[Woj] DET - SAC (Wright for Joseph)

[rpa]

*checks bingo card*

Did anyone have Wright for Joseph and 2 SRPs?

No because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. Sorry Kings fans who are excited about this. I mean in theory Delon and Buddy as your backup guard rotation is pretty good really. But Buddy doesn't like coming off the bench for whatever reason and the problem remains the frontcourt.

It's cheap sure, but I don't know that I waste any assets on a 4th guard with so many questions up front.

I think you underestimate how much Kings fans hate CoJo. Remember how much Mavs fans hated Barnes and were so happy to see him leave no matter what? Same thing here.

[City of Trees]

*checks bingo card*

Did anyone have Wright for Joseph and 2 SRPs?

No because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. Sorry Kings fans who are excited about this. I mean in theory Delon and Buddy as your backup guard rotation is pretty good really. But Buddy doesn't like coming off the bench for whatever reason and the problem remains the frontcourt.

It's cheap sure, but I don't know that I waste any assets on a 4th guard with so many questions up front.

One move at a time. The Kings have wanted to upgrade the backup PG position all season and tonight they accomplished that goal. Dismissing the move because of other needs is weird.

[loserX]

*checks bingo card*

Did anyone have Wright for Joseph and 2 SRPs?

No because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. Sorry Kings fans who are excited about this. I mean in theory Delon and Buddy as your backup guard rotation is pretty good really. But Buddy doesn't like coming off the bench for whatever reason and the problem remains the frontcourt.

It's cheap sure, but I don't know that I waste any assets on a 4th guard with so many questions up front.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2049261&p=88582011#p88582011

I wonder if you could swap Joseph and a 2nd or two for Delon Wright. He's a better two-way guy than Joseph, isn't too old, his future salary fits your margins; Pistons still get a depth guard back in Joseph and can cut him next year and keep whatever sweeteners the teams agree on.

[Buzzard]

I like it for both. Kings get a better backup and Pistons get two picks. Nothing mind blowing but I don't see anything to hate on for either team.

[Texas Chuck]

I think you underestimate how much Kings fans hate CoJo. Remember how much Mavs fans hated Barnes and were so happy to see him leave no matter what? Same thing here.

Warriors fans hated him. A few ignorant Mavs fans who don't understand Dallas made him a 1st option because Dirk was 40 and the team had no talent at all disliked him.

I always liked Barnes. Was basically the only person on this board who understood he was going to opt out of $25M and sign a big new multiyear deal.

And like I said it's fine. They give up little and they get a useful player. But it still doesn't make much sense.

[City of Trees]

*checks bingo card*

Did anyone have Wright for Joseph and 2 SRPs?

No because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. Sorry Kings fans who are excited about this. I mean in theory Delon and Buddy as your backup guard rotation is pretty good really. But Buddy doesn't like coming off the bench for whatever reason and the problem remains the frontcourt.

It's cheap sure, but I don't know that I waste any assets on a 4th guard with so many questions up front.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2049261&p=88582011#p88582011

I wonder if you could swap Joseph and a 2nd or two for Delon Wright. He's a better two-way guy than Joseph, isn't too old, his future salary fits your margins; Pistons still get a depth guard back in Joseph and can cut him next year and keep whatever sweeteners the teams agree on.

Take a bow and light a victory cigar!

[Texas Chuck]

Good call mate.

[kalenclayton]

*checks bingo card*

Did anyone have Wright for Joseph and 2 SRPs?

No because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. Sorry Kings fans who are excited about this. I mean in theory Delon and Buddy as your backup guard rotation is pretty good really. But Buddy doesn't like coming off the bench for whatever reason and the problem remains the frontcourt.

It's cheap sure, but I don't know that I waste any assets on a 4th guard with so many questions up front.

I think you underestimate how much Kings fans hate CoJo. Remember how much Mavs fans hated Barnes and were so happy to see him leave no matter what? Same thing here.

I’m gonna be honest and say that while Joseph was infuriating at times, he was also good and steady. I know this will probably cause a reaction, but Joseph wasn’t the godawful player that he’s been talked down to be. He still deserves NBA minutes and he can still play. He just didn’t have the surrounding cast to make up for his biggest deficiencies. I share the same issue with his overdribbling, but he wasn’t the guy that everyone hated on. If you only read the comments here and the tweets about him, you’d wonder how this man is in the NBA.

[kingcong95]

I think you underestimate how much Kings fans hate CoJo. Remember how much Mavs fans hated Barnes and were so happy to see him leave no matter what? Same thing here.

Warriors fans hated him. A few ignorant Mavs fans who don't understand Dallas made him a 1st option because Dirk was 40 and the team had no talent at all disliked him.

I always liked Barnes. Was basically the only person on this board who understood he was going to opt out of $25M and sign a big new multiyear deal.

And like I said it's fine. They give up little and they get a useful player. But it still doesn't make much sense.

We had to overtly tank several games to keep the pick we used on him, and he gave us what we expected of him. We offered him a 4/64 rookie extension and he turned it down to chase the bigger role we couldn't offer him. We soured on him largely because of two numbers: 5, 32.

[Buzzard]

*checks bingo card*

Did anyone have Wright for Joseph and 2 SRPs?

No because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. Sorry Kings fans who are excited about this. I mean in theory Delon and Buddy as your backup guard rotation is pretty good really. But Buddy doesn't like coming off the bench for whatever reason and the problem remains the frontcourt.

It's cheap sure, but I don't know that I waste any assets on a 4th guard with so many questions up front.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2049261&p=88582011#p88582011

I wonder if you could swap Joseph and a 2nd or two for Delon Wright. He's a better two-way guy than Joseph, isn't too old, his future salary fits your margins; Pistons still get a depth guard back in Joseph and can cut him next year and keep whatever sweeteners the teams agree on.

i think that is the first perfect call I have seen this year

Most times we brag about being close like throwing hand grenades close

[codydaze]

No because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. Sorry Kings fans who are excited about this. I mean in theory Delon and Buddy as your backup guard rotation is pretty good really. But Buddy doesn't like coming off the bench for whatever reason and the problem remains the frontcourt.

It's cheap sure, but I don't know that I waste any assets on a 4th guard with so many questions up front.

I think you underestimate how much Kings fans hate CoJo. Remember how much Mavs fans hated Barnes and were so happy to see him leave no matter what? Same thing here.

I’m gonna be honest and say that while Joseph was infuriating at times, he was also good and steady. I know this will probably cause a reaction, but Joseph wasn’t the godawful player that he’s been talked down to be. He still deserves NBA minutes and he can still play. He just didn’t have the surrounding cast to make up for his biggest deficiencies. I share the same issue with his overdribbling, but he wasn’t the guy that everyone hated on. If you only read the comments here and the tweets about him, you’d wonder how this man is in the NBA.

100%. Sacramento just wasn't the right type of team for him, we put more responsibility on him than he should be getting. He's better off on a good team where he can do more of the dirty work.

[LightTheBeam]

I think you underestimate how much Kings fans hate CoJo. Remember how much Mavs fans hated Barnes and were so happy to see him leave no matter what? Same thing here.

I’m gonna be honest and say that while Joseph was infuriating at times, he was also good and steady. I know this will probably cause a reaction, but Joseph wasn’t the godawful player that he’s been talked down to be. He still deserves NBA minutes and he can still play. He just didn’t have the surrounding cast to make up for his biggest deficiencies. I share the same issue with his overdribbling, but he wasn’t the guy that everyone hated on. If you only read the comments here and the tweets about him, you’d wonder how this man is in the NBA.

100%. Sacramento just wasn't the right type of team for him, we put more responsibility on him than he should be getting. He's better off on a good team where he can do more of the dirty work.

I couldn't disagree with you guys more. Pounding the rock into the paint with nowhere to go, making stupid passes, having a God awful shot, slower than molasses. How many times did this guy put up 0-0-0 on 0-4 shootung or close to it in 18 minutes. Hes not good. His defense is okay, but once a guy singles him out, they blow right by him (Monk did this 10x the last time we played them).

I've never hated a player more, and I lived thru Salmons sessions and Galloway lol.



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[kalenclayton]

I think you underestimate how much Kings fans hate CoJo. Remember how much Mavs fans hated Barnes and were so happy to see him leave no matter what? Same thing here.

I’m gonna be honest and say that while Joseph was infuriating at times, he was also good and steady. I know this will probably cause a reaction, but Joseph wasn’t the godawful player that he’s been talked down to be. He still deserves NBA minutes and he can still play. He just didn’t have the surrounding cast to make up for his biggest deficiencies. I share the same issue with his overdribbling, but he wasn’t the guy that everyone hated on. If you only read the comments here and the tweets about him, you’d wonder how this man is in the NBA.

100%. Sacramento just wasn't the right type of team for him, we put more responsibility on him than he should be getting. He's better off on a good team where he can do more of the dirty work.

Absolutely. He can’t be given the amount of responsibility that he was in Sacramento. That wasn’t fair to him or to the fans. I don’t believe Detroit is the team for him, but he’s likely to be cut at the end of the season. His biggest contribution to Detroit will likely be a mentorship to Hayes. It will be valuable.

[Pelon chingon]

I think you underestimate how much Kings fans hate CoJo. Remember how much Mavs fans hated Barnes and were so happy to see him leave no matter what? Same thing here.

I’m gonna be honest and say that while Joseph was infuriating at times, he was also good and steady. I know this will probably cause a reaction, but Joseph wasn’t the godawful player that he’s been talked down to be. He still deserves NBA minutes and he can still play. He just didn’t have the surrounding cast to make up for his biggest deficiencies. I share the same issue with his overdribbling, but he wasn’t the guy that everyone hated on. If you only read the comments here and the tweets about him, you’d wonder how this man is in the NBA.

100%. Sacramento just wasn't the right type of team for him, we put more responsibility on him than he should be getting. He's better off on a good team where he can do more of the dirty work.

His defense fell off a cliff tho.

[codydaze]

I’m gonna be honest and say that while Joseph was infuriating at times, he was also good and steady. I know this will probably cause a reaction, but Joseph wasn’t the godawful player that he’s been talked down to be. He still deserves NBA minutes and he can still play. He just didn’t have the surrounding cast to make up for his biggest deficiencies. I share the same issue with his overdribbling, but he wasn’t the guy that everyone hated on. If you only read the comments here and the tweets about him, you’d wonder how this man is in the NBA.

100%. Sacramento just wasn't the right type of team for him, we put more responsibility on him than he should be getting. He's better off on a good team where he can do more of the dirty work.

His defense fell off a cliff tho.

He might be losing a step but our team defense sure hasn't been doing him any favors.

[Pelon chingon]

I’m gonna be honest and say that while Joseph was infuriating at times, he was also good and steady. I know this will probably cause a reaction, but Joseph wasn’t the godawful player that he’s been talked down to be. He still deserves NBA minutes and he can still play. He just didn’t have the surrounding cast to make up for his biggest deficiencies. I share the same issue with his overdribbling, but he wasn’t the guy that everyone hated on. If you only read the comments here and the tweets about him, you’d wonder how this man is in the NBA.

100%. Sacramento just wasn't the right type of team for him, we put more responsibility on him than he should be getting. He's better off on a good team where he can do more of the dirty work.

I couldn't disagree with you guys more. Pounding the rock into the paint with nowhere to go, making stupid passes, having a God awful shot, slower than molasses. How many times did this guy put up 0-0-0 on 0-4 shootung or close to it in 18 minutes. Hes not good. His defense is okay, but once a guy singles him out, they blow right by him (Monk did this 10x the last time we played them).

I've never hated a player more, and I lived thru Salmons sessions and Galloway lol.



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Sessions was the worst. Remember we were wondering if he had vertigo he was so uncoordinated.

[blind prophet]

Was talking with a fan who mentioned Wright earlier in the day of thread, made a trade thread here.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2050056

Was Cojo + Memphis 2021, and either one of the Portland 2024, 2025 seconds.

[blind prophet]

*checks bingo card*

Did anyone have Wright for Joseph and 2 SRPs?

No because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. Sorry Kings fans who are excited about this. I mean in theory Delon and Buddy as your backup guard rotation is pretty good really. But Buddy doesn't like coming off the bench for whatever reason and the problem remains the frontcourt.

It's cheap sure, but I don't know that I waste any assets on a 4th guard with so many questions up front.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2049261&p=88582011#p88582011

I wonder if you could swap Joseph and a 2nd or two for Delon Wright. He's a better two-way guy than Joseph, isn't too old, his future salary fits your margins; Pistons still get a depth guard back in Joseph and can cut him next year and keep whatever sweeteners the teams agree on.

Was 2 days before I talked with someone about the idea. So you were first.

[LightTheBeam]

Man i knew Wright was doing good in Detroit, but I was surprised by his advanced stats. The advanced stats love him. Per, vorp, dbpm, obpm. Awesome!

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[gambitx777]

It's a smart move. Saves money. And they can flip wright later for a second or two and get cory off the books for free


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