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[HornetJail]

Then keep him

[spankymoore7]

Bouncy rim running centers that cant shoot are not nearly as in demand right now as forwards that can switch and shoot. PJ is the latter.

Allen is a nice 5th starter type, but CHA just drafted PJ and he was quite good as a rookie. The 2 extra cheap years are huge.

And this conversation is about Allen vs PJ which is a reasonable one. Throw the CHA #3 pick into the mix and the conversation is absolutely unreasonable.

All of this- and if we do want that athletic rim running center (and I do), one of Wiseman or Okongwu will be available to us at pick #3, both of whom should fill that role as well or better than Allen.

This is the unpredictable part though and Allen hasn't even finished developing as a player yet. Wiseman and Okongwu aren't some can't miss prospects.

Allen can and does switch on everything. His shotblocking and defensive awareness is high level. His rebounding is great. His athletic ability and more importantly, mobility is the stuff you can't teach, along with his length and bounce. His offensive game is starting to develop beyond rim running. He's starting to blow by guys on face ups off the dribble, develop a jump hook and his passing, which was always solid, is getting better and becoming more effective now that he needs to at least be face guarded in the midrange alone with the ball. He's solid from the line with solid form. I don't see him ever shooting 3's, or a ton of jumpers, but soon enough I believe you'll see him add a legit midrange that makes him all that more dangerous, because then he becomes hard to guard, because you can't leave him open on the elbows, but when you close he can 2 dribble drive, or spin to a hook, or quickly pass back to the ball handler and then dive to the rim off a double screen and is a totally capable passer to dish surprising dimes when the defense collapses.

If Kyrie and KD didn't bring their boy DeAndre along for the ride, Allen is the type of player who would only be available as part of a blockbuster type deal. I'm not saying as the centerpiece on his own, but as a major piece in a major deal.

At this point I realize no one will see eye to eye with me on this deal as a whole, and honestly, I was surely being ambitious. But Allen is good enough and has enough remaining potential to be a surprise candidate for high draft capital, especially in this specific draft for any teams looking to draft a center in the top 7, Imho.

At this point I'm just arguing for Allen's respect lol.

You seem really high on him. Sounds like you should keep him instead of trade him

[vincecarter4pres]

All of this- and if we do want that athletic rim running center (and I do), one of Wiseman or Okongwu will be available to us at pick #3, both of whom should fill that role as well or better than Allen.

This is the unpredictable part though and Allen hasn't even finished developing as a player yet. Wiseman and Okongwu aren't some can't miss prospects.

Allen can and does switch on everything. His shotblocking and defensive awareness is high level. His rebounding is great. His athletic ability and more importantly, mobility is the stuff you can't teach, along with his length and bounce. His offensive game is starting to develop beyond rim running. He's starting to blow by guys on face ups off the dribble, develop a jump hook and his passing, which was always solid, is getting better and becoming more effective now that he needs to at least be face guarded in the midrange alone with the ball. He's solid from the line with solid form. I don't see him ever shooting 3's, or a ton of jumpers, but soon enough I believe you'll see him add a legit midrange that makes him all that more dangerous, because then he becomes hard to guard, because you can't leave him open on the elbows, but when you close he can 2 dribble drive, or spin to a hook, or quickly pass back to the ball handler and then dive to the rim off a double screen and is a totally capable passer to dish surprising dimes when the defense collapses.

If Kyrie and KD didn't bring their boy DeAndre along for the ride, Allen is the type of player who would only be available as part of a blockbuster type deal. I'm not saying as the centerpiece on his own, but as a major piece in a major deal.

At this point I realize no one will see eye to eye with me on this deal as a whole, and honestly, I was surely being ambitious. But Allen is good enough and has enough remaining potential to be a surprise candidate for high draft capital, especially in this specific draft for any teams looking to draft a center in the top 7, Imho.

At this point I'm just arguing for Allen's respect lol.

You seem really high on him. Sounds like you should keep him instead of trade him

But this funny thing is, I'm just a fan behind a keyboard, not an actual executive of the Brooklyn Nets. And it seems like there's a good chance he'll be dealt. And we're on a Trades and Transactions board of the RealGM Forums. So I've got that going for me.