Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model]

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Re: Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model] 

Post#21 » by DeathLineup » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:57 pm

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jayjaysee wrote:Assuming my tax line goes with the leagues tax line, I won’t be paying the tax but will be far over the cap.

I have the same question too. Can the expansion team go over their determined cap? What's their tax line?

My team would be very different if I'm allowed to cross the determined cap.


Exceeding the cap is legal. As is paying the tax.

Please just stop mentioning me man. You started a false narrative about me. You tried to kill my reputation in front of everyone. I don't **** with you. Just stop you shameless mod.
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Re: Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model] 

Post#22 » by getrichordie » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:59 pm

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Laimbeer wrote:Isn't it really unlikely Nance would be unprotected?

It's indeed a head-scratcher to see Nance being unprotected.

But if the Cavs are determined to have a clean cap sheet for next season, the easiest way to get it is by unprotecting Nance and Love. Why not unprotect Drummond? Because he is reportedly likely to opt out.


Yeah, I don't see any reason to trust a NBC Sports version over a crowd-sourced RealGM one.
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Re: Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model] 

Post#23 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:23 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:I have the same question too. Can the expansion team go over their determined cap? What's their tax line?

My team would be very different if I'm allowed to cross the determined cap.


Exceeding the cap is legal. As is paying the tax.

Please just stop mentioning me man. You started a false narrative about me. You tried to kill my reputation in front of everyone. I don't **** with you. Just stop you shameless mod.


You asked a question and he politely answered it. Responding by calling him shameless is absolutely you being the problem. Please rethink how you are acting.

And yes, as far as I can tell his answer was right by historical standards:

For instance, see:
The expansion team is not bound to the salary cap during the draft.


https://nbahoopsonline.com/History/Leagues/NBA/Rules/Expansion.html

However, I will note that assuming the process done 15 years ago and a new process would be fully the same seems unlikely. If someone like Jeff Bezos started a team I could see the NBA owners giving a 5 year no exceeding the cap type rule in fear of being outspent. Or a double the lux tax for first 5 years. Etc.

Doing a draft where teams can pick a player and they simply don't appear on the books of any team is the rule I think would be least likely to stay the same.
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Re: Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model] 

Post#24 » by babyjax13 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:21 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Exceeding the cap is legal. As is paying the tax.

Please just stop mentioning me man. You started a false narrative about me. You tried to kill my reputation in front of everyone. I don't **** with you. Just stop you shameless mod.


You asked a question and he politely answered it. Responding by calling him shameless is absolutely you being the problem. Please rethink how you are acting.

And yes, as far as I can tell his answer was right by historical standards:

For instance, see:
The expansion team is not bound to the salary cap during the draft.


https://nbahoopsonline.com/History/Leagues/NBA/Rules/Expansion.html

However, I will note that assuming the process done 15 years ago and a new process would be fully the same seems unlikely. If someone like Jeff Bezos started a team I could see the NBA owners giving a 5 year no exceeding the cap type rule in fear of being outspent. Or a double the lux tax for first 5 years. Etc.

Doing a draft where teams can pick a player and they simply don't appear on the books of any team is the rule I think would be least likely to stay the same.


The CBA actually has policies in place for how an expansion team would come into existence, etc. They are linked on page 1 of my thread. It still includes the 'unlimited amnesty.' Whether that changes in a new round of CBA negotiations - who knows? But I think part of the goal is to possibly mitigate poor decisions by other teams. I don't think the NBA likes teams being unable to build competitive rosters, but it is pretty clear an expansion team is going to be far away from competing...so why not let them 'amnesty' John Wall for the Wizards, etc.? They still pay the player, the player can (I think?) make additional money by signing elsewhere, and the team the player came from now has some room to maneuver.
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Re: Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model] 

Post#25 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:27 pm

babyjax13 wrote:The CBA actually has policies in place for how an expansion team would come into existence, etc. They are linked on page 1 of my thread. It still includes the 'unlimited amnesty.' Whether that changes in a new round of CBA negotiations - who knows? But I think part of the goal is to possibly mitigate poor decisions by other teams. I don't think the NBA likes teams being unable to build competitive rosters, but it is pretty clear an expansion team is going to be far away from competing...so why not let them 'amnesty' John Wall for the Wizards, etc.? They still pay the player, the player can (I think?) make additional money by signing elsewhere, and the team the player came from now has some room to maneuver.


Yeah, I am just saying that I think these are almost somewhat of placeholders in that, if enough parties demand so, they can change.
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Re: Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model] 

Post#26 » by DeathLineup » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:00 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:You asked a question and he politely answered it. Responding by calling him shameless is absolutely you being the problem. Please rethink how you are acting.

Have you took time to read the first post he made in this topic?

I read a mod started a false narrative to harm a user reputation. Did he got a warning for that? Or it's only me who got a warning for responding to a bad mod?
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Re: Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model] 

Post#27 » by DeathLineup » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:02 pm

getrichordie wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Isn't it really unlikely Nance would be unprotected?

It's indeed a head-scratcher to see Nance being unprotected.

But if the Cavs are determined to have a clean cap sheet for next season, the easiest way to get it is by unprotecting Nance and Love. Why not unprotect Drummond? Because he is reportedly likely to opt out.


Yeah, I don't see any reason to trust a NBC Sports version over a crowd-sourced RealGM one.

NBC's list of unprotected players makes much more sense than RealGM's list.
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Re: Mock 2020 expansion draft [NBC Sports model] 

Post#28 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:29 pm

The irony of the last two posts b2b is amazing. Accuses the evil mod of a false narrative. Followed by posting the exact same reason the boogieman said the thread was created. I mean....
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