The Lakers All-In Offer = ?? Austin Reaves, Dalton Knecht, 2031 Unprotected 1st and Expiring Contracts

[zimpy27]

Rockets get Reaves

Lakers get Allen, Okoro

Cavs get Rui, Jabari, #10

If It's not Kessler/Collins ... Allen my next target, I think you know this Zimpy

Kessler is not nearly as good as Allen. Kessler is not someone I value much. I'd prefer Lively over Kessler.

I know you love Kessler and I don't think he's bad. He's good but he's probably going to be as good as Zubac at peak.

[JHFVF07]

For this package I want AD back! On a more serious note, Lakers need a competent Center, I think we would be fine trading Knect, expirings and 2nds for Ayton, he would be OK playing on a contender.

[SlimShady83]

Rockets get Reaves

Lakers get Allen, Okoro

Cavs get Rui, Jabari, #10

If It's not Kessler/Collins ... Allen my next target, I think you know this Zimpy

Kessler is not nearly as good as Allen. Kessler is not someone I value much. I'd prefer Lively over Kessler.

I know you love Kessler and I don't think he's bad. He's good but he's probably going to be as good as Zubac at peak.

I never said once that Kessler is as good as Allen; Allen is tier 1, Kessler is tier2 .. I would consider Lively as Tier 3. But having Luka he would turn both Kessler/Lively into tier 1 all star centers lols. Look at what Luka did with Hayes in just half a season, if only Hayes would stay out of foul Trouble and that's something Kessler is good at - staying out of foul trouble, so there for taking Kessler over Lively. but happy with either, I just don't see a Dallas/Laker trade that works again unless it involves Reaves and a Reaves/Lively swap doesn't work.

[zimpy27]

Rockets get Reaves

Lakers get Allen, Okoro

Cavs get Rui, Jabari, #10

Jabari salary > Okoro, it's illegal
Edit, if done in June, then it works.

I tweaked it to this before draft.

Cavs get Rui, #10, LAL31FRP

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves

[Mavrelous]

Rockets get Reaves

Lakers get Allen, Okoro

Cavs get Rui, Jabari, #10

Jabari salary > Okoro, it's illegal
Edit, if done in June, then it works.

I tweaked it to this before draft.

Cavs get Rui, #10, LAL31FRP

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves

Overpay for Allen? Rui and #10 and unprotected 1st?

I'd send Vando/Kleber/#10 for Sexton + LAL 27 and take Sexton and LAL 27 to the Cavs.

Cavs get Rui, JSJ, LAL 27 1st

Lakers get Okoro, Allen, Sexton

Jazz get Vando, Kleber, #10

Rockets get Reaves

[SlimShady83]

Jabari salary > Okoro, it's illegal
Edit, if done in June, then it works.

I tweaked it to this before draft.

Cavs get Rui, #10, LAL31FRP

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves

Overpay for Allen? Rui and #10 and unprotected 1st?

I'd send Vando/Kleber/#10 for Sexton + LAL 27 and take Sexton and LAL 27 to the Cavs.

Cavs get Rui, JSJ, LAL 27 1st

Lakers get Okoro, Allen, Sexton

Jazz get Vando, Kleber, #10

Rockets get Reaves

Don't worry I'm heading off soon lol, my night time here. But Jazz don't want any longterm contracts, have you looked at their roster? Their team is half if not more then half all free agents last time I looked on spotrac, why would they want 3/4 years contract in Vando?. Not only that most of us Laker fans and Lakers themselves (under new managment who knows?) like Vando, this said, this is Vando's first ever offseason where his fully healthy, not willing to give up on Vando just yet - his words not mine.

Edit: realised I said Utah are all FA's, my mistake I was looking at Nets team not Utah's team, drinking is a funny thing.

[zimpy27]

Jabari salary > Okoro, it's illegal
Edit, if done in June, then it works.

I tweaked it to this before draft.

Cavs get Rui, #10, LAL31FRP

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves

Overpay for Allen? Rui and #10 and unprotected 1st?

I'd send Vando/Kleber/#10 for Sexton + LAL 27 and take Sexton and LAL 27 to the Cavs.

Cavs get Rui, JSJ, LAL 27 1st

Lakers get Okoro, Allen, Sexton

Jazz get Vando, Kleber, #10

Rockets get Reaves

Not a fan of Sexton or moving Vando.


Cavs get Rui+#10

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves


Let's just do that and then work out the compensation Cavs want in addition. Between nothing extra to LAL31FRP.

[Realtalk420]

Rockets get Reaves

Lakers get Allen, Jabari

Cavs get Rui, #10, LAL31FRP

I don’t think Rockets would pay this much for Reaves and Cavs are stealing the value here.

[Mavrelous]

I tweaked it to this before draft.

Cavs get Rui, #10, LAL31FRP

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves

Overpay for Allen? Rui and #10 and unprotected 1st?

I'd send Vando/Kleber/#10 for Sexton + LAL 27 and take Sexton and LAL 27 to the Cavs.

Cavs get Rui, JSJ, LAL 27 1st

Lakers get Okoro, Allen, Sexton

Jazz get Vando, Kleber, #10

Rockets get Reaves

Not a fan of Sexton or moving Vando.


Cavs get Rui+#10

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves


Let's just do that and then work out the compensation Cavs want in addition. Between nothing extra to LAL31FRP.

Wanted Sexton next to Luka since his Cavs days, I think he'd be a great fit.

Cavs get Rui+ JSJ + #10

Lakers get Okoro, Allen

Rockets get Reaves

4th team gets Milton for cash...

Is a fair deal...

[Realtalk420]

I tweaked it to this before draft.

Cavs get Rui, #10, LAL31FRP

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves

Overpay for Allen? Rui and #10 and unprotected 1st?

I'd send Vando/Kleber/#10 for Sexton + LAL 27 and take Sexton and LAL 27 to the Cavs.

Cavs get Rui, JSJ, LAL 27 1st

Lakers get Okoro, Allen, Sexton

Jazz get Vando, Kleber, #10

Rockets get Reaves

Not a fan of Sexton or moving Vando.


Cavs get Rui+#10

Lakers get Jabari, Allen

Rockets get Reaves


Let's just do that and then work out the compensation Cavs want in addition. Between nothing extra to LAL31FRP.

Throw in a second or two to Cavs and add Lakers 26 swap (or another one) to Rockets and it’s closer IMO.

[Realtalk420]

Not a fan of Sexton or moving Vando.

Vanderbilt is deadweight on Lakers payroll. He is decent for regular season but unplayable in the playoffs because he is a black hole on offense.

[SlimShady83]

Wanted Sexton next to Luka since his Cavs days, I think he'd be a great fit.

I swear I'm going to bed soon, maybe 1maybe 2 hours night still young haha.

I like Sexton, but what does Sexton do over Reaves? I'd take Reaves over Sexton any day. The league is going big - Kessler Collins but if I"m choosing someone other then Collins = Svi/JC, I heard somewhere that Sexton wants starting role, not sure how Sexton fits next to Luka over Reaves?

[Mavrelous]

Wanted Sexton next to Luka since his Cavs days, I think he'd be a great fit.

I swear I'm going to bed soon, maybe 1maybe 2 hours night still young haha.

I like Sexton, but what does Sexton do over Reaves? I'd take Reaves over Sexton any day. The league is going big - Kessler Collins but if I"m choosing someone other then Collins = Svi/JC, I heard somewhere that Sexton wants starting role, not sure how Sexton fits next to Luka over Reaves?

Reaves is a better player than Sexton, that's why Lakers can afford to downgrade Reaves to Sexton and fill other spots...

[SlimShady83]

Wanted Sexton next to Luka since his Cavs days, I think he'd be a great fit.

I swear I'm going to bed soon, maybe 1maybe 2 hours night still young haha.

I like Sexton, but what does Sexton do over Reaves? I'd take Reaves over Sexton any day. The league is going big - Kessler Collins but if I"m choosing someone other then Collins = Svi/JC, I heard somewhere that Sexton wants starting role, not sure how Sexton fits next to Luka over Reaves?

Reaves is a better player than Sexton, that's why Lakers can afford to downgrade Reaves to Sexton and fill other spots...

If I'm doing that, I damn well want Kessler

[zimpy27]

Not a fan of Sexton or moving Vando.

Vanderbilt is deadweight on Lakers payroll. He is decent for regular season but unplayable in the playoffs because he is a black hole on offense.

Not true. His offense needs help and he had Luka. They just need reps and time together to learn each other.

[Realtalk420]

Not a fan of Sexton or moving Vando.

Vanderbilt is deadweight on Lakers payroll. He is decent for regular season but unplayable in the playoffs because he is a black hole on offense.

Not true. His offense needs help and he had Luka. They just need reps and time together to learn each other.

Disagree. He does not have a reliable 3PT shot and we shouldn’t expect from him to just build one (…in his 8th season). When he was played at C this playoffs he was missing easyyy baskets at the rim. He was frustrating to watch really. And also he is too small to guard other Cs and as said is not a reliable 3pt shooter to be played elsewhere.

[SlimShady83]

Vanderbilt is deadweight on Lakers payroll. He is decent for regular season but unplayable in the playoffs because he is a black hole on offense.

Not true. His offense needs help and he had Luka. They just need reps and time together to learn each other.

Disagree. He does not have a reliable 3PT shot and we shouldn’t expect from him to just build one (…in his 8th season). When he was played at C this playoffs he was missing easyyy baskets at the rim. He was frustrating to watch really. And also he is too small to guard other Cs and as said is not a reliable 3pt shooter to be played elsewhere.

Vando has been injured 'almost every year' his been on the Lakers, he stated this in his "Exit interview" this is his first ever year that Vando will be healthy to work on on his game, wether true or not, i'm not sure this what his stated. Lakers and their fans love Vando, I myself not willling to give up on him just yet and in saying that, what other team really wants his contract of 3/4 years left? not many teams really want longterm contracts IMO unless a tier 1/2 player is involved and I myself don't consider Vando as a tier 1-2 player.

[Apz]

If It's not Kessler/Collins ... Allen my next target, I think you know this Zimpy

Kessler is not nearly as good as Allen. Kessler is not someone I value much. I'd prefer Lively over Kessler.

I know you love Kessler and I don't think he's bad. He's good but he's probably going to be as good as Zubac at peak.

I never said once that Kessler is as good as Allen; Allen is tier 1, Kessler is tier2 .. I would consider Lively as Tier 3. But having Luka he would turn both Kessler/Lively into tier 1 all star centers lols. Look at what Luka did with Hayes in just half a season, if only Hayes would stay out of foul Trouble and that's something Kessler is good at - staying out of foul trouble, so there for taking Kessler over Lively. but happy with either, I just don't see a Dallas/Laker trade that works again unless it involves Reaves and a Reaves/Lively swap doesn't work.

Have allen and lively as t2, kessler tier 3 or 4 tbh. Lively is just a much better player then kessler

[Realtalk420]

Vando has been injured 'almost every year' his been on the Lakers, he stated this in his "Exit interview" this is his first ever year that Vando will be healthy to work on on his game, wether true or not, i'm not sure this what his stated. Lakers and their fans love Vando, I myself not willling to give up on him just yet and in saying that, what other team really wants his contract of 3/4 years left? not many teams really want longterm contracts IMO unless a tier 1/2 player is involved and I myself don't consider Vando as a tier 1-2 player.

Well he is 26 and he mostly is what he is, won’t improve much. I agree that probably nobody wants him, it’s hard to trade him and would need to add value to trade him. But that just proves my point that he is deadweight that real contenders (that Lakers aspire to be) can’t afford. But enough about Vando, we already derailed the topic too much.

[Yenrallik1111]

Reaves is worth Lively or Allen.

I won't trade Lively for Reaves . Look at the playoff series, everyone know how negative Reaves is going to be. Not to mention the 30M per contract Reaves is asking for.

Reaves loves LAL, his in the media saying positive things and wants to be a Laker for life. Would'nt surprise me if this happens especially under new management anything though is possible and me saying this and what i've written above haha. He might even pull a Caruso and say "I want to play for less" and Lakers under new management might accept.

How often do players out right say they do not want to be on their current team in the media? Players will say the right thing but when contract desires are put out there that speaks to their true priorities. If the Lakers aren't willing to meet AR's demands but another team is he will be on the move.