Giannis to Philadelphia w/ New Orleans

[ProcessDoctor]

I can’t see Joel currently being worth a high variance unprotected first and a nice swap? Philly does own the LAC first/swap and could make a real offer if you wanted to..

I also can’t see NOP trading their own unprotected first two years out.. Especially in a deal like this (Zion-risk out, injury risk in). I didn’t see that as an option two days ago and definitely don’t see it now.

The 2027 first is the better of NOP/Mil. NOP trading for Joel and trading an unprotected first two years out is really poor decision making in my mind.

But if Milwaukee was doing this, NOP would find a way to cut out Philly. They have assets to add and could figure out how to add another piece once they have Giannis..

Thanks for catching this, I thought it was a swap like '26. I would remove the '27 1st in this trade. Not sure if I would replace the '28 PHI 1st swap with the LAC 1st. Embiid + #3 + 2028 LAC 1st for Giannis feels rich given just a year ago, Embiid was the better player.

I also think this trade would largely depend on how much Milwaukee likes Ace Bailey (or Tre/VJ). If they think he's a future 1A, then I think the value is there. If they're out on everyone at #3, then this is DOA.

As for Giannis to NOP, see my other post.

[ProcessDoctor]

This trade resets the timeline here for the 76ers. They turn someone with major chronic health issues into a clear cut top 3 player in the NBA and because they didn't move any future 1st round picks, still have enough assets to make another move to help Giannis win in a weak Eastern Conference. The 76ers would need to find a quality Center however, so Giannis won't be forced to play the Center position all the time. However I don't see the Bucks falling for this, unless they really like Ace Bailey. Zion has too many issues for the Bucks to sell him to fans as one of the main pieces coming back in a Giannis trade.

Probably just use the TMLE or vet min on BroLo?

Agree Milwaukee would need to be sold on Ace Bailey.

[jayjaysee]

Thanks for catching this, I thought it was a swap like '26. I would remove the '27 1st in this trade. Not sure if I would replace the '28 PHI 1st swap with the LAC 1st. Embiid + #3 + 2028 LAC 1st for Giannis feels rich given just a year ago, Embiid was the better player.

I don’t think Joel was better than Giannis…

But I also wouldn’t argue it because we don’t get to trade for 2023 Joel. We are trading for the current Joel. I do hope for Sixer fans that he had/has a successful surgery and will be back to dominating. Just don’t think that hope has much trade value?

[ProcessDoctor]

Thanks for catching this, I thought it was a swap like '26. I would remove the '27 1st in this trade. Not sure if I would replace the '28 PHI 1st swap with the LAC 1st. Embiid + #3 + 2028 LAC 1st for Giannis feels rich given just a year ago, Embiid was the better player.

I don’t think Joel was better than Giannis…

But I also wouldn’t argue it because we don’t get to trade for 2023 Joel. We are trading for the current Joel. I do hope for Sixer fans that he had/has a successful surgery and will be back to dominating. Just don’t think that hope has much trade value?

Yea no guarantees either way. I think if Philly were to add the LAC 1st (1 year after Kawhi's contract expires), they would need something else in return, which is why I settled for the swap. Maybe LAC will build through free agency, but I'll be surprised if they're not a lottery team then. Obviously, a lot can happen between now and the 2028 draft.


MIL out: Giannis
MIL in: Zion, Olynyk (exp), #3, 2026 1st swap returned, 2028 LAC 1st

NOP out: Zion, Olynyk (exp), 2026 MIL 1st swap, 2026 IND 1st
NOP in: Embiid

PHI out: Embiid, #3, 2028 LAC 1st
PHI in: Giannis, 2026 IND 1st (top-4 protected)


Maybe something along these lines?

[jayjaysee]

Thanks for catching this, I thought it was a swap like '26. I would remove the '27 1st in this trade. Not sure if I would replace the '28 PHI 1st swap with the LAC 1st. Embiid + #3 + 2028 LAC 1st for Giannis feels rich given just a year ago, Embiid was the better player.

I don’t think Joel was better than Giannis…

But I also wouldn’t argue it because we don’t get to trade for 2023 Joel. We are trading for the current Joel. I do hope for Sixer fans that he had/has a successful surgery and will be back to dominating. Just don’t think that hope has much trade value?

Yea no guarantees either way. I think if Philly were to add the LAC 1st (1 year after Kawhi's contract expires), they would need something else in return, which is why I settled for the swap. Maybe LAC will build through free agency, but I'll be surprised if they're not a lottery team then. Obviously, a lot can happen between now and the 2028 draft.


MIL out: Giannis
MIL in: Zion, Olynyk (exp), #3, 2026 1st swap returned, 2028 LAC 1st

NOP out: Zion, Olynyk (exp), 2026 MIL 1st swap, 2026 IND 1st
NOP in: Embiid

PHI out: Embiid, #3, 2028 LAC 1st
PHI in: Giannis, 2026 IND 1st (top-4 protected)


Maybe something along these lines?

Do not think NOP or Mil do these deals still.

Zion can be bought out/waived and NOP can tank. Or NOP can get Giannis themselves. Joel’s contract isn’t like Zion’s..

Milwaukee is still owed a decent value piece.

[the_process]

Gianni's isn't agreeing to go to NO. So cutting Philly out falls flat.

That being said, I would expect the Bucks to get a better offer elsewhere,

[ProcessDoctor]

Gianni's isn't agreeing to go to NO. So cutting Philly out falls flat.

That being said, I would expect the Bucks to get a better offer elsewhere,

I've been looking for that offer from an East team, and I don't see anything as valuable as #3, unless Cleveland is willing to part with Mobley.

Edit: maybe Scottie Barnes + #9?

If we include West teams, I 100% agree.

[the_process]

Gianni's isn't agreeing to go to NO. So cutting Philly out falls flat.

That being said, I would expect the Bucks to get a better offer elsewhere,

I've been looking for that offer from an East team, and I don't see anything as valuable as #3, unless Cleveland is willing to part with Mobley.

Edit: maybe Scottie Barnes + #9?

If we include West teams, I 100% agree.

Brooklyn can offer two decent picks this year, four or five UNP mid-variance type firsts, and take Giannis into cap space saving MIL the approximate GNP of Uganda. Or Cam Johnson and Nic Claxton could be added?

Bucks fans won't like that too much, probably. But anything outside of a young stud, a high lottery pick, and 5 other picks with a decent shot of being in the lottery is going to feel disappointing. Unfortunately, that offer isn't out there. Maybe they can talk Giannis into staying? But if I'm him, the time to leave is upon us.

We'll see how it plays out.

[Laimbeer]

You even had the audacity to put protection on the 2028 swap.

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