Official: Ed Davis to NYK (from Utah)

[HartfordWhalers]

Ed Davis is a center, not a power forward, and I assume he gets bought out and signs with a contender.

You mean a different contender.

[jbk1234]

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NYK gets 2 '23 2nds per below.

Another power forward Obi Toppin and Julius Randle. Even if we assuming Portis' team option is getting turned down it seems like our current management is trying to get a team full of power forwards again.


Goshdarn it

I'm sure that Randle will be on the way out soon. He currently is the Ricky Davis to the young coming Knicks squad like the real deal was had he stayed around during LeBron James early years with the Cavs.

This is exceedingly unfair to Randle.

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[Wizop]

Sure doesn't sound like Knicks want to keep room for Hayward.

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[SD2042]

Another power forward Obi Toppin and Julius Randle. Even if we assuming Portis' team option is getting turned down it seems like our current management is trying to get a team full of power forwards again.


Goshdarn it

I'm sure that Randle will be on the way out soon. He currently is the Ricky Davis to the young coming Knicks squad like the real deal was had he stayed around during LeBron James early years with the Cavs.

This is exceedingly unfair to Randle.

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The killing part of all of this is that Randle is talented in his abilities. His problem is that he has not been around any vet teams who will hold him accountable for his recklessness and selfishness on the floor. He has to change that attitude. Bad habits are hard to break when a player continues to conduct himself like this. It would not surprise me if his value is low due to his attitude. It's possible that he could experience a change about himself on the horizon like when Zach Randolph did once he was traded to the Memphis Grizzlies several years ago. Look how that worked out for him. It's possible that Randle could change up. He has to make the changes in order for his career to flourish for the better.

[jbk1234]

I'm sure that Randle will be on the way out soon. He currently is the Ricky Davis to the young coming Knicks squad like the real deal was had he stayed around during LeBron James early years with the Cavs.

This is exceedingly unfair to Randle.

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The killing part of all of this is that Randle is talented in his abilities. His problem is that he has not been around any vet teams who will hold him accountable for his recklessness and selfishness on the floor. He has to change that attitude. Bad habits are hard to break when a player continues to conduct himself like this. It would not surprise me if his value is low due to his attitude. It's possible that he could experience a change about himself on the horizon like when Zach Randolph did once he was traded to the Memphis Grizzlies several years ago. Look how that worked out for him. It's possible that Randle could change up. He has to make the changes in order for his career to flourish for the better.

Reclamation projects are paid under $5M, not $20M though. Also, I'm skeptical that his defensive issues are simply a matter of effort and/or attention.

[shrink]

Ed Davis is a center, not a power forward, and I assume he gets bought out and signs with a contender.

MIN runs a one-big system, and I expect the limited minutes KAT is resting will usually go to Naz Reid, since Rosas found him undrafted and signed him to that Hinkie Special.

Good post, but I don’t think MIN will buy him out though. Rosas always wants the flexibility to make a trade offer on a star if one becomes available, and when he used James Johnson’s money to trade for Rubio, it cost him his matching salary. Spellman and Jacob Evans accounted for $4 mil, but took up two roster spots. With the RFA signings of Beasley ($14.5) and Juancho ($7) and $5 for Davis, Rosas may have salary matching tools again. Culver and Layman weren’t going to cut it. Plus, Davis is a good locker room presence who knows Rubio, and MIN definitely needs some culture adults in there to get the most out of their young players.

I agree with the last part too. I suspect if Davis is untraded after the deadline, Rosas will just buy him out, and give him the chance to sign with a contender for the vet min, if that’s what a Davis wants to do.

[shrink]

I’d also mention that I think Spellman on a $2 mil expiring with his Bird rights is a positive deal, and worth a shot for the Knicks. However, Evans is deadweight $2 mil. If we consider getting Spellman for $4, that’s probably a negative package - hence the 2nd.

I think the trade makes sense for both teams. NYK probably doesn’t mind the $2 mil in dead money by waiving Evans, especially if they get off $5 mil Davis (so a net savings of $1 mil). Good deal. If MIN hadn’t done the deal, they would waive Evans for the roster spot, and only have $2 mil of matching salary for future trades. Also, since they weren’t going to play Spellman anyway, Davis is a better player for them in the locker room - any on court minutes are gravy. Good deal for them too.

[SD2042]

This is exceedingly unfair to Randle.

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The killing part of all of this is that Randle is talented in his abilities. His problem is that he has not been around any vet teams who will hold him accountable for his recklessness and selfishness on the floor. He has to change that attitude. Bad habits are hard to break when a player continues to conduct himself like this. It would not surprise me if his value is low due to his attitude. It's possible that he could experience a change about himself on the horizon like when Zach Randolph did once he was traded to the Memphis Grizzlies several years ago. Look how that worked out for him. It's possible that Randle could change up. He has to make the changes in order for his career to flourish for the better.

Reclamation projects are paid under $5M, not $20M though. Also, I'm skeptical that his defensive issues are simply a matter of effort and/or attention.

In this case, reclamations based on behavior rather than skills set. Like with ZBo, it was more on behavior than skills set. I'm wouldn't expect Randle to up and do a 360 on his defensive liabilities. He may care less about defense as much as Jabari Parker. Then again, maybe on a new team, maybe he could attempt to try harder to improve somewhat defensively. Who knows.