Official [Shams] Pacers trade #23 to New Orleans

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #21 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:45 pm

Don't understand it for the Pels at all , Not guarantee to get your guy at 23. Pacers pick top 4 protected has much better upside potential. Never know what can happen . Mavs went from the finals to landing cooper flag next season.

In-N-Out 247 · Post #22 » by **In-N-Out 247** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:45 pm

Probably obvious for those on this board, but from the Pacers perspective this was done in part to save on potential Luxury Tax dollars in 25/26. #23 pick comes with a $3.2M salary. Once the Pacers resign Myles Turner they'll almost certainly be in the luxury tax.

jayjaysee · Post #23 » by **jayjaysee** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:48 pm

Good for Indy. And probably fine for NOP, but I’d have kept it at this return. Hali might get hurt, Turner might walk..

TheNetsFan · Post #24 » by **TheNetsFan** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:49 pm

The deal makes sense. Saves money and a roster spot for Indy this year. For NOLA, #23 in a deep draft is likely better than Indy's pick will wind up next year.

toooskies · Post #25 » by **toooskies** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:51 pm

I don't understand the Pelicans' motivations here. Wouldn't you rather have the mystery-box pick rather than the objectively mediocre pick?

hoopsfan777 · Post #26 » by **hoopsfan777** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:53 pm

toooskies wrote:I don't understand the Pelicans' motivations here. Wouldn't you rather have the mystery-box pick rather than the objectively mediocre pick?

I like a lot of prospects in this draft. We want to get better this season, than wait on next season.

esvl · Post #27 » by **esvl** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:53 pm

balsamic_ducks wrote:
esvl wrote:Was Ind 1st 26 protected? If not, the Pels FO made a strange move

Top 4

Thanks. The Dallas luck didn’t bother the Pels FO then.

daoneandonly · Post #28 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:54 pm

Why now when you're still playing in the finals?

SkyHook · Post #29 » by **SkyHook** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:55 pm

toooskies wrote:I don't understand the Pelicans' motivations here. Wouldn't you rather have the mystery-box pick rather than the objectively mediocre pick?

Maybe looking to add it to #7 to move up? Would WAS move back one spot for #23?

hoopsfan777 · Post #30 » by **hoopsfan777** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:55 pm

I don't want to trade up and would rather take a guy at 7 and 23 or trade back from 7 and pick up an additional 1st and draft three guys in the first round this year. Or is a team willing to take Murray with pick #23?

louc1970 · Post #31 » by **louc1970** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:56 pm

gswhoops wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Confused why the Pels are doing this now. Do they need this pick for another move, or do they just like this draft overall?

Idk, but there are a lot of guys who make sense for them projected to go in that range. Would love to see them get Jakucionis at 7 and then a big SG who can hit from deep like Clifford, Riley, or McNeeley at 23.

Coward? Not you, but the player.

babyjax13 · Post #32 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:00 pm

There are some stretch 5s that will probably be available around this range (Wolf, Raynaud), so I like it for New Orleans if they plan on making the pick.

Post #33 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:02 pm

Don't understand this for the Pels, on the clock, I get it, now? I don't see the added value, Nets woild have given 26 and 38 for it.

Wizop · Post #34 » by **Wizop** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:29 pm

For the Pels it's a bird in the hand. For the Pacers, it saves a little cash, opens a roster spot for an experienced player on a small contract, and frees their future picks from Sepien restrictions.

the_process · Post #35 » by **the_process** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:43 pm

Continuing rumors Pels want to move up.

JRoy · Post #36 » by **JRoy** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:50 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:for their own 26 1st back.

So Chuck has to retire his trope about teams not trading for their own picks back....Here is another team doing it.

No doubting the news, but thought teams had to wait until their season ended to make trades.

Post #37 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:51 pm

louc1970 wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Confused why the Pels are doing this now. Do they need this pick for another move, or do they just like this draft overall?

Idk, but there are a lot of guys who make sense for them projected to go in that range. Would love to see them get Jakucionis at 7 and then a big SG who can hit from deep like Clifford, Riley, or McNeeley at 23.

Coward? Not you, but the player.

I think Coward is long gone by 23

toooskies · Post #38 » by **toooskies** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:01 pm

gswhoops wrote:
louc1970 wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Idk, but there are a lot of guys who make sense for them projected to go in that range. Would love to see them get Jakucionis at 7 and then a big SG who can hit from deep like Clifford, Riley, or McNeeley at 23.

Coward? Not you, but the player.

I think Coward is long gone by 23

He looks great on paper (stats & measurables) but the number of scouts that can vouch for him in person are going to be really small due to him playing at small schools and getting injured.

tester551 · Post #39 » by **tester551** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:05 pm

JRoy wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:for their own 26 1st back.

So Chuck has to retire his trope about teams not trading for their own picks back....Here is another team doing it.

No doubting the news, but thought teams had to wait until their season ended to make trades.

Definitely they do if they involve players under contract.

Not so sure on this type of deal though - since its only draft picks. It could easily be one that is made public now, but is not 'official' until after the Indiana/OKC series is over.

Dr Positivity · Post #40 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:24 pm

Pacers probably want to bring the entire team back and it's going to hurt financially so I understand trying to save. Jarace Walker is likely available.