I'm not sure there's very many teams that want to have Kevin Love clogging up more than a quarter of their cap when they can have Kuzma at a fraction of that price.
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