what would u give for diop?????

[HTown_TMac]

Rcokets would love him... Don't know what to give though

[C.lupus]

Only if the mavs want to re-hire nelson and become the Warriors. Some may say that would be a good idea. Mavs would need a big back for Diop, or they are left with Dampier and Brandon Bass at C.

How about McCants and Chris Richard?

[Rand10]

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My question: If a team trades for Diop, is it a five month rental? What future rights are included?

This is his 3rd year with Dallas, so it should be full bird rights.

[Rand10]

Raps/Mavs:

Anthony Parker
Jorge Garbajosa
for
DeSagana Diop
Trenton Hassell
Jose Juan Barea

I love this one.

[MN Die Hard]

Shrink I dont disagree that Diop still raw...he is. But I dont know how fair it is to call McCants a "lottery pick player" when talking about a trade with another lottery pick. I could be misreading your meaning, but to me it sounds like you're implying that McCants has more value because he was a lottery pick, when in reality Diop was too, and in fact he was six picks higher than Rashad. Plus, like I said, I think its safe to say that both guys have underachieved so far; its not like Diop is raw while McCants is a polished SG or something.

[bryant08]

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I love this one.

Turns out my fellow Raps fans don't approve. Would you be willing to add in a top 25 protected 1st in 08?

[shrink]

Shrink I dont disagree that Diop still raw...he is. But I dont know how fair it is to call McCants a "lottery pick player" when talking about a trade with another lottery pick. I could be misreading your meaning, but to me it sounds like you're implying that McCants has more value because he was a lottery pick, when in reality Diop was too, and in fact he was six picks higher than Rashad. Plus, like I said, I think its safe to say that both guys have underachieved so far; its not like Diop is raw while McCants is a polished SG or something.

Two differences for me.

After the microfracture surgery, this is the first real chance to see whether McCants is a boon or a bust. We saw some of him his rookie year, and of course, in college, but really, barely 1 year in the pro's.

Diop is in his seventh season in the NBA. I'm not saying he's a bust, but at what time do you say "why are you still raw?"

More improtantly, why trade McCants, who's locked up another year, for Diop who could bolt after this season? Unless he gets some sort of sign-and-trade deal, he's a rental, and as a rebuilding team, MIN has little reason to rent.

[Rand10]

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Turns out my fellow Raps fans don't approve. Would you be willing to add in a top 25 protected 1st in 08?

Yeah, I'd have no problem with that.

[bryant08]

^Done deal from my POV for the Raps. I think Diop would have a big role in their future, and Hassell isn't bad either.

[catalyst]

How about McCants and Chris Richard?

NO! mavs can do better. Even the Patrick O'b trade is better than your trade

[C.lupus]

NO! mavs can do better. Even the Patrick O'b trade is better than your trade

I wouldn't go that far. I'm at least offering a SG with some potenial and a backup center.

What would you like from the Wolves? We don't have a big to give (that's why I want Diop) but we have Boston's first next year and some good role players (Gomes, Smith, Telfair) as well as McCants. Jaric's contract sucks but he would be a good 2-way guard for you.

[MN Die Hard]

NO! mavs can do better. Even the Patrick O'b trade is better than your trade

That's just ridiculous. POB over McCants and Richard???

Shrink I totally agree on your comments about Diop's free agency. But as for McCants I guess that just depends on how you think he'll turn out. Its true, we've seen a bigger body of work for Diop, and he still hasnt lived up to his potential. I'd still roll the dice, even though Rashad might develop into a nice SG. I think others are higher on him than I am though.

[JES12]

This whole thread is disgusting!

I blame Avery for having to read such filth because he does not let them play. Both Diop and Hassell are worth more than any trade in this thread. They have produced when they do get on the floor. I mean really, Diop still out-produces Ben Wallace per minute.

Common guys, I'll give Anthony parker credit, but Garbajosa? Please, don't make me puke. The rest of the trades are even more awful.

Sneeking in Barea as if he is a "throw-in" is just horid.

[thaAteam]

so what about diop for jr smith straight up and the mavs try to sign pj brown or c webb again. jr smith if he could stay outta trouble would be an excellent fit in dallas as a starting two on a great young core of guys

[JES12]

What about we just keep Diop.

Depth at positions of defense (especially the 1 & 5) are important.

We don't need 5 deep at the 2 with Jones, Smith, Stackhouse, Hassell and Ager. 6 if you count Jet.

Diop fits on our team. Diop is what we needs, especially if Dampier gets into foul trouble. I rather have him as an expiring than any other expiring listed on this tread.

Trading Diop would be a mistake.

[thaAteam]

diop has not been playing lately hes been riding the bench, hes not an all star at best he is a solid backup in the league, jr smith is the better player but due to depth for denver and ai being a staple at the two there is no need for him, the mavs could throw in a swing man a two for reggie evens but to say damp fits thats bs

[thaAteam]

i meant steven hunter and the mavs could throw in a 2nd rounder

[deeney0]

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NO! mavs can do better. Even the Patrick O'b trade is better than your trade

Um, no? I think the Mavs can get more for Diop than Shad, but at least Shad can shoot. POB is nadda.

I don't see why Dallas wouldn't want to keep Diop. Is there a fear he will command more money in the offseason than the Mavs are willing to pay?

[DDansby123]

Ben Wallace for Diop and whatever they have to sign KVH for to make it work.

I'd do the following...

Diop, KVH, Mavs' 2008 1st for Wallace, Bulls' 2008 1st.

I don't think Cuban would take on the salary, though.

[Rand10]

This whole thread is disgusting!

I blame Avery for having to read such filth because he does not let them play. Both Diop and Hassell are worth more than any trade in this thread. They have produced when they do get on the floor. I mean really, Diop still out-produces Ben Wallace per minute.

Common guys, I'll give Anthony parker credit, but Garbajosa? Please, don't make me puke. The rest of the trades are even more awful.

Sneeking in Barea as if he is a "throw-in" is just horid.

He wasn't trying to sneak in Barea. The trade wouldn't work with just Parker/Garbajosa for Diop/Hassell. It's not like Barea has a ton of value anyway. He's a 3rd stringer right now because of Harris and Terry, and that's not going to change any time soon. Hassell is solid but he could only fetch Buckner this offseason. I think you're overrating those 2 a little bit.