Woj: Kennard extension

[Apz]

How does incentives work toward capspace? Must akways count as max possible right or there coyld be some reakly funky contracts.

[K_chile22]

How does incentives work toward capspace? Must akways count as max possible right or there coyld be some reakly funky contracts.

Depends, against the apron if the team is hard capped they count no matter what. As far as cap space goes it depends on if they're likely or unlikely bonuses. If the player met the criteria last season they are likely bonuses and count, otherwise they don't. Rockets tried to give nene a contract full of bonuses as a trade chip and the league made a ruling that his contract only counted for base salary in trades so you can't get away with that (still bitter, that ruling was BS. At worst you null the deal)

[meekrab]

How does incentives work toward capspace? Must akways count as max possible right or there coyld be some reakly funky contracts.

In the past "likely" incentives counted against the cap and "unlikely" didn't, where "likely" incentives were ones the player had met in the previous season.

I see the post above me already answered this, but yeah.

[tobysunsfan]

Surely this exists just to get traded in the future for a better player

[Apz]

So say mavs make an offer sheat to say markkanen, they could technically double his salary as long as its unlikely? Shat happens if he fulfills it first season? Does it count towards cap rest of contract?

[SNPA]

This, combined with what other shooters got this off season, can put to bed the Buddy is over paid comments.

[Alonzo_Morning]

So say mavs make an offer sheat to say markkanen, they could technically double his salary as long as its unlikely? Shat happens if he fulfills it first season? Does it count towards cap rest of contract?

Aren't incentives done year on year?

[DanishLakerFan]

I think its too much for Luke Kennard. He's solid, but 64M is a lot.

[Alonzo_Morning]

I think its too much for Luke Kennard. He's solid, but 64M is a lot.

The 8 mil in incentives are unlikely though

[Apz]

I think its too much for Luke Kennard. He's solid, but 64M is a lot.

The 8 mil in incentives are unlikely though

They were said being likely, and if what people say here is correct he must have done them last year to be named thhat

[Scoot McGroot]

So say mavs make an offer sheat to say markkanen, they could technically double his salary as long as its unlikely? Shat happens if he fulfills it first season? Does it count towards cap rest of contract?

Incentives cannot exceed 15% of a players salary in any season.

All incentives (likely and unlikely) would count against the apron/hard cap if a hard cap is incurred, too. So, if the Mavs were to use the full MLE and incur a hard cap, they’d have to count all player incentives against the hard cap, and they’d have some maneuvering to do if someone had a ton of incentives.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q74

[Scoot McGroot]

I think its too much for Luke Kennard. He's solid, but 64M is a lot.

The 8 mil in incentives are unlikely though

They were said being likely, and if what people say here is correct he must have done them last year to be named thhat

I think they were described as achievable. We don’t know yet if they’re likely or unlikely. Those would be determined by basing the requirements against the whole league (in the first year of a new contract, not just the players previous season).

[DanishLakerFan]

I think its too much for Luke Kennard. He's solid, but 64M is a lot.

The 8 mil in incentives are unlikely though

56M is still too much for my taste, but if they are seing something in the guy, then it's good for both parties and when a guy like Joe Harris can get 4/75M, Clarkson 4/51 i suppose there's a case for that deal for Kennard.

[BowlRips]

When you consider the contract, then the draft night deal Detroit made was a win.
Do not see much positive value in that contract and they were able to get the 19th overall pick for it

Now I also understand why the Nets chose Shamet over Kennard

[bondom34]

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[psman2]

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This plus the incentives moves this extension from the somewhat negative to clearly neutral with a good chance of being good.

And yes if Memphis hasn't found its SG solution this year Kennard was likely on their radar.

And IMO Buddy is still overpaid.

[Scoot McGroot]

When you consider the contract, then the draft night deal Detroit made was a win.
Do not see much positive value in that contract and they were able to get the 19th overall pick for it

Now I also understand why the Nets chose Shamet over Kennard

Detroit also gave up 4 2nd rounders in that deal, too. I get moving on, and I get concentrating as many 2nds as you can into a bonus 1st, but it basically valued Kennard pretty low.

[NoZoLakers]

This, combined with what other shooters got this off season, can put to bed the Buddy is over paid comments.

one overpaid player doesnt make the next not overpaid

[SNPA]

This, combined with what other shooters got this off season, can put to bed the Buddy is over paid comments.

one overpaid player doesnt make the next not overpaid

That’s not how a market works.

[Texas Chuck]

This, combined with what other shooters got this off season, can put to bed the Buddy is over paid comments.

one overpaid player doesnt make the next not overpaid

That’s not how a market works.

It's not zero sum. Buddy is going to get every chance this year to justify that extension. If he does, good on him. If not, then he's a bad contract regardless of Luke Kennard.