Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 5.0

Post #201 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:28 am

K_chile22 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:So Campazzo/Bol(to 3rd team) for Schroder feels like a clear basis for a deal that should happen. But Denver can only trade their 24 2nd(and half of their 23 2nd but the half unlikely to convey). And is that enough?
Close-ish!

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enzino · Post #202 » by **enzino** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:57 pm

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9pf5dv4

Boston Celtics out: Al Horford, R. Williams, D. Schroder, BOS 22 FRP, BOS 24 FRP, BOS 26 FRP, 2 future BOS SRP
Boston Celtics in: Buddy Hield, D. Sabonis

Indiana Pacers out: D. Sabonis
Indiana Pacers in: M. Bagley, D. Schroder, BOS 22 FRP, BOS 24 FRP, BOS 26 FRP, TOR 22 FRP, TOR 24 FRP (protected?)

Toronto Raptors out: C. Boucher, TOR 22 FRP, TOR 24 FRP (protected?)
Toronto Raptors in: R. Williams,

Sacramento Kings out: Buddy Hield, M. Bagley
Sacramento Kings in: Al Horford, C. Boucher, 2 future BOS SRP

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Post #203 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:14 pm

enzino wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9pf5dv4

Boston Celtics out: Al Horford, R. Williams, D. Schroder, BOS 22 FRP, BOS 24 FRP, BOS 26 FRP, 2 future BOS SRP
Boston Celtics in: Buddy Hield, D. Sabonis

Indiana Pacers out: D. Sabonis
Indiana Pacers in: M. Bagley, D. Schroder, BOS 22 FRP, BOS 24 FRP, BOS 26 FRP, TOR 22 FRP, TOR 24 FRP (protected?)

Toronto Raptors out: C. Boucher, TOR 22 FRP, TOR 24 FRP (protected?)
Toronto Raptors in: R. Williams,

Sacramento Kings out: Buddy Hield, M. Bagley
Sacramento Kings in: Al Horford, C. Boucher, 2 future BOS SRP

I love Sabonis but he isn't worth 5 FRPs...this is crazy.

Godaddycurse · Post #204 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:17 pm

enzino wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9pf5dv4

Boston Celtics out: Al Horford, R. Williams, D. Schroder, BOS 22 FRP, BOS 24 FRP, BOS 26 FRP, 2 future BOS SRP
Boston Celtics in: Buddy Hield, D. Sabonis

Indiana Pacers out: D. Sabonis
Indiana Pacers in: M. Bagley, D. Schroder, BOS 22 FRP, BOS 24 FRP, BOS 26 FRP, TOR 22 FRP, TOR 24 FRP (protected?)

Toronto Raptors out: C. Boucher, TOR 22 FRP, TOR 24 FRP (protected?)
Toronto Raptors in: R. Williams,

Sacramento Kings out: Buddy Hield, M. Bagley
Sacramento Kings in: Al Horford, C. Boucher, 2 future BOS SRP

Dont think RWIII is worth 2 1sts with his injury history.

Troubadour · Post #205 » by **Troubadour** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:05 pm

What player on a rookie deal could be traded for Malachi Flynn? Would Flynn for Usman Garuba be plausible? What might Dallas add to Frank Ntilikina for Malachi Flynn?

Unrelated, what's going on with Rui Hachimura these days?

K_chile22 · Post #206 » by **K_chile22** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:10 pm

Troubadour wrote:What player on a rookie deal could be traded for Malachi Flynn? Would Flynn for Usman Garuba be plausible? What might Dallas add to Frank Ntilikina for Malachi Flynn?

Unrelated, what's going on with Rui Hachimura these days?

Maybe on Garuba but only because he's been disappointing this far. Only 19 ofc so a ton of time to turn it around. Doubt the rockets punt on him for a 4 year older player already but I wouldn't say it's impossible. Think he put on too much weight in preparation for the NBA, a lot less fluid than he looked even in the Olympics.
I was high on Garuba (when they traded up for Sengun I was hoping they were picking Garuba) but this far it's looked clunky

daoneandonly · Post #207 » by **daoneandonly** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:12 pm

Troubadour wrote:What player on a rookie deal could be traded for Malachi Flynn? Would Flynn for Usman Garuba be plausible? What might Dallas add to Frank Ntilikina for Malachi Flynn?

Unrelated, what's going on with Rui Hachimura these days?

Why would Dallas have to add anything to that? Frank has a lot of flaws but has a proven defensive skill on a minimum deal, Flynn hasn't shown a thing.

Troubadour · Post #208 » by **Troubadour** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:21 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:What player on a rookie deal could be traded for Malachi Flynn? Would Flynn for Usman Garuba be plausible? What might Dallas add to Frank Ntilikina for Malachi Flynn?

Unrelated, what's going on with Rui Hachimura these days?
Maybe on Garuba but only because he's been disappointing this far. Only 19 ofc so a ton of time to turn it around. Doubt the rockets punt on him for a 4 year older player already but I wouldn't say it's impossible. Think he put on too much weight in preparation for the NBA, a lot less fluid than he looked even in the Olympics.
I was high on Garuba (when they traded up for Sengun I was hoping they were picking Garuba) but this far it's looked clunky

Interesting. I'm still high on him as a prospect and I think he'd fit really well with what the Raptors are trying to put together. Maybe this is an under the radar surprise trade!

Troubadour · Post #209 » by **Troubadour** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:22 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Troubadour wrote:What player on a rookie deal could be traded for Malachi Flynn? Would Flynn for Usman Garuba be plausible? What might Dallas add to Frank Ntilikina for Malachi Flynn?

Unrelated, what's going on with Rui Hachimura these days?

Why would Dallas have to add anything to that? Frank has a lot of flaws but has a proven defensive skill on a minimum deal, Flynn hasn't shown a thing.

Because Jalen Brunson is about to leave, Malachi has shown some things (he was rookie of the month last April) and he just can't get on the floor because he's tiny. Fred's the only small player allowed to play for the Raptors.

Post #210 » by **Duffman100** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:26 pm

Troubadour wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Troubadour wrote:What player on a rookie deal could be traded for Malachi Flynn? Would Flynn for Usman Garuba be plausible? What might Dallas add to Frank Ntilikina for Malachi Flynn?

Unrelated, what's going on with Rui Hachimura these days?

Why would Dallas have to add anything to that? Frank has a lot of flaws but has a proven defensive skill on a minimum deal, Flynn hasn't shown a thing.

Because Jalen Brunson is about to leave, Malachi has shown some things (he was rookie of the month last April) and he just can't get on the floor because he's tiny. Fred's the only small player allowed to play for the Raptors.

Malachi is slashing 35/27/51. That's ... pretty ****ing bad. I can't see any team willing to give up anything and risk it for him.

Troubadour · Post #211 » by **Troubadour** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:38 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Why would Dallas have to add anything to that? Frank has a lot of flaws but has a proven defensive skill on a minimum deal, Flynn hasn't shown a thing.

Because Jalen Brunson is about to leave, Malachi has shown some things (he was rookie of the month last April) and he just can't get on the floor because he's tiny. Fred's the only small player allowed to play for the Raptors.

Malachi is slashing 35/27/51. That's ... pretty ****ing bad. I can't see any team willing to give up anything and risk it for him.

Last season was better for him. I think he prefers temperate or even humid climates found in Texas and Florida.

Post #212 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:39 pm

I don't think Brunson leaving is foregone. He might of course but I expect Dallas to make a competitive offer to keep him.

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Post #213 » by **Duffman100** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:42 pm

Troubadour wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:
Because Jalen Brunson is about to leave, Malachi has shown some things (he was rookie of the month last April) and he just can't get on the floor because he's tiny. Fred's the only small player allowed to play for the Raptors.

Malachi is slashing 35/27/51. That's ... pretty ****ing bad. I can't see any team willing to give up anything and risk it for him.

Last season was better for him. I think he prefers temperate or even humid climates found in Texas and Florida.

This feels like a Bargnani excuse...

Troubadour · Post #214 » by **Troubadour** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:44 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Malachi is slashing 35/27/51. That's ... pretty ****ing bad. I can't see any team willing to give up anything and risk it for him.

Last season was better for him. I think he prefers temperate or even humid climates found in Texas and Florida.

This feels like a Bargnani excuse...

Has he had Lasik yet? That seemed to help Rudy

K_chile22 · Post #215 » by **K_chile22** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:49 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Why would Dallas have to add anything to that? Frank has a lot of flaws but has a proven defensive skill on a minimum deal, Flynn hasn't shown a thing.

Because Jalen Brunson is about to leave, Malachi has shown some things (he was rookie of the month last April) and he just can't get on the floor because he's tiny. Fred's the only small player allowed to play for the Raptors.

Malachi is slashing 35/27/51. That's ... pretty ****ing bad. I can't see any team willing to give up anything and risk it for him.

Oof I didn't know he looked that bad, just thought he had fallen behind in the rotation

LAL1947 · Post #216 » by **LAL1947** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Malaichi Flynn is the new Chris Boucher IMO. I keep seeing him pop up in trade discussions as if he's a valuable commodity that teams should want (when he's not), just like Boucher kept popping up all over the place in the summer. It's like playing whack-a-mole with these two, lol.

Post #217 » by **Duffman100** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:56 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:
Because Jalen Brunson is about to leave, Malachi has shown some things (he was rookie of the month last April) and he just can't get on the floor because he's tiny. Fred's the only small player allowed to play for the Raptors.

Malachi is slashing 35/27/51. That's ... pretty ****ing bad. I can't see any team willing to give up anything and risk it for him.
Oof I didn't know he looked that bad, just thought he had fallen behind in the rotation

It's tough because he really only gets random spot minutes.

But the clear issue to me is his shot. His defense is solid, his intangibles are there (deflections, passing, rotations etc).

His shot just ... got worse somehow.

Post #218 » by **Duffman100** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:58 pm

LAL1947 wrote:Malaichi Flynn is the new Chris Boucher IMO. I keep seeing him pop up in trade discussions as if he's a valuable commodity that teams should want (when he's not), just like Boucher kept popping up all over the place in the summer. It's like playing whack-a-mole with these two, lol.

Boucher is a valuable commodity though. Expiring yes, but valuable.

And energy big who can shoot a bit, block shots, etc.

Slow start, but his last 20 games have been solid.

Post #219 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:16 pm

Flynn types are the easiest to find in the NBA. I don't see anyone giving value for him.

Post #220 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:20 pm

Troubadour wrote:What player on a rookie deal could be traded for Malachi Flynn? Would Flynn for Usman Garuba be plausible? What might Dallas add to Frank Ntilikina for Malachi Flynn?

Unrelated, what's going on with Rui Hachimura these days?

Flynn was drafted 29th and will be down 2 years on his rookie contract, while shooting terribly so far in his career.

I think he’s maybe netting a top 45 protected 2nd at this point. He’s mostly salary filler t this moment. It would behoove Toronto to simply keep him and hope they did see something in drafting him they can develop.