Update: Motiejunas now a UFA as Rockets have released his rights

[bondom34]

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[Andre Roberstan]

Basically it looks like Motiejunas got the extra money he wanted while Morey got the extra flexibility he wanted. Guarantee dates are pushed back on the team options.

[Smitty731]

Basically it looks like Motiejunas got the extra money he wanted while Morey got the extra flexibility he wanted. Guarantee dates are pushed back on the team options.

Non-guaranteed years! Not Team Options! Grrrrr

Woj knows better!

[torotoe]

I'm a little sad for motie, but at least he didn't completely get **** over. And Houston seems to have gotten a great deal.

[jbk1234]

I'd be curious to know where the parties originally started with negotiations and what the guarantee date is. Beginning of FA or a couple of weeks after it's started?

[loserX]

I still don't get it. Smitty? HW? Other CBA experts?

How can
- Team X give an offer sheet
- then Team Y says "we'll match it"
- then Team Y says "no we won't, here's a different contract".

That seems like a really cheap way to just screw Team X. Why have offer sheets if the incumbent team can just "match" it and then get rid of it?

[jbk1234]

I still don't get it. Smitty? HW? Other CBA experts?

How can
- Team X give an offer sheet
- then Team Y says "we'll match it"
- then Team Y says "no we won't, here's a different contract".

That seems like a really cheap way to just screw Team X. Why have offer sheets if the incumbent team can just "match" it and then get rid of it?

Maybe the player needs to still sign the matched offer?

[K_chile22]

I still don't get it. Smitty? HW? Other CBA experts?

How can
- Team X give an offer sheet
- then Team Y says "we'll match it"
- then Team Y says "no we won't, here's a different contract".

That seems like a really cheap way to just screw Team X. Why have offer sheets if the incumbent team can just "match" it and then get rid of it?

It's because if the player refuses to report the team the team has the right to void his deal and make him a free agent with not restrictuons for them. The CBA tries to make it as easy as possible for teams to keep their guys. The Rockets did match it was Dmo who decided he didn't want it. I don't see how the third party (Nets) got screwed over? Rockets were fine matching the way it was. Either way they wouldn't have gotten Dmo. No skin off their backs

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[loserX]

I still don't get it. Smitty? HW? Other CBA experts?

How can
- Team X give an offer sheet
- then Team Y says "we'll match it"
- then Team Y says "no we won't, here's a different contract".

That seems like a really cheap way to just screw Team X. Why have offer sheets if the incumbent team can just "match" it and then get rid of it?

It's because if the player refuses to report the team the team has the right to void his deal and make him a free agent with not restrictuons for them. The CBA tries to make it as easy as possible for teams to keep their guys. The Rockets did match it was Dmo who decided he didn't want it.

If this provision ONLY applies to players who refuse to report, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

I don't see how the third party (Nets) got screwed over? Rockets were fine matching the way it was. Either way they wouldn't have gotten Dmo. No skin off their backs

Well, I just saw it as "this is the offer sheet to be matched. If you want to match it, you have to pay him that. You can't just give him a different contract, you already had your chance to do that. Either match or refuse, you don't get to just toss it out and come up with something else."

But as discussed, if there's a special provision that ONLY applies when a player refuses to report, that would be different.

[K_chile22]

I still don't get it. Smitty? HW? Other CBA experts?

How can
- Team X give an offer sheet
- then Team Y says "we'll match it"
- then Team Y says "no we won't, here's a different contract".

That seems like a really cheap way to just screw Team X. Why have offer sheets if the incumbent team can just "match" it and then get rid of it?

It's because if the player refuses to report the team the team has the right to void his deal and make him a free agent with not restrictuons for them. The CBA tries to make it as easy as possible for teams to keep their guys. The Rockets did match it was Dmo who decided he didn't want it.

If this provision ONLY applies to players who refuse to report, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

I don't see how the third party (Nets) got screwed over? Rockets were fine matching the way it was. Either way they wouldn't have gotten Dmo. No skin off their backs

Well, I just saw it as "this is the offer sheet to be matched. If you want to match it, you have to pay him that. You can't just give him a different contract, you already had your chance to do that. Either match or refuse, you don't get to just toss it out and come up with something else."

But as discussed, if there's a special provision that ONLY applies when a player refuses to report, that would be different.

Yeah it's called first right of refusal (I think) and it's for situations like this, when a player fails to report within two days, which Dmo did, the team has the option to just make him a free agent again that can't sign with the Nets

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[Smitty731]

I still don't get it. Smitty? HW? Other CBA experts?

How can
- Team X give an offer sheet
- then Team Y says "we'll match it"
- then Team Y says "no we won't, here's a different contract".

That seems like a really cheap way to just screw Team X. Why have offer sheets if the incumbent team can just "match" it and then get rid of it?

I didn't bother reading the other answers, so I apologize if this is duplicate. Basically here is what happened:

1. Nets signed Motiejunas to the Offer Sheet. Terms have been out there for a long time but the big sticking point was money that was not called out as part of principal terms. Only principal terms of the offer sheet are required to match by the incumbent right's holder (Houston).

2. Rockets match, but only the principal terms. The Rockets now control the Offer Sheet and the Nets are no longer a part of this. This sets Motiejunas and Armstrong off as they wanted the whole deal.

3. Motiejunas refuses to report for his physical, which is necessary before the contract can be signed. Remember, all that has been agreed to at this point is an Offer Sheet. There is no contract as of yet.

4. The Rockets, who now control the Offer Sheet, withdraw that Offer Sheet. Technically, for a short amount of time, Motiejunas was back to being a RFA and could have signed a new Offer Sheet with any team, excluding the Nets.

5. Motiejunas and the Rockets agree to a new contract, which is largely similar to the original deal with some adjustments for bonuses and timing on the guarantee dates for non-guaranteed years.

Bonus: Because Motiejunas signed an entirely new contract and not one that was generated from the Offer Sheet being matched, his trade restrictions work differently now. He would have been ineligible to be dealt for 1 year without his permission had he been a matched RFA. Now, he can be dealt within 3 months like any other FA who signs a new deal. Still not in time for this year's Trade Deadline, but in plenty of time for the NBA Draft or this coming summer.

TL/DR version: Houston matched, both sides agreed to throw away that offer sheet and agreed to new terms.

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[Texas Chuck]

this feels rife for exploiting.

But in the end Houston got exactly what they wanted and Motie either gets paid or gets freedom next year so it works out okay for them. Sucks for the Nets tho. And BJ Armstrong who hasn't had a good week.

[LarsV8]

Some details on the contract

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/10093/donatas-motiejunas-houston-rockets-contract-examined/

[LarsV8]

Also early word from some "insiders" that Motiejunas might have just failed his physical.

[K_chile22]

Also early word from some "insiders" that Motiejunas might have just failed his physical.

What "insiders"? Hard to believe, seeing how he passed a Nets physical and ended last season healthy?

Apparently MDA expected Dmo to be there today and he wasn't though. No idea what management expected though

[HartfordWhalers]

Also early word from some "insiders" that Motiejunas might have just failed his physical.

What "insiders"? Hard to believe, seeing how he passed a Nets physical and ended last season healthy?

Apparently MDA expected Dmo to be there today and he wasn't though. No idea what management expected though

This story is not going away quickly.

As for the Nets physical, I know it was reported that the Nets were 'comfortable with his back' when they signed him, but that isn;t the same as having passed a physical already. Typically physicals are after a player signs, so it would make some sense that he never got to his Nets physical, and would have taken it after Houston failed to match if they had gone that way.

[K_chile22]

Also early word from some "insiders" that Motiejunas might have just failed his physical.

What "insiders"? Hard to believe, seeing how he passed a Nets physical and ended last season healthy?

Apparently MDA expected Dmo to be there today and he wasn't though. No idea what management expected though

This story is not going away quickly.

As for the Nets physical, I know it was reported that the Nets were 'comfortable with his back' when they signed him, but that isn;t the same as having passed a physical already. Typically physicals are after a player signs, so it would make some sense that he never got to his Nets physical, and would have taken it after Houston failed to match if they had gone that way.

Ah. Makes sense

I just want this to end honestly

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