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So Turner would be the Warriors best center but not the Pacers best center?
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Wizop wrote:So Turner would be the Warriors best center but not the Pacers best center?
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Isnt sabonis your best center..? I think clarke would look good next to him
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Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
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Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clark, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
a) isnt justin holiday a FA, cant do S&T with 2nd overall
b) grizzlies probably prefer to keep JJJ over wolves 2021 FRP
c) by same token warriors prefer 2021 wolves pick over mcdermott, 2 1sts and someone they can sign for MLE
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Godaddycurse wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clark, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
a) isnt justin holiday a FA, cant do S&T with 2nd overall
b) grizzlies probably prefer to keep JJJ over wolves 2021 FRP
c) by same token warriors prefer 2021 wolves pick over mcdermott, 2 1sts and someone they can sign for MLE
A) You're right. They'll have to draft for the Grizzles at #2 and then complete the trade that way
B) Probably. But they are also getting Aaron Holiday and Goga Bitadze, two young players they can develope behind Morant and JV
C) I'm sure they would. But it's the overall cost of acquiring Turner, as they're winning by quite a bit if they're just trading #2 for Turner
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Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
You just made the trade significantly more complicated than it needs to be.
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MUpacersSIC wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
You just made the trade significantly more complicated than it needs to be.Either keep the trade as is, or do Turner for the #2 directly.
Would pacers fans prefer clarke + future 1st or #2? haven't really heard feedback on that one yet.
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Godaddycurse wrote:MUpacersSIC wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
You just made the trade significantly more complicated than it needs to be.Either keep the trade as is, or do Turner for the #2 directly.
Would pacers fans prefer clarke + future 1st or #2? haven't really heard feedback on that one yet.
Honestly, it depends on what the Pacers get for Oladipo (who I believe they try to trade first). If they can get a PF that fits with Domas, I think they go with #2 for a score/shooter who can defend (first choice for me personally). If they don’t, I’d try to get Clarke and a pick.
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MUpacersSIC wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
You just made the trade significantly more complicated than it needs to be.Either keep the trade as is, or do Turner for the #2 directly.
Hmm, it does look completed
But it's basically the addition of Grizzlies trading JJJ for the Wolves pick plus Aaron Holiday and Goga, and Warriors trading the Wolves pick for Doug and Justin Holiday and two future picks
Pacers get perhaps the one player who is a better fit than Turner next to Sabonis, and consolidate their bench pieces into a young prospect in Clarke
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Topofthekey wrote:MUpacersSIC wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
You just made the trade significantly more complicated than it needs to be.Either keep the trade as is, or do Turner for the #2 directly.
Hmm, it does look completed
But it's basically the addition of Grizzlies trading JJJ for the Wolves pick plus Aaron Holiday and Goga, and Warriors trading the Wolves pick for Doug and Justin Holiday and two future picks
Pacers get perhaps the one player who is a better fit than Turner next to Sabonis, and consolidate their bench pieces into a young prospect in Clarke
I have JJJ>Turner in value and Clarke > pacer's bench pieces though. I dont have Turner worth much more than the #2 in this draft and thats only because GSW is desperate to win now and have a big hole at the 5.
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I have JJJ>Turner in value and Clarke > pacer's bench pieces though. I dont have Turner worth much more than the #2 in this draft and thats only because GSW is desperate to win now and have a big hole at the 5.
I mostly agree with your assessment, but that's where the Pacers are able to extract a bit more value out of the Warriors, which are then routed in a package to the Grizzlies for JJJ and Clarke
Turner is more or less the ideal 5 for the Warriors. Getting Turner for only #2 is a win for them. Getting Turner for both the #2 and the Wolves pick is an overpay
So, split the difference and take the middle ground here. Trade both picks for Turner plus bench help and future picks
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Godaddycurse wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clark, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
a) isnt justin holiday a FA, cant do S&T with 2nd overall
Yup! Can't realistically both be in the same deal.
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Godaddycurse wrote:trade 1:
GSW trade TPE + future 2nd(s) and/or cash for choice of expiring salary filler (Gay, Portis etc)
trade 2:
Memphis trades: Clarke, Utah 2021 1st
Memphis receives: 2nd overall
GSW trades: 2nd overall, filler from trade 1
GSW receives: Myles Turner
Indiana trades: Turner
Indiana receives: Clarke, Utah 2021 1st, filler from trade 1 (i like gay personally)
Why for Indiana: saves money long term and get a good PF fit next to sabonis as well as a 1st
Why for Memphis: try to get another young player with star potential
Why for GSW: get ideal center for their team
I don't know why this keeps coming up. There is no reason to think Indiana is trading Turner.
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basketballwacko2 wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:trade 1:
GSW trade TPE + future 2nd(s) and/or cash for choice of expiring salary filler (Gay, Portis etc)
trade 2:
Memphis trades: Clarke, Utah 2021 1st
Memphis receives: 2nd overall
GSW trades: 2nd overall, filler from trade 1
GSW receives: Myles Turner
Indiana trades: Turner
Indiana receives: Clarke, Utah 2021 1st, filler from trade 1 (i like gay personally)
Why for Indiana: saves money long term and get a good PF fit next to sabonis as well as a 1st
Why for Memphis: try to get another young player with star potential
Why for GSW: get ideal center for their team
I don't know why this keeps coming up. There is no reason to think Indiana is trading Turner.
Fair enough
Basically it would become Oladipo + Turner + fillers for Paul, Clarke, filler, 3(?) 1sts. not too shabby imo.
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Godaddycurse wrote:basketballwacko2 wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:trade 1:
GSW trade TPE + future 2nd(s) and/or cash for choice of expiring salary filler (Gay, Portis etc)
trade 2:
Memphis trades: Clarke, Utah 2021 1st
Memphis receives: 2nd overall
GSW trades: 2nd overall, filler from trade 1
GSW receives: Myles Turner
Indiana trades: Turner
Indiana receives: Clarke, Utah 2021 1st, filler from trade 1 (i like gay personally)
Why for Indiana: saves money long term and get a good PF fit next to sabonis as well as a 1st
Why for Memphis: try to get another young player with star potential
Why for GSW: get ideal center for their team
I don't know why this keeps coming up. There is no reason to think Indiana is trading Turner.
Fair enoughi got the idea from the other oladipo for Paul + picks trades that were shot down due to finances actually and thought this turner trade could save them money and remain competitive.
Basically it would become Oladipo + Turner + fillers for Paul, Clarke, filler, 3(?) 1sts. not too shabby imo.
It's simply the existence of Chris Paul on the roster that makes it so impossibly tough to build around. Paul at over $40m, Brogdon at $20m, Sabonis at $18.5m, and Warren on the budget deal of $11m, and we're already at essentially $90m, leaving $40m total for the remaining 10-11 spots. It's just not very tenable for us.
But where are 3 1sts coming from? You included 1 coming to Indy.
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Scoot McGroot wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:basketballwacko2 wrote:
I don't know why this keeps coming up. There is no reason to think Indiana is trading Turner.
Fair enoughi got the idea from the other oladipo for Paul + picks trades that were shot down due to finances actually and thought this turner trade could save them money and remain competitive.
Basically it would become Oladipo + Turner + fillers for Paul, Clarke, filler, 3(?) 1sts. not too shabby imo.
It's simply the existence of Chris Paul on the roster that makes it so impossibly tough to build around. Paul at over $40m, Brogdon at $20m, Sabonis at $18.5m, and Warren on the budget deal of $11m, and we're already at essentially $90m, leaving $40m total for the remaining 10-11 spots. It's just not very tenable for us.
But where are 3 1sts coming from? You included 1 coming to Indy.
In the other Paul trades i've seen they include 2 1sts going to Indy as well, so plus this one = 3 in total. I agree paul's contract is tough to stomach thats why i got this idea to partner with clarke's cheap rookie scale contract.
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Topofthekey wrote:Clarke is a nice young piece, but if Pacers are trading Turner and Grizzlies are involved, JJJ would probably be the main target
Warriors are doing great in this trade, I think they can give a bit more value
Counter offer:
Grizzlies give: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, Jazz 2021 FRP
Grizzlies get: Warriors 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, Aaron Holiday, Goga Bitadze
Same trade as OP, except they also trade JJJ for the Wolves pick + Aaron Holiday + Goga
Pacers give: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday, Goga Bitadze, 2022 FRP
Pacers get: Jaren Jackson, Brandon Clarke, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Same trade as OP, except Pacers don't get the Jazz pick, sends out Doug, the Holidays, Goga, and a pick, but lands JJJ also in the trade
Warriors give: 2020 FRP (#2), Wolves 2021 FRP, fillers (Looney, Paschall, Smailagic, filler from earlier trade)
Warriors get: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Justin Holiday, Jazz 2021 FRP, Pacers 2022 FRP
Same trade as OP, except they also trade the Wolves pick to upgrade their bench and get a Pacer pick. The Jazz pick also goes to them instead of Pacers
The Grizz will quickly and firmly say no
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Godaddycurse wrote:Isnt sabonis your best center..? I think clarke would look good next to him
Sabonis plays inside on offense and Turner plays inside on defense. at least that's what they did with McMillan. If I were the new coach I'd play offense with one on the left block and one on the right block and see how that works. Sabonis is very left handed and Turner is right handed.
that said our 2nd unit was very effective with Sabonis high as he screens and passes well. and Turner inside on defense was key as he protects the rim and alters shots.
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Even if it is considered a weak draft I would highly prefer the #2 overall versus Brandon Clarke. You sign a placeholder at the 4, (You could play some lineups with Warren at the 4), and you draft the best available long-term talent. The only for sure "keeper" is Sabonis at this point so i can't imagine you give up the potential upside just for a perceived position of need. The goal of any trade like this should be to find a long-term all-star level piece to pair with Sabonis.
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Scoot McGroot wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:basketballwacko2 wrote:
I don't know why this keeps coming up. There is no reason to think Indiana is trading Turner.
Fair enoughi got the idea from the other oladipo for Paul + picks trades that were shot down due to finances actually and thought this turner trade could save them money and remain competitive.
Basically it would become Oladipo + Turner + fillers for Paul, Clarke, filler, 3(?) 1sts. not too shabby imo.
It's simply the existence of Chris Paul on the roster that makes it so impossibly tough to build around. Paul at over $40m, Brogdon at $20m, Sabonis at $18.5m, and Warren on the budget deal of $11m, and we're already at essentially $90m, leaving $40m total for the remaining 10-11 spots. It's just not very tenable for us.
But where are 3 1sts coming from? You included 1 coming to Indy.
Yeah Paul at $41.3 million I don't know how you can build a team with a guy that expensive on the team unless you have a bunch of rookie deals.
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