2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre

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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#21 » by WAKEANT » Sun May 23, 2021 7:27 am

Ell Curry wrote:A complicated but I believe possible Oubre and Wiseman for Boucher and Lowry sign and trade seems like it would be interesting for the Raptors. Picks could go either way depending on leverage with Lowry stuff, possibly the Raptors 7th pick for the Warriors 12th since Wiseman was a terrible fit on the Warriors and will need time Curry doesn't have to wait to hit his potential, but he was individually not unproductive and still probably projects as a 17-10 kind of center type.

GS: Lowry-Curry-Poole-Klay-Wiggins-Toscano-Draymond-Boucher-MLE big body center rotation to compete with next year along with the pick from Minnesota to use on a frontcourt player, and their own this year on a guy like Franz Wagner to develop as their SF of the future.

Toronto: Wiseman backs up Birch next year, Oubre is a better player than Yuta/Stanley as the OG/Siakam backup and Boucher will be a free agent after next year we probably don't want to pay up for. Raps can draft a wing or guard with their pick, hopefully moving up in the lotto to get Green or Suggs but more likely we stay at 7 or fall to 8 and take a wing and develop them so in 2-3 years a lineup like Wiseman-Siakam-OG-Moody-VanVleet is ready to really compete with Trent, Harris and Flynn providing the backcourt bench minutes and it's easy enough to find a 5 for the MLE to compete with Wiseman.


No way this happens. GSW are not going to trade an useful young wing & upcoming very young big for an aging point guard who will probably become a very overpriced backup and their former Santa Cruz G-league player. Just terrible. Lowry good player, but aging & redundant (no trade). Boucher backup center, their former Santa Cruz player (2ndRP).
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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#22 » by Mike lorenzo » Sun May 23, 2021 9:32 am

He fits me in the Kings ..
Bagley to Warriors
Oubre (ST) to Kings ..

Or something more complicated ...

Hield to Bucks

Lopez to Warriors

Oubre (ST) / Connaughton to Kings
1+1=11
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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#23 » by Bimbo_Coles » Sun May 23, 2021 10:58 am

Mike lorenzo wrote:He fits me in the Kings ..
Bagley to Warriors
Oubre (ST) to Kings ..

Or something more complicated ...

Hield to Bucks

Lopez to Warriors

Oubre (ST) / Connaughton to Kings


Down with this approach.
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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#24 » by Bimbo_Coles » Sun May 23, 2021 10:05 pm

Still think the best move would be to bring Oubre back if he's willing to come off the bench. If not, makes sense to bring in a vet role-player and maintain the salary slot. Few options that would work:

Bulls for Sato or Thad
Magic for Harris
Cavs for Prince

Or I would definitely consider Oubre plus one of the picks for Marcus Smart.
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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#25 » by jbk1234 » Mon May 24, 2021 5:14 pm

Bimbo_Coles wrote:Still think the best move would be to bring Oubre back if he's willing to come off the bench. If not, makes sense to bring in a vet role-player and maintain the salary slot. Few options that would work:

Bulls for Sato or Thad
Magic for Harris
Cavs for Prince

Or I would definitely consider Oubre plus one of the picks for Marcus Smart.
I think that window closed at the deadline from the Cavs POV. The value was in clearing Prince's deal a year early. If both players are making the same or a similar amount, I'm holding on to Prince on an expiring deal.

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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#26 » by NYG » Mon May 24, 2021 11:44 pm

Bimbo_Coles wrote:Still think the best move would be to bring Oubre back if he's willing to come off the bench. If not, makes sense to bring in a vet role-player and maintain the salary slot. Few options that would work:

Bulls for Sato or Thad
Magic for Harris
Cavs for Prince

Or I would definitely consider Oubre plus one of the picks for Marcus Smart.


The last part is interesting. Which teams would trade an upgrade for Oubre and 2022 Unprotected Warriors 1st. That pick won’t get Smart, but keeping the Wolves pick, their own lotto pick, Wiggins and Wiseman while turning Oubre into an upgrade could look nice with health. That’s a lot of depth.
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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#27 » by NYG » Mon May 24, 2021 11:58 pm

Kelly Oubre, Kevon Looney and '22 Warriors 1st for Harrison Barnes
Kelly Oubre and '22 Warriors 1st for Malik Beasley

I like Beasley because he provides the ability to move Klay along slowly.
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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#28 » by gswhoops » Tue May 25, 2021 2:08 pm

Warriors will let Oubre walk. We’re going to be in repeater tax hell for the next 2 years minimum (assuming Steph extends), ownership isn’t going to add another $10+ million contract to the books without some guaranteed salary outgoing.
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Re: 2021-22 Team: Kelly Oubre 

Post#29 » by penbeast0 » Tue May 25, 2021 2:55 pm

Ell Curry wrote:A complicated but I believe possible Oubre and Wiseman for Boucher and Lowry sign and trade seems like it would be interesting for the Raptors. Picks could go either way depending on leverage with Lowry stuff, possibly the Raptors 7th pick for the Warriors 12th since Wiseman was a terrible fit on the Warriors and will need time Curry doesn't have to wait to hit his potential, but he was individually not unproductive and still probably projects as a 17-10 kind of center type.

GS: Lowry-Curry-Poole-Klay-Wiggins-Toscano-Draymond-Boucher-MLE big body center rotation to compete with next year along with the pick from Minnesota to use on a frontcourt player, and their own this year on a guy like Franz Wagner to develop as their SF of the future.

Toronto: Wiseman backs up Birch next year, Oubre is a better player than Yuta/Stanley as the OG/Siakam backup and Boucher will be a free agent after next year we probably don't want to pay up for. Raps can draft a wing or guard with their pick, hopefully moving up in the lotto to get Green or Suggs but more likely we stay at 7 or fall to 8 and take a wing and develop them so in 2-3 years a lineup like Wiseman-Siakam-OG-Moody-VanVleet is ready to really compete with Trent, Harris and Flynn providing the backcourt bench minutes and it's easy enough to find a 5 for the MLE to compete with Wiseman.


With all due respect, if you trade Kyle Lowry for a young center who you are pushing as great potential, you don't put him on the bench behind Khem Birch. You start him, though you might use a quick hook if he isn't doing the things you were trying to teach him.
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