Shams: Jrue for Simons

[tmorgan]

Wonder if Simons ever dons the green, though. Expiring, easier to move, not particularly needed.

[ReggiesKnicks]

This is genuinely puzzling

Portland is a team that drafted 3 straight years in the lottery and as high as #2 with improved growth and development for 3 straight years.

I have been a proponent of them adding pieces, whether it be a big piece who truly puts them in contender status, or trading a non-core piece for an upgrade. In this situation, they trade a non-core piece for a perfect culture fit and player who is going to help win.

Value is fine, Simons isn't a sought-after commodity.

Is Holiday coming off the bench behind Scoot (or sharpe)? if so kind of expensive for a 6th man

Who cares how expensive your 6th man is when 5 of your best 8 players make 42.7 Million next year? I sure don't.

[hugepatsfan]

Odd. I thought Boston would go for more money savings or at least a winning player. Value is ok, direction is dubious for Boston. For Portland, I like having an adult in the room and should be a good bridge player.

Simons I guess can carry the offense while Tatum is out.

Can’t imagine this is it. They’re $19.3M above the 2nd apron now. Have to imagine moves to clear at least that are coming.

I think this was just step one to get some draft assets and turn Jrue into an expiring salary that’s easier to deal down further.

[eminence]

Aww, wish Utah had gotten Jrue, oh well.

[Myth]

I’ve wanted Simons gone for defense for a while, but Jrue’s contract is pretty bad. I’m not convinced this is better than letting Simons walk after a year.

[Godaddycurse]

Portland is a team that drafted 3 straight years in the lottery and as high as #2 with improved growth and development for 3 straight years.

I have been a proponent of them adding pieces, whether it be a big piece who truly puts them in contender status, or trading a non-core piece for an upgrade. In this situation, they trade a non-core piece for a perfect culture fit and player who is going to help win.

Value is fine, Simons isn't a sought-after commodity.

Is Holiday coming off the bench behind Scoot (or sharpe)? if so kind of expensive for a 6th man

Who cares how expensive your 6th man is when 5 of your best 8 players make 42.7 Million next year? I sure don't.

i think its fine for next year but may become a problem if Holiday continues his decline/doesn't bounce back and they need the space for extensions/renegotiations in another year or so from now. No harm in testing it out for now first though

[Tallred23]

For real I think that might be the plan lol

[Godaddycurse]

Aww, wish Utah had gotten Jrue, oh well.

you still can...

[djFan71]

I failed, lol. Came up with 728,237,124.3 scenarios, and this was not one of them.

[hugepatsfan]

Celtics long term payroll is now very clean. Wouldn’t surprise me to see them try to flip expiring Simons or Porzingis for lower current year salary but multi year contracts that actually take on money overall and thus earn them draft compensation rather than having g to give it. The idea being that as those multi year deals wind down they can add draft assets to them to build a new iteration of a contending team around Tatum/Brown/White.

[Texas Chuck]

So we explored a bunch of Jrue trades but definitely don't remember this one.

Boston did better on value than I thought so let me acknowledge that to my Boston brothers and sisters they had a better sense than me.

[tmorgan]

Looks like Portland believes in their second half of the season. Good for them. I like quite a few of their guys.

[zimpy27]

Odd. I thought Boston would go for more money savings or at least a winning player. Value is ok, direction is dubious for Boston. For Portland, I like having an adult in the room and should be a good bridge player.

Simons I guess can carry the offense while Tatum is out.

Can’t imagine this is it. They’re $19.3M above the 2nd apron now. Have to imagine moves to clear at least that are coming.

I think this was just step one to get some draft assets and turn Jrue into an expiring salary that’s easier to deal down further.

Well you now have $57m in salary expiring next offseason.

Could just let it expire and drop out of the tax.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Is Holiday coming off the bench behind Scoot (or sharpe)? if so kind of expensive for a 6th man

Who cares how expensive your 6th man is when 5 of your best 8 players make 42.7 Million next year? I sure don't.

i think its fine for next year but may become a problem if Holiday continues his decline/doesn't bounce back and they need the space for extensions/renegotiations in another year or so from now. No harm in testing it out for now first though

It doesn't really become a problem, but if it does, it means Sharpe is worth a lot of money, Scoot is worth a lot of money, Camara is worth a lot of money, etc.

I can't really think of a better back-court fit and mentor next to Scoot/Sharpe.

And it cost them next to nothing.

[Godaddycurse]

Who cares how expensive your 6th man is when 5 of your best 8 players make 42.7 Million next year? I sure don't.

i think its fine for next year but may become a problem if Holiday continues his decline/doesn't bounce back and they need the space for extensions/renegotiations in another year or so from now. No harm in testing it out for now first though

It doesn't really become a problem, but if it does, it means Sharpe is worth a lot of money, Scoot is worth a lot of money, Camara is worth a lot of money, etc.

I can't really think of a better back-court fit and mentor next to Scoot/Sharpe.

And it cost them next to nothing.

depends if you think simons can fetch a 1st i guess. Portland fans hated the idea of not getting asset for him

[zimpy27]

Celtics long term payroll is now very clean. Wouldn’t surprise me to see them try to flip expiring Simons or Porzingis for lower current year salary but multi year contracts that actually take on money overall and thus earn them draft compensation rather than having g to give it. The idea being that as those multi year deals wind down they can add draft assets to them to build a new iteration of a contending team around Tatum/Brown/White.

Probably hold on to them or wait to see if Nets want to just kick their space down the road to 2026.

Might be after FA but if Nets still have space I could see them being interested in KP.

[babyjax13]

Paying 68 million for Jrue Holiday and Jerami Grant is surely the recipe for success.

[Godaddycurse]

It would be hilarious if Portland trades Jrue back to Milwaukee for more assets

[ReggiesKnicks]

i think its fine for next year but may become a problem if Holiday continues his decline/doesn't bounce back and they need the space for extensions/renegotiations in another year or so from now. No harm in testing it out for now first though

It doesn't really become a problem, but if it does, it means Sharpe is worth a lot of money, Scoot is worth a lot of money, Camara is worth a lot of money, etc.

I can't really think of a better back-court fit and mentor next to Scoot/Sharpe.

And it cost them next to nothing.

depends if you think simons can fetch a 1st i guess. Portland fans hated the idea of not getting asset for him

I think Simons can fetch an overpaid veteran and 2nds

I would be disappointed if my team gave a 1st for Simons. He isn't making your team a better playoff team, so why are you paying a 1st for a player who is providing scoring/spacing in the regular season and nothing else?

[djFan71]

Can't lie. I double-checked that this was the real Shams account when I saw it. Then came here cuz I still didn't quite believe it.

Value seems decent, but I'm not really sure on Simons' value. BOS didn't pay, and got picks, but we haven't cleared much salary yet either. Once Gafford was resigned, BOS move on, lol.