Chris Boucher to your team

[Rockazoids]

Boucher is a very interesting trade chip as in he plays a very valuable role as stretch shot blocking big man. His contract being so small he could contribute to any contender.
New York
to New York
Chris Boucher

To Toronto
Kevin Knox
2023 Dallas 1st

There is no reason for NY to give up a asset for Boucher who will be a RFA with Randle & Toppin at the PF spot.
Given more minutes Toppin will be able to hold down the backup PF spot. This is just throwing a asset out the window.

[hugepatsfan]

My response on Boucher is the same as all the Kyle Anderson threads. Good player, lots of teams could use him. Not good enough that many will give up value though.

[patman66]

The fact that Boucher is nothing more than a rental really limits his value to a good second round pick for me.

team trading for him get his bird rights too. For GSW he would be a rental because you likely can't afford him after though.

Likewise the celts, I certainly don't see a mid first for him as a return even after eating 7 mill.

[Resistance]

Boucher has been a popular name lately and the Toronto fans seem to prefer a pick so they can eventually get a player with multiple years of cost control. Another way to look at it is that they think that Boucher is worthy of a good contract as long as another team (not Toronto) signs him to it.

They have Siakam, Achiuwa and Barnes to take minutes at PF and that pushes Boucher to Center and he comes across as more of a backup rather than starter. His salary for 2021-22 is $7,020,000 which is somewhat on the high end of the scale for a backup Center.

Since they drafted Barnes in high lottery and had the deal for Lowry and Precious simmering, the Raptors already knew on draft night that they would be overloaded at PF especially after Siakam comes back in early - mid November. Either they didn't try very hard to move Boucher for a 2021 first or the market wasn't there to support what some considered to be his value.

12. Primo.........SG
13. Duarte........SG
14. Moody.........SG
15. Kispert........SF
16. Dengun.......Center
17. Murphy........SF
18. Mann..........PG
19. Jones.........Center
20. J Johnson....SF
21. K Johnson....SG
22. Jackson.......Center/PF
23. Garuba........PF/Center
24. Christopher...SG/PG
25. Grimes........SG
26. Hyland........SG/PG
27. Thomas.......SG
28. Springer......SG
29. Sharpe........Center
30. Aldama.......PF/Center


The players that fit the profile of a PF or combo Big (PF/Center or Center/PF)

* Jackson (Pacers)
* Garuba (Houston)
* Aldama (Memphis)

Memphis and the Pacers weren't in the market for a starting PF, so no need to trade for Boucher and give up the multiple years of a cost controlled rookie.

Houston is rebuilding, so no need to give up the multiple years of a draft pick for Boucher.


Now on to the 2022 draft.

Using the draft order at Tankathon

15. Chicago
16. New York
17. Memphis
18. Indiana
19. Miami --> Houston
20. Clippers --> OKC
21. Golden State
22. Dallas
23. Atlanta
24. Denver
25. Utah --> Memphis
26. Philadelphia
27. Lakers --> Memphis
28. Phoenix --> OKC
29. Brooklyn --> Miami
30. Milwaukee


15. Chicago -- LaVine needs a new contract, so maybe the Bulls won't want to have Boucher needing a new contract as well.
16. New York -- Has Randle
17. Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
18. Indiana -- Drafted Jackson (2021)
19. Miami --> Houston -- Drafted Garuba (2021) and is rebuilding.
20. Clippers --> OKC -- Presti isn't in a rush to win
21. Golden State -- They already have large team salary. Having a cost controlled player seems more likely rather than have to give Boucher a new deal.
22. Dallas -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
23. Atlanta -- Just gave Collins a new deal. Team salary is starting to get heavy.
24. Denver -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
25. Utah --> Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
26. Philadelphia -- WIP (Work In Progress) in regards to resolving the situation with their PF types.
27. Lakers --> Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
28. Phoenix --> OKC -- Presti isn't in a rush to win
29. Brooklyn --> Miami -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
30. Milwaukee -- Team salary is starting to get heavy.

[Godaddycurse]

Boucher has been a popular name lately and the Toronto fans seem to prefer a pick so they can eventually get a player with multiple years of cost control. Another way to look at it is that they think that Boucher is worthy of a good contract as long as another team (not Toronto) signs him to it.

They have Siakam, Achiuwa and Barnes to take minutes at PF and that pushes Boucher to Center and he comes across as more of a backup rather than starter. His salary for 2021-22 is $7,020,000 which is somewhat on the high end of the scale for a backup Center.

Since they drafted Barnes in high lottery and had the deal for Lowry and Precious simmering, the Raptors already knew on draft night that they would be overloaded at PF especially after Siakam comes back in early - mid November. Either they didn't try very hard to move Boucher for a 2021 first or the market wasn't there to support what some considered to be his value.

12. Primo.........SG
13. Duarte........SG
14. Moody.........SG
15. Kispert........SF
16. Dengun.......Center
17. Murphy........SF
18. Mann..........PG
19. Jones.........Center
20. J Johnson....SF
21. K Johnson....SG
22. Jackson.......Center/PF
23. Garuba........PF/Center
24. Christopher...SG/PG
25. Grimes........SG
26. Hyland........SG/PG
27. Thomas.......SG
28. Springer......SG
29. Sharpe........Center
30. Aldama.......PF/Center


The players that fit the profile of a PF or combo Big (PF/Center or Center/PF)

* Jackson (Pacers)
* Garuba (Houston)
* Aldama (Memphis)

Memphis and the Pacers weren't in the market for a starting PF, so no need to trade for Boucher and give up the multiple years of a cost controlled rookie.

Houston is rebuilding, so no need to give up the multiple years of a draft pick for Boucher.


Now on to the 2022 draft.

Using the draft order at Tankathon

15. Chicago
16. New York
17. Memphis
18. Indiana
19. Miami --> Houston
20. Clippers --> OKC
21. Golden State
22. Dallas
23. Atlanta
24. Denver
25. Utah --> Memphis
26. Philadelphia
27. Lakers --> Memphis
28. Phoenix --> OKC
29. Brooklyn --> Miami
30. Milwaukee


15. Chicago -- LaVine needs a new contract, so maybe the Bulls won't want to have Boucher needing a new contract as well.
16. New York -- Has Randle
17. Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
18. Indiana -- Drafted Jackson (2021)
19. Miami --> Houston -- Drafted Garuba (2021) and is rebuilding.
20. Clippers --> OKC -- Presti isn't in a rush to win
21. Golden State -- They already have large team salary. Having a cost controlled player seems more likely rather than have to give Boucher a new deal.
22. Dallas -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
23. Atlanta -- Just gave Collins a new deal. Team salary is starting to get heavy.
24. Denver -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
25. Utah --> Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
26. Philadelphia -- WIP (Work In Progress) in regards to resolving the situation with their PF types.
27. Lakers --> Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
28. Phoenix --> OKC -- Presti isn't in a rush to win
29. Brooklyn --> Miami -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
30. Milwaukee -- Team salary is starting to get heavy.

Why are you limiting the return to 2022 1st only?

Depending on where a team is in the standings, boucher would be a good get for playoff teams such as utah, portland, gsw, boston, or even Chicago/Minny if they surprise us this year.

Boucher made less than tucker did last year and that didnt contenders from adding him. He also makes significantly less than kyle anderson.

Also it seems like raptors will play precious at C. Our 4 big rotation will be birch/precious and siakam/boucher. I wont be surprised if nurse play siakam at the 3 a bit too

[penbeast0]

Can he play starting pf defense? I have serious doubts....

When I saw him, he looked like a 3 and D type to me, I don't think his scoring last year is sustainable but he is a mobile and active shot blocker. He can't play center against post up players because he doesn't have the weight and lower body strength to hold post position but next to a guy like Sabonis, he'd be fine.

It's the expiring part that's a problem when you try to trade a guy who has more future potential than he has proven to this point.

[jayjaysee]

I think Minnesota offering Toronto’s choice of Okogie/Culver

Really like the idea of Bagley and 2nds though. Similar to the Powell/GTJ trade for Toronto.

Portland has wanted someone like Boucher for 4 years?

Phoenix fans were offering Saric+Smith as a package for other big forwards, Boucher would seem like a good fit there? Can play with Ayton or at center with Jae

[Godaddycurse]

Can he play starting pf defense? I have serious doubts....

When I saw him, he looked like a 3 and D type to me, I don't think his scoring last year is sustainable but he is a mobile and active shot blocker. He can't play center against post up players because he doesn't have the weight and lower body strength to hold post position but next to a guy like Sabonis, he'd be fine.

It's the expiring part that's a problem when you try to trade a guy who has more future potential than he has proven to this point.

We had to play OG vs big C and it wasnt optimal. Boucher rolls and finishes fairly well too so hes more than just 3 pt shooter. He contributes well in different ways on offense without needing the ball

[jscott]

I think he’d be a nice fit in MN. The issue is finding fair value.

Flier on Culver?

I’d do that. Not sure how Toronto’s FO would feel.

[Resistance]

Boucher has been a popular name lately and the Toronto fans seem to prefer a pick so they can eventually get a player with multiple years of cost control. Another way to look at it is that they think that Boucher is worthy of a good contract as long as another team (not Toronto) signs him to it.

They have Siakam, Achiuwa and Barnes to take minutes at PF and that pushes Boucher to Center and he comes across as more of a backup rather than starter. His salary for 2021-22 is $7,020,000 which is somewhat on the high end of the scale for a backup Center.

Since they drafted Barnes in high lottery and had the deal for Lowry and Precious simmering, the Raptors already knew on draft night that they would be overloaded at PF especially after Siakam comes back in early - mid November. Either they didn't try very hard to move Boucher for a 2021 first or the market wasn't there to support what some considered to be his value.

12. Primo.........SG
13. Duarte........SG
14. Moody.........SG
15. Kispert........SF
16. Dengun.......Center
17. Murphy........SF
18. Mann..........PG
19. Jones.........Center
20. J Johnson....SF
21. K Johnson....SG
22. Jackson.......Center/PF
23. Garuba........PF/Center
24. Christopher...SG/PG
25. Grimes........SG
26. Hyland........SG/PG
27. Thomas.......SG
28. Springer......SG
29. Sharpe........Center
30. Aldama.......PF/Center


The players that fit the profile of a PF or combo Big (PF/Center or Center/PF)

* Jackson (Pacers)
* Garuba (Houston)
* Aldama (Memphis)

Memphis and the Pacers weren't in the market for a starting PF, so no need to trade for Boucher and give up the multiple years of a cost controlled rookie.

Houston is rebuilding, so no need to give up the multiple years of a draft pick for Boucher.


Now on to the 2022 draft.

Using the draft order at Tankathon

15. Chicago
16. New York
17. Memphis
18. Indiana
19. Miami --> Houston
20. Clippers --> OKC
21. Golden State
22. Dallas
23. Atlanta
24. Denver
25. Utah --> Memphis
26. Philadelphia
27. Lakers --> Memphis
28. Phoenix --> OKC
29. Brooklyn --> Miami
30. Milwaukee


15. Chicago -- LaVine needs a new contract, so maybe the Bulls won't want to have Boucher needing a new contract as well.
16. New York -- Has Randle
17. Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
18. Indiana -- Drafted Jackson (2021)
19. Miami --> Houston -- Drafted Garuba (2021) and is rebuilding.
20. Clippers --> OKC -- Presti isn't in a rush to win
21. Golden State -- They already have large team salary. Having a cost controlled player seems more likely rather than have to give Boucher a new deal.
22. Dallas -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
23. Atlanta -- Just gave Collins a new deal. Team salary is starting to get heavy.
24. Denver -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
25. Utah --> Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
26. Philadelphia -- WIP (Work In Progress) in regards to resolving the situation with their PF types.
27. Lakers --> Memphis -- Drafted Aldama (2021) and JJJ needs a contract. Not seeing a first going out for a possible rental of Boucher.
28. Phoenix --> OKC -- Presti isn't in a rush to win
29. Brooklyn --> Miami -- Has to keep because of the Stepien Rule.
30. Milwaukee -- Team salary is starting to get heavy.

Why are you limiting the return to 2022 1st only?

Depending on where a team is in the standings, boucher would be a good get for playoff teams such as utah, portland, gsw, boston, or even Chicago/Minny if they surprise us this year.

Boucher made less than tucker did last year and that didnt contenders from adding him. He also makes significantly less than kyle anderson.

Also it seems like raptors will play precious at C. Our 4 big rotation will be birch/precious and siakam/boucher. I wont be surprised if nurse play siakam at the 3 a bit too

Milwaukee Bucks acquiring P.J. Tucker from Houston Rockets, sources say

The Milwaukee Bucks are acquiring Houston Rockets forward P.J. Tucker in a trade to fortify the franchise's playoff push in the Eastern Conference, sources told ESPN.

Bucks general manager Jon Horst had been persistent in his pursuit of Tucker in recent weeks, and a deal was struck with Rockets GM Rafael Stone late Wednesday afternoon, sources said.

The Bucks are sending guard D.J. Augustin and forward D.J. Wilson to the Rockets for Tucker and forward Rodions Kurucs, sources said. The key to completing the deal includes the redirecting of draft picks the two teams had previously traded in the offseason. Houston is pushing back the 2022 first-round pick Milwaukee owes it to the unprotected 2023 draft, sources said. The Rockets get the right to swap their 2021 second-round pick for the Bucks' 2021 first-round pick -- unless the Bucks' pick somehow falls 1-9, sources said.

Essentially, the Bucks will be moving back a few slots from the end of the first round -- where they will presumably be picking this season -- to the top of the second round, where the Rockets -- who own the second-worst record in the league -- appear destined to land.

It was obvious at the trade deadline that Houston wasn't going to be very good for the rest of the 2020-21 season and that Milwaukee would be fairly good. So Milwaukee was able to project that they would be moving down from the 20's to the top of the second round.

Toronto won't have a 2022 second to swap for a 2022 first in the 20's.

2022 second round draft pick to Golden State or Charlotte
Toronto's 2022 2nd round pick to Golden State (via Philadelphia) protected for selections 55-60 or to Charlotte (via Philadelphia to Golden State) protected for selections 31-54 (Toronto's obligation to Golden State or Charlotte will thereafter be extinguished) [Philadelphia-Toronto, 2/6/2019; Golden State-Philadelphia, 2/6/2020; Charlotte-Golden State, 3/25/2021]

Houston is also eating the 2021-22 season on the DJ Augustin contract ($7,000,000). There is also a small partial guarantee ($333,333) for the 2022-23 season.

In regards to only going to 2022 first round picks, I needed to sleep and couldn't continue to 2023, 2024 etc.

Between the Stepien Rule and not having a first round pick available for a particular draft year, a fair number of the better teams are going to be constrained on sending out a first round pick for the next few seasons. Deals involving the rights of a prospect/player just drafted will still be possible, but those trades are agreed to in the offseason around the time of the draft and technically for the rights rather than a draft pick. The 2021 draft is in the past and a Boucher trade will involve a future pick.


Not exactly the same as the Tucker - DJ Augustin trade, but somewhat similar.

No idea if Dallas would do it, but will toss the idea out there for demonstration purposes because I have it as extremely difficult for Toronto to flip Boucher for a first + expiring salary.


Dallas
Out: Powell + Dallas 2025 first
In: Boucher

Toronto
Out: Boucher
In: Powell + Dallas 2025 first


Powell....$11,000,000......$11,814,815


Dallas gets rid of the final season of the Powell contract and gets Bird Rights for Boucher. Since they have been somewhat hampered by the first round picks owed to NYK, Dallas might not want to send out another first.

Toronto gets a first for Boucher less what needs to be allocated for eating the 2022-23 season on the Powell contract.

[Godaddycurse]

I think he’d be a nice fit in MN. The issue is finding fair value.

Flier on Culver?

I’d do that. Not sure how Toronto’s FO would feel.

Didnt wolves try to dump culver for a second and there were no takers? I imagine wolves would need to add more to this. Personally i have no interest since he will be even further from home playing for the raptors (i think shrink said thst was a big deal for him)

[Godaddycurse]

No idea if Dallas would do it, but will toss the idea out there for demonstration purposes because I have it as extremely difficult for Toronto to flip Boucher for a first + expiring salary.


Dallas
Out: Powell + Dallas 2025 first
In: Boucher

Toronto
Out: Boucher
In: Powell + Dallas 2025 first


Powell....$11,000,000......$11,814,815


Dallas gets rid of the final season of the Powell contract and gets Bird Rights for Boucher. Since they have been somewhat hampered by the first round picks owed to NYK, Dallas might not want to send out another first.

Toronto gets a first for Boucher less what needs to be allocated for eating the 2022-23 season on the Powell contract.

Difference is boucher is way more productive than tucker was last year. I raised him as an example for boucher's salary not being an issue (can be easily matched), not that they are the same value. Put it another way, Toronto is eating an extra almost 16M in salary with your swap for Powell. That alone is worth a 1st. Dallas is missing value for the difference in powell and boucher as a player this year as well.

[pacers33granger]

Can he play starting pf defense? I have serious doubts....

When I saw him, he looked like a 3 and D type to me, I don't think his scoring last year is sustainable but he is a mobile and active shot blocker. He can't play center against post up players because he doesn't have the weight and lower body strength to hold post position but next to a guy like Sabonis, he'd be fine.

It's the expiring part that's a problem when you try to trade a guy who has more future potential than he has proven to this point.

I think this is part of the problem. That would work for him, but not for any team. It's been an iffy fit with Turner, who is a far better player and specifically worked on playing that kind of position.

[Godaddycurse]

Can he play starting pf defense? I have serious doubts....

When I saw him, he looked like a 3 and D type to me, I don't think his scoring last year is sustainable but he is a mobile and active shot blocker. He can't play center against post up players because he doesn't have the weight and lower body strength to hold post position but next to a guy like Sabonis, he'd be fine.

It's the expiring part that's a problem when you try to trade a guy who has more future potential than he has proven to this point.

I think this is part of the problem. That would work for him, but not for any team. It's been an iffy fit with Turner, who is a far better player and specifically worked on playing that kind of position.

Turner was a 5 playing out of position as a 4. Boucher was a 4 playing out of position as a 5... i think if they can each play their natural roles they will see an uptick in production.

[Resistance]

Why are you limiting the return to 2022 1st only?

Depending on where a team is in the standings, boucher would be a good get for playoff teams such as utah, portland, gsw, boston, or even Chicago/Minny if they surprise us this year.

Boucher made less than tucker did last year and that didnt contenders from adding him. He also makes significantly less than kyle anderson.

Also it seems like raptors will play precious at C. Our 4 big rotation will be birch/precious and siakam/boucher. I wont be surprised if nurse play siakam at the 3 a bit too

Milwaukee Bucks acquiring P.J. Tucker from Houston Rockets, sources say

The Milwaukee Bucks are acquiring Houston Rockets forward P.J. Tucker in a trade to fortify the franchise's playoff push in the Eastern Conference, sources told ESPN.

Bucks general manager Jon Horst had been persistent in his pursuit of Tucker in recent weeks, and a deal was struck with Rockets GM Rafael Stone late Wednesday afternoon, sources said.

The Bucks are sending guard D.J. Augustin and forward D.J. Wilson to the Rockets for Tucker and forward Rodions Kurucs, sources said. The key to completing the deal includes the redirecting of draft picks the two teams had previously traded in the offseason. Houston is pushing back the 2022 first-round pick Milwaukee owes it to the unprotected 2023 draft, sources said. The Rockets get the right to swap their 2021 second-round pick for the Bucks' 2021 first-round pick -- unless the Bucks' pick somehow falls 1-9, sources said.

Essentially, the Bucks will be moving back a few slots from the end of the first round -- where they will presumably be picking this season -- to the top of the second round, where the Rockets -- who own the second-worst record in the league -- appear destined to land.

It was obvious at the trade deadline that Houston wasn't going to be very good for the rest of the 2020-21 season and that Milwaukee would be fairly good. So Milwaukee was able to project that they would be moving down from the 20's to the top of the second round.

Toronto won't have a 2022 second to swap for a 2022 first in the 20's.

2022 second round draft pick to Golden State or Charlotte
Toronto's 2022 2nd round pick to Golden State (via Philadelphia) protected for selections 55-60 or to Charlotte (via Philadelphia to Golden State) protected for selections 31-54 (Toronto's obligation to Golden State or Charlotte will thereafter be extinguished) [Philadelphia-Toronto, 2/6/2019; Golden State-Philadelphia, 2/6/2020; Charlotte-Golden State, 3/25/2021]

Houston is also eating the 2021-22 season on the DJ Augustin contract ($7,000,000). There is also a small partial guarantee ($333,333) for the 2022-23 season.

In regards to only going to 2022 first round picks, I needed to sleep and couldn't continue to 2023, 2024 etc.

Between the Stepien Rule and not having a first round pick available for a particular draft year, a fair number of the better teams are going to be constrained on sending out a first round pick for the next few seasons. Deals involving the rights of a prospect/player just drafted will still be possible, but those trades are agreed to in the offseason around the time of the draft and technically for the rights rather than a draft pick. The 2021 draft is in the past and a Boucher trade will involve a future pick.


Not exactly the same as the Tucker - DJ Augustin trade, but somewhat similar.

No idea if Dallas would do it, but will toss the idea out there for demonstration purposes because I have it as extremely difficult for Toronto to flip Boucher for a first + expiring salary.


Dallas
Out: Powell + Dallas 2025 first
In: Boucher

Toronto
Out: Boucher
In: Powell + Dallas 2025 first


Powell....$11,000,000......$11,814,815


Dallas gets rid of the final season of the Powell contract and gets Bird Rights for Boucher. Since they have been somewhat hampered by the first round picks owed to NYK, Dallas might not want to send out another first.

Toronto gets a first for Boucher less what needs to be allocated for eating the 2022-23 season on the Powell contract.

Difference is boucher is way more productive than tucker was last year. I raised him as an example for salary not being an issue, not that they are the same value

Why are you limiting the return to 2022 1st only?

I get chided for not going beyond the 2022 draft, but I am unable to get a response on this:

Dallas
Out: Powell + Dallas 2025 first
In: Boucher

Toronto
Out: Boucher
In: Powell + Dallas 2025 first


Powell....$11,000,000......$11,814,815

Since you didn't address it, I will take take it as a No.

Boucher will still need a new contract just as Tucker did. Boucher will be a better rental than Tucker, but still a rental.


Is the expectation (goal?) that Toronto will be able to do during the season.

Boucher for Expiring + first

[Godaddycurse]

Dallas
Out: Powell + Dallas 2025 first
In: Boucher

Toronto
Out: Boucher
In: Powell + Dallas 2025 first


Powell....$11,000,000......$11,814,815

Since you didn't address it, I will take take it as a No.

Boucher will still need a new contract just as Tucker did. Boucher will be a better rental than Tucker, but still a rental.


Is the expectation (goal?) that Toronto will be able to do during the season.

Boucher for Expiring + first

i added a response up top. basically i think toronto is eating about 16M extra in salary which is worth a 1st in itself, and still owed value for difference in powell and boucher's worth on court this year. An alternative i suggested is Favors + 1st for Boucher so i think we are along similar idea for what boucher is worth (eating extra $$ for a 1st).

I think it will take a 1st to convince masai to part with boucher.. With dragic off the books next year they can easily afford resigning boucher so there's no urgency if that value is not available.

[oldncreaky]

I think Boucher's best fit would be as a PF off the bench for a contender. Utah and Milwaukee are great fits, and other teams might become interested as injuries occur. I doubt he brings back a FRP though.

His $7M salary could likely fit into an existing TPE with no salary coming back to Toronto. I think a late SRP and a TPE would be decent return for Toronto, particularly if Toronto wants to use the roster slot to sign another one of their prospects from training camp while staying under the tax.

[pacers33granger]

When I saw him, he looked like a 3 and D type to me, I don't think his scoring last year is sustainable but he is a mobile and active shot blocker. He can't play center against post up players because he doesn't have the weight and lower body strength to hold post position but next to a guy like Sabonis, he'd be fine.

It's the expiring part that's a problem when you try to trade a guy who has more future potential than he has proven to this point.

I think this is part of the problem. That would work for him, but not for any team. It's been an iffy fit with Turner, who is a far better player and specifically worked on playing that kind of position.

Turner was a 5 playing out of position as a 4. Boucher was a 4 playing out of position as a 5... i think if they can each play their natural roles they will see an uptick in production.

I see absolutely no way that a Boucher/Sabonis (or Sabonis type pairing) would be a good pairing for the team.

[PT416]

No thanks on trading Chris. He's gonna have a breakout season.

[Resistance]

Why are you limiting the return to 2022 1st only?

Depending on where a team is in the standings, boucher would be a good get for playoff teams such as utah, portland, gsw, boston, or even Chicago/Minny if they surprise us this year.

Boucher made less than tucker did last year and that didnt contenders from adding him. He also makes significantly less than kyle anderson.

Also it seems like raptors will play precious at C. Our 4 big rotation will be birch/precious and siakam/boucher. I wont be surprised if nurse play siakam at the 3 a bit too

Depending on where a team is in the standings, boucher would be a good get for playoff teams such as utah, portland, gsw, boston, or even Chicago/Minny if they surprise us this year.

If Minnesota surprises, then that suggests that their PF (or Center) position is stable enough as is. They weren't in the first round of the 2021 draft and they might be reluctant to send out another first.

Boston wasn't in the first round of the 2021 draft. Depending on how things go with Washington & Beal, Boston might be renouncing some players next summer.

I have no idea about what Portland might do.

Golden State already owes a first to Memphis. Not sure if they would dip into the future again and owe another first.

Utah owes a first to Memphis and a first to OKC.

Chicago owes a first to Orlando and a first to San Antonio.